The Fast and The Furious * SPOILER * Don't Read If You Haven't Seen It Yet

jimberg · 06-24-2001, 07:30 PM

I saw it last night in downtown Chicago. $8.75 a ticket. There wasn't a bit about it that I liked. I wouldn't have paid to see it in a dollar theater. The premise behind the plot was unbelievable. This is where the spoiler begins. Please feel free to discuss the plot within this thread.

I'm sorry, but 3 ricers couldn't possibly hound a semi like they did. Do people really believe that if some people were shooting cables into the truck that the truck would just proceed at a constant rate without at all trying to run the little gnat-mobiles off the road? Do they really believe that a semi couldn't run the gnat-mobiles off the road?

The few races that they had were ridiculous. They did the races like they were riding horses. The nitrous was used like the jockey beating his horse toward the end for a little extra boost.

The first race had a $2000 entry fee, but our hero decides to put up the pink slip for his $80,000 car. I laughed out loud when I saw the computer stuff in his car. Sheesh. I wonder how much extra power he got with that scoop to nowhere just above his windshield.

I loved how the cops buzzed in like it was illegal to be a ricer. While that premise is agreeable to me, I thought it just made the movie seem even more unrealistic.

The leader of the Chinese gang supposedly had $100K under his hood. He should have a 6 second car for that kind of money.

I could go on and on, but I won't take the time. The movie was a great disappointment and I didn't even have high expectations for it.

The preview on HBO I saw was misleading. They did have speedos and rear view mirrors.

Tod · 06-24-2001, 08:54 PM

i saw the movie last night as well, and i had to buy tickets at 3:00pm for a 7:10 movie just to make sure i got a stupid ticket. anyway, it took about 15 mins for me to get annoyed with the way those wind-up toys sounded. that was about the only realistic thing in the movie.

as far as the movie itself, i'll give credit to the lead actors who weren't all bad. Even though he resorted to being in this movie, Vin Diesel is still a favorite actor of mine and he did a good job i thought. the rest of them eh, so-so. even though the races and chases were unrealistic, they were entertaining. and yea really, like the guy could mess with his laptop at 120mph. and the way the NOS flowed, it seemed like it was an endless supply. i have no idea if it is possible, but can those little things actually go 120-140mph? i seriously have no clue.

and back to the way those things sounded, i could hardly breath until the mad 900hp beast at the end was cranked up. THAT is true power right there. and one more thing, do ricers drive everywhere in packs like they did in the movie? lol

besides gone in 60 seconds, there MUST be a movie with nothing but high-powered muscle-cars kicking asphalt. THAT would be a must see.

oh and on the night of the opening (friday night), i was on my way home and all of a sudden i see a pack of oversized micro-machines with neon lights heading the opposite way. there were at LEAST 20-25 of them. so on the way past them i put the clutch in and revved it at about 5k until i was past them. no point to it really but it was fun hanging out the window, laughing and pointing at the whole group. lol. pointless, but fun nonetheless.

out of 10, i rate this movie at about a 6 in the entertainment area. as far as realism, about a 2. and the acting, about a 6. that's a grand total of 14 out of 30. compared to the 25 i give gone in 60 seconds.

06-24-2001, 09:43 PM

As anyone heard of a willing suspension of disbelief. It was a movie please don't forget that. I have had my *** handed to me by a few imports, because I look at it as a car is a car. I mean sure it takes twice as much money to make 350 horsepower in a 4 banger than in a 5.0. But it is worth it to make people who think they have a superior car scrath their heads wodering how they got beat. But anyway I hade fun running a few Hondas after the show with the 1000 horsepower exhausts and 5 horsepower a piece sticker. Those are what I don't like people who think everything they do gives them horsepower (i.e. stickers).

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Fox Body · 06-24-2001, 10:13 PM

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Originally posted by jimberg:
...I'm sorry, but 3 ricers couldn't possibly hound a semi like they did. Do people really believe that if some people were shooting cables into the truck that the truck would just proceed at a constant rate without at all trying to run the little gnat-mobiles off the road? Do they really believe that a semi couldn't run the gnat-mobiles off the road?

The few races that they had were ridiculous. They did the races like they were riding horses. The nitrous was used like the jockey beating his horse toward the end for a little extra boost.

The first race had a $2000 entry fee, but our hero decides to put up the pink slip for his $80,000 car. I laughed out loud when I saw the computer stuff in his car. Sheesh. I wonder how much extra power he got with that scoop to nowhere just above his windshield....

The leader of the Chinese gang supposedly had $100K under his hood. He should have a 6 second car for that kind of money.

I could go on and on....

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Originally posted by Tod:
as far as the movie itself, i'll give credit to the lead actors who weren't all bad.... even though the races and chases were unrealistic, they were entertaining. and yea really, like the guy could mess with his laptop at 120mph. and the way the NOS flowed, it seemed like it was an endless supply....

and back to the way those things sounded, i could hardly breath until the mad 900hp beast at the end was cranked up....

besides gone in 60 seconds, there MUST be a movie with nothing but high-powered muscle-cars kicking asphalt. THAT would be a must see.

out of 10, i rate this movie at about a 6 in the entertainment area. as far as realism, about a 2. and the acting, about a 6. that's a grand total of 14 out of 30. compared to the 25 i give gone in 60 seconds.

Great reviews guys. MANY of your sentiments I share to EXACTLY. You've saved me much typing time.

For a movie, I'd say it was okay. It'd would've been alot better though if I knew next to nothing about cars.

The first race between the four cars (the star, Diesel, the guy playing Gran Tourismo, aned the black dude), how far were they racing?????? I dunno, it just seems that their 1/4 mile was longer than the one I usually run. Maybe they were running a 2 or 3 mile race. But for cars going 130+ mph, I'd think the race wouldn't last so long, and there wouldn't be no time for checking your email on the computer either...

How does a Supra with street tires (or drag radials) even come close to keeping up with (on the launch) a car on slicks that just pulled off doing a high flying wheelie????? The Dodge just had WAY more traction. Simple.

Also, not to say that only Asians drive imports, but I have many Asian friends that are in the import scene, so why were the only Asians I saw, part of that broke down little mofia??? What are they saying there?

Favorite parts: The guy playing Gran Tourismo (I busted out laughing). The race between the Ferrari and the Supra. When dude lost the race in his Jetta, and took off

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Favorite import in the movie: Skyline GT-R

And like jimberg said already, there's alot more, but I have other things to do.

All in all, being that it was a MOVIE and that there are always elements or fiction if most movies, I liked The Fast and The Furious, but would have been just fine with a movie rental. IMO, it started off kinda weak, but as the plot thickened, I was able to get more into it.

Using Tod's scale, out of 10,
Entertainment = 8
Realism = 4
Acting = 7 (mostly b/c of Vin).
Total score = 19 out of 30

Hey, think about this. Why were there no races where some import annihilated a Mustang, Camaro or Viper??? You woulda think they'd love to put that in there......

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84_GT350 · 06-25-2001, 03:03 AM

Hey Fox Body:

Not true about the asians. What about all those slutty looking asian chicks at the street races? Hehe. You don't see too many asian whores these days.

As for the movie as a whole...it was decent. I just kept imagining those cars as domestics instead of imports. And that computer thing...WTF? I'm sure that 3D bar graph added some horsepower. I liked how Vin Diesel's nitrous was under his passenger seat cushion. How trick would that be?

And I know it's a movie...but there's no way those cars are hitting 160 EVER. My brother has an unmodified Talon (AWD, turbo) which isn't much different from an Eclipse. On the highway the thing turns almost 5000rpm in 5th gear at 100mph. They just aren't geared for top speed...they're geared for off-the-line quickness.

But hey..it's a movie and a pretty decent one at that so more power to them. But I'll be hearing the sounds of that Charger in my dreams tonight.

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Mach 1 · 06-25-2001, 07:40 AM

I dont think this movie claimed to be a true story or real to life.

If thats what you wanted, you were stupid to spend your money on this movie.

If you wanted entertainment factor, money well spent.

I enjoyed it myself, and would recommend it.

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jimberg · 06-25-2001, 09:27 AM

I wouldn't have gone at all if I was unwilling to suspend disbelief. There were few races, all of which were unexciting ( except for the race to the train. All I could think of was The Vanishing Point until I saw Brian was going for it, too. ), the love story went nowhere, and the villain was just slapped into the story to distract us from thinking that it was Vin Diesel that was hijacking the trucks.

I'm sorry, but even after totally suspending disbelief, the story would still be terrible.

dinomite · 06-25-2001, 11:00 AM

My favorite part was when the cops came in in the opening scene at the huge street race. Here you have a bunch of sub 2000 pound rice-mobiles, and cops driving up in 4500 crown vics. If i were a cop, i wouldn't have been weaving like they were, i would play pinball.

Also, if those idiots would drop the spoiler and the 200lb sound system, they would gain half a sec in the quarter on they're supposedly 10 sec cars. The thing is, that they never actually had times on the cars, never went to a real track......

I think the movie is somewhat truthful in that it takes a ricer 80,000 dollars to get into the tens; and thats using nitrous. You could easily get any stang into the 10s, including the cost of the car, for half that or less.

SmokeyDP · 06-25-2001, 11:03 AM

Maybe the movie wasn't relistic and maybe the plot wasn't perfect, but you know what? I thought it was an excellent racing movie. So what if it was about imports, it would have been better if it was about american muscle, but u know what. It was a good movie and I thought it was money well spent. If it was a bad movie, it wouldn't have all these people pumped up to race afterwards, that shows that the movie had a big effect on the people that saw it, because...get this...IT WAS A GOOD MOVIE!

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1BAD89 · 06-25-2001, 03:09 PM

Yeah at least it had cars racing in it. I mean not to many racing movies around, it would have been really really cool though if they had mustangs,camaro's etc..... instead of hondas, overall I thought it was a good movie. Just think if we got everyone off this site and made our own movie. Now that would be bad azz. =P

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06-25-2001, 04:39 PM

Below was posted on another message thread as well:

Wow i wish i had those cars:
they all had at least 7+ speed transmissions (me and a friend counted the upshifts, some totalled more than 10!), the second speeding scene in the movie i heard 7 shifts.
they all had turbo noises even the cars without turbos
That "9 second muscle car" stayed even with a "10 second" supra that had stiff road racing suspension
The cars would keep on going even with catastrophic engine failures, and you can still race them without them sputtering and dying.
The civic going at least 60 trying to keep up with the semi pulls off the road and stops within like a 30 foot area. Jesus, those are good brakes, 60 to 0 in 1 second, very nice.
The real funny stuff came after the movie when high schoolers in their "hot rod" primered civics and stock, well anything, did lots of wheel spinning in the rain because with those 100 horsepower HOT ROD engines how can you not keep it from spinning. *note that it's a RACING movie and as i and my friends knew in advance cops would patrol the area to watch for idiots peeling out and driving like asses.
With all those wings and ground effects i expected some of them to fly around like the delorian in back to the future (2 or 3...or whatever).
I think the movie sucked, so did the plot, but whatever that musclecar was, it was pretty cool looking at least (for the 5 minutes they drove a real car before destroying it). I thought the head gang guy's RX7 (i think) was pretty decent looking, and there was like 1 or 2 other cars (i think there was a fairly cool looking Skyline in there as well). Whatever, this is just my worthless opinion and i'm sure more people liked the rice than not that went to see the movie, but i'm biased.

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jimberg · 06-25-2001, 05:17 PM

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The civic going at least 60 trying to keep up with the semi pulls off the road and stops within like a 30 foot area. Jesus, those are good brakes, 60 to 0 in 1 second, very nice.

What really impressed me was that Brian could still hold on during that impressive braking manuever. Oh, and they did it on gravel.

Am I the only one that noticed that one of Vin Diesel's "teammates" drove a riced out Mustang? Or was I just imagining things?

Oh, as for the rice. If you replaced every car with good old American muscle and got rid of all the techno-gadgets and technical errors, I still would have hated the movie. The race scenes were dull and uninspiring. A better movie is called "Catch Me If You Can".

SmokeyDP, people were ready to race before they even saw the movie. That's evident with the threads on this site. I would hardly jump to the conclusion that the movie pumped people up to race. It was more of an excuse for people who like racing to meet in one place.

1BAD89 has a pretty good idea. Why don't we actually try to write a good street racing movie with a good plot and lots of action? If we get it done while the topic is still hot, we could make some dough.

dinomite · 06-25-2001, 05:27 PM

i could barely tell what a lot of the cars were cause of the body kits and stickers. i'm pretty sure the vast majority of hte cars in the movie were civics. NOS must of had a stake in this movie. good quote (not form movie) "honda makes many good cars, a number of them are engineering marvels, but none of them are named 'civic'"
"a ricer is just a dyslexic trying to build a sleeper"

byrnech · 06-25-2001, 06:28 PM

I thought the movie was CRAP. I have had a simular idea, as i'm sure most everyone else has. I was thinking more of real street race scene like I used to have back in Houston, Tx. My movie would be more like a street racing DAZED AND CONFUSED meets AMERICAN GRAFFITI set in a modern day environment. A feel good comedy kind of thing. Not so much a plot but something people can relate to. Ricers relate to F&F B/C they think thier cars are as fast as the movie makes them seem. just my 2 pesos on it.

Mustang92 · 06-27-2001, 08:29 AM

Granted they were mostly imports but still a good movie in my book, extertainment wise and to be honest that's all that matters. It wasn't a documentary.

At least they used fast imports for most of their race scenes (ie...supra, RX-7, Eclipse) instead of a Civic SI with an air filter.

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Capri306 · 06-27-2001, 09:39 AM

It could've been a LOT better movie. I give it an overall 6 out of 10. Good points were some of the action sequences (liked the SWAT team busting into that japanese dude's house and holding a knee to his throat), bad points were the number of subplots (OH GOD!) and how they danced around the fact all of the cars were rice. Not one American car in there except that ol' Dodge. Whoever mentioned that NOS had a hold on the movie is absolutely right. Probably trying to get the message to ricers that they can make their cars a little faster with nitrous. Most ricers probably didn't even know that. Now that the message is out ya think we should run for cover?!?

Those races were drawn out for the purpose of making the movie, plain & simple. A 15+ second race (which I'm sure it would've been) wouldn't be cool for a movie. Checking his email at 140, hahaha.

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Fox Body · 06-27-2001, 11:47 AM

Oh yeah, I forgot about the SWAT raiding the house, that was another fav part of mine.

I think those guys were inhaling N2O the way they talked about it.

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Dark_5.0 · 06-27-2001, 12:13 PM

OK guys here is my take on the whole thing.

Atleast they did use fast imports for the race scenes twin turbos with NOS on a Supra.

And an RX7 that was equally hopped up.

Please dont give me this crap about how the speed of those cars was unrealitic cause I think that a supra wich is fast just how it comes with twin turbos and NOS would easily run a 10 in the 1/4.

But the race scenes sucked *** . they must of been racing like 10 miles or something. It seemed like they were going 140mph for like 20 seconds or so.

I would not consider anyone that has a Supra
RX7 or a Skyline a ricer cause at least these guys forked out the cash for a real sports car and not a civic

Overall I liked the movie maybe I liked it more than most of you cause I like imports
like supras and Skylines and 300z's and so forth.

Entertainment=9
Realism=3
Acting=9

So I give the movie 21 out of a possible 30.

I can pretty much get into any movie dealing with cars I bought Gone in 60 seconds just as soon as it came out on dvd and I will buy the fast and the furious as well cause I thought it was entertaining

Power · 06-27-2001, 01:35 PM

Unfortunately, the lines between rice and non-rice are blurred somewhat. I think we can all agree that rice is not a make or model of car, but rather a state of mind. We have all seen the infamous 'stang that was riced out with stickers and body mods, or another famous look with the nice gold daytons and hydro's.

At the same time we have seen imports which display no stickers and are very nicely modified to provide maximum power.

But it is unfortunate that hollywood chose to make an american movie with next to nothing about american cars. But the reason behind that was the audience. 18-25 year olds prefer imports by a large margin. So hollywood goes by audience demand.

Stang Runner · 06-27-2001, 08:47 PM

18-25 year olds prefer imports by a large margin I am in that age and hate Imports

and the way the NOS flowed, it seemed like it was an endless supply.... That guy had 2 30LBS tanks!!!!!!

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06-24-2001, 07:30 PM	#1
jimberg Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Rogers, MN Posts: 2,089	*The Fast and The Furious SPOILER * Don't Read If You Haven't Seen It Yet I saw it last night in downtown Chicago. $8.75 a ticket. There wasn't a bit about it that I liked. I wouldn't have paid to see it in a dollar theater. The premise behind the plot was unbelievable. This is where the spoiler begins. Please feel free to discuss the plot within this thread.** I'm sorry, but 3 ricers couldn't possibly hound a semi like they did. Do people really believe that if some people were shooting cables into the truck that the truck would just proceed at a constant rate without at all trying to run the little gnat-mobiles off the road? Do they really believe that a semi couldn't run the gnat-mobiles off the road? The few races that they had were ridiculous. They did the races like they were riding horses. The nitrous was used like the jockey beating his horse toward the end for a little extra boost. The first race had a $2000 entry fee, but our hero decides to put up the pink slip for his $80,000 car. I laughed out loud when I saw the computer stuff in his car. Sheesh. I wonder how much extra power he got with that scoop to nowhere just above his windshield. I loved how the cops buzzed in like it was illegal to be a ricer. While that premise is agreeable to me, I thought it just made the movie seem even more unrealistic. The leader of the Chinese gang supposedly had $100K under his hood. He should have a 6 second car for that kind of money. I could go on and on, but I won't take the time. The movie was a great disappointment and I didn't even have high expectations for it. The preview on HBO I saw was misleading. They did have speedos and rear view mirrors.

06-24-2001, 08:54 PM	#2
Tod Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: just outside of Slowville Posts: 299	i saw the movie last night as well, and i had to buy tickets at 3:00pm for a 7:10 movie just to make sure i got a stupid ticket. anyway, it took about 15 mins for me to get annoyed with the way those wind-up toys sounded. that was about the only realistic thing in the movie. as far as the movie itself, i'll give credit to the lead actors who weren't all bad. Even though he resorted to being in this movie, Vin Diesel is still a favorite actor of mine and he did a good job i thought. the rest of them eh, so-so. even though the races and chases were unrealistic, they were entertaining. and yea really, like the guy could mess with his laptop at 120mph. and the way the NOS flowed, it seemed like it was an endless supply. i have no idea if it is possible, but can those little things actually go 120-140mph? i seriously have no clue. and back to the way those things sounded, i could hardly breath until the mad 900hp beast at the end was cranked up. THAT is true power right there. and one more thing, do ricers drive everywhere in packs like they did in the movie? lol besides gone in 60 seconds, there MUST be a movie with nothing but high-powered muscle-cars kicking asphalt. THAT would be a must see. oh and on the night of the opening (friday night), i was on my way home and all of a sudden i see a pack of oversized micro-machines with neon lights heading the opposite way. there were at LEAST 20-25 of them. so on the way past them i put the clutch in and revved it at about 5k until i was past them. no point to it really but it was fun hanging out the window, laughing and pointing at the whole group. lol. pointless, but fun nonetheless. out of 10, i rate this movie at about a 6 in the entertainment area. as far as realism, about a 2. and the acting, about a 6. that's a grand total of 14 out of 30. compared to the 25 i give gone in 60 seconds.

06-24-2001, 09:43 PM	#3
1BadMoFo5.0 Guest Posts: n/a	As anyone heard of a willing suspension of disbelief. It was a movie please don't forget that. I have had my *** handed to me by a few imports, because I look at it as a car is a car. I mean sure it takes twice as much money to make 350 horsepower in a 4 banger than in a 5.0. But it is worth it to make people who think they have a superior car scrath their heads wodering how they got beat. But anyway I hade fun running a few Hondas after the show with the 1000 horsepower exhausts and 5 horsepower a piece sticker. Those are what I don't like people who think everything they do gives them horsepower (i.e. stickers). ------------------ Bia Bia!!! 89' 5.0 GT Convertible Mustang and a 69' Mustang Mach 1 Fastback. If you want to know the rest, buy the rights. AOL name: Woodnutz351

06-25-2001, 03:03 AM	#5
84_GT350 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: Overland Park, KS, USA Posts: 1,631	Hey Fox Body: Not true about the asians. What about all those slutty looking asian chicks at the street races? Hehe. You don't see too many asian whores these days. As for the movie as a whole...it was decent. I just kept imagining those cars as domestics instead of imports. And that computer thing...WTF? I'm sure that 3D bar graph added some horsepower. I liked how Vin Diesel's nitrous was under his passenger seat cushion. How trick would that be? And I know it's a movie...but there's no way those cars are hitting 160 EVER. My brother has an unmodified Talon (AWD, turbo) which isn't much different from an Eclipse. On the highway the thing turns almost 5000rpm in 5th gear at 100mph. They just aren't geared for top speed...they're geared for off-the-line quickness. But hey..it's a movie and a pretty decent one at that so more power to them. But I'll be hearing the sounds of that Charger in my dreams tonight. ------------------ 1984 1/2 GT350 (#842 Hatchback w/ T-tops), 302HO, Comp cams Xtreme Energy cam, Carter 625cfm carb, Weiand Stealth intake, MSD distributor, MSD coil, FMS 9mm wires, 1 5/8" MAC unequal shorties, 2 1/2" MAC Prochamber H-pipe, Flowmaster 2 chambers, KYBs, 16"x8" 4 lug Cobra Rs, Falken 245/45ZR16s

06-25-2001, 07:40 AM	#6
Mach 1 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,866	I dont think this movie claimed to be a true story or real to life. If thats what you wanted, you were stupid to spend your money on this movie. If you wanted entertainment factor, money well spent. I enjoyed it myself, and would recommend it. ------------------ 1993 GT/AOD '93 Mustang GT

06-25-2001, 09:27 AM	#7
jimberg Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Rogers, MN Posts: 2,089	I wouldn't have gone at all if I was unwilling to suspend disbelief. There were few races, all of which were unexciting ( except for the race to the train. All I could think of was The Vanishing Point until I saw Brian was going for it, too. ), the love story went nowhere, and the villain was just slapped into the story to distract us from thinking that it was Vin Diesel that was hijacking the trucks. I'm sorry, but even after totally suspending disbelief, the story would still be terrible.

06-25-2001, 11:00 AM	#8
dinomite The Dude Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 1,262	My favorite part was when the cops came in in the opening scene at the huge street race. Here you have a bunch of sub 2000 pound rice-mobiles, and cops driving up in 4500 crown vics. If i were a cop, i wouldn't have been weaving like they were, i would play pinball. Also, if those idiots would drop the spoiler and the 200lb sound system, they would gain half a sec in the quarter on they're supposedly 10 sec cars. The thing is, that they never actually had times on the cars, never went to a real track...... I think the movie is somewhat truthful in that it takes a ricer 80,000 dollars to get into the tens; and thats using nitrous. You could easily get any stang into the 10s, including the cost of the car, for half that or less.

06-25-2001, 11:03 AM	#9
SmokeyDP Registered Member Join Date: Jun 1999 Location: Middlesex, NJ Posts: 212	Maybe the movie wasn't relistic and maybe the plot wasn't perfect, but you know what? I thought it was an excellent racing movie. So what if it was about imports, it would have been better if it was about american muscle, but u know what. It was a good movie and I thought it was money well spent. If it was a bad movie, it wouldn't have all these people pumped up to race afterwards, that shows that the movie had a big effect on the people that saw it, because...get this...IT WAS A GOOD MOVIE! Scott ------------------ 1992 GT 5.0L Convertible BBK Shorties, Flowmasters, Super Chip, Mass Air, Under Drive Pullies, Hurst Shifter, Duck Tape AIM: SmokeyDP

06-25-2001, 03:09 PM	#10
1BAD89 Tubbed and Juiced Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma Posts: 1,861	Yeah at least it had cars racing in it. I mean not to many racing movies around, it would have been really really cool though if they had mustangs,camaro's etc..... instead of hondas, overall I thought it was a good movie. Just think if we got everyone off this site and made our own movie. Now that would be bad azz. =P ------------------ 3:55's,BBK Off-Road H-pipe,BBK jet-hot coated equal length shorty headers,BBK 70mm Throttle Body,BBK adjustable clutch quadrant,C & L 76mm Mass air meter,Cobra R's 17x9 w/ 245's,Trick Flow Intake,Flowmaster Force II exhaust system, Super Duty T5,Centerforce II Clutch,Heavy Duty Radiator,9mm Ford racing plug wires,Accel cap and Rotor www.geocities.com/i8urvpr/JM.html?987369348700

06-25-2001, 04:39 PM	#11
84stangLX Guest Posts: n/a	Below was posted on another message thread as well: Wow i wish i had those cars: they all had at least 7+ speed transmissions (me and a friend counted the upshifts, some totalled more than 10!), the second speeding scene in the movie i heard 7 shifts. they all had turbo noises even the cars without turbos That "9 second muscle car" stayed even with a "10 second" supra that had stiff road racing suspension The cars would keep on going even with catastrophic engine failures, and you can still race them without them sputtering and dying. The civic going at least 60 trying to keep up with the semi pulls off the road and stops within like a 30 foot area. Jesus, those are good brakes, 60 to 0 in 1 second, very nice. The real funny stuff came after the movie when high schoolers in their "hot rod" primered civics and stock, well anything, did lots of wheel spinning in the rain because with those 100 horsepower HOT ROD engines how can you not keep it from spinning. *note that it's a RACING movie and as i and my friends knew in advance cops would patrol the area to watch for idiots peeling out and driving like asses. With all those wings and ground effects i expected some of them to fly around like the delorian in back to the future (2 or 3...or whatever). I think the movie sucked, so did the plot, but whatever that musclecar was, it was pretty cool looking at least (for the 5 minutes they drove a real car before destroying it). I thought the head gang guy's RX7 (i think) was pretty decent looking, and there was like 1 or 2 other cars (i think there was a fairly cool looking Skyline in there as well). Whatever, this is just my worthless opinion and i'm sure more people liked the rice than not that went to see the movie, but i'm biased. ------------------ '84 Mustang 5.0 LX My car

06-25-2001, 05:27 PM	#13
dinomite The Dude Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 1,262	i could barely tell what a lot of the cars were cause of the body kits and stickers. i'm pretty sure the vast majority of hte cars in the movie were civics. NOS must of had a stake in this movie. good quote (not form movie) "honda makes many good cars, a number of them are engineering marvels, but none of them are named 'civic'" "a ricer is just a dyslexic trying to build a sleeper"

06-25-2001, 06:28 PM	#14
byrnech Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Anderson, TX. Posts: 166	I thought the movie was CRAP. I have had a simular idea, as i'm sure most everyone else has. I was thinking more of real street race scene like I used to have back in Houston, Tx. My movie would be more like a street racing DAZED AND CONFUSED meets AMERICAN GRAFFITI set in a modern day environment. A feel good comedy kind of thing. Not so much a plot but something people can relate to. Ricers relate to F&F B/C they think thier cars are as fast as the movie makes them seem. just my 2 pesos on it.

06-27-2001, 08:29 AM	#15
Mustang92 Drag Racer! Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Lake Worth, FL USA Posts: 757	Granted they were mostly imports but still a good movie in my book, extertainment wise and to be honest that's all that matters. It wasn't a documentary. At least they used fast imports for most of their race scenes (ie...supra, RX-7, Eclipse) instead of a Civic SI with an air filter. ------------------ 00 GT, MAC Offroad H, Steeda Pulleys & Timing Adjuster, 4.10’s, Flows w/turndowns, UPR shifter, UPR Pro Series LCA’s, Lakewood 70/30’s & 50/50’s, Weld Pro Stars, Kaenen Cobra R Hood, 253.8 RWHP/292.8RWTQ 12.91@101.93 (1.74 60ft) M/M 100, 7085 Recent Pic from Moroso

06-27-2001, 09:39 AM	#16
Capri306 Moderator Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan, USA Posts: 1,001	It could've been a LOT better movie. I give it an overall 6 out of 10. Good points were some of the action sequences (liked the SWAT team busting into that japanese dude's house and holding a knee to his throat), bad points were the number of subplots (OH GOD!) and how they danced around the fact all of the cars were rice. Not one American car in there except that ol' Dodge. Whoever mentioned that NOS had a hold on the movie is absolutely right. Probably trying to get the message to ricers that they can make their cars a little faster with nitrous. Most ricers probably didn't even know that. Now that the message is out ya think we should run for cover?!? Those races were drawn out for the purpose of making the movie, plain & simple. A 15+ second race (which I'm sure it would've been) wouldn't be cool for a movie. Checking his email at 140, hahaha. ------------------ Capri306, Moderator, The Mustang Works Online 1979 Mercury Capri, 5.0L -- C4 -- 2.73 1987 Mustang LX Notch

06-27-2001, 11:47 AM	#17
Fox Body Mustang Maniac Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: GA, U.S.A Posts: 2,266	Oh yeah, I forgot about the SWAT raiding the house, that was another fav part of mine. I think those guys were inhaling N2O the way they talked about it. ----------------------------------------- '79 Mustang Coup w/ 4" Cowl Stock 5.8L, C4 w/ shift kit Holley 750 cfm, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake 1 5/8" MAC shorty headers, Al driveshaft 2.5" Off road H-pipe, 2-chamber Flowmasters Front: 225/60/15, Rear: 255/60/15 Eagle GT II Weld wheels (15x6;15x8), 8.8" Rear w/ 3.55s 14 x 4” K&N air filter (getting the Xtreme setup someday) "Red, thou art my companion. Hasten now your quickened metamorphosis to Green that I may conquer all who dare abide there beside me. May they be left thither behind burnt black." ---Fox Body

06-27-2001, 12:13 PM	#18
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	OK guys here is my take on the whole thing. Atleast they did use fast imports for the race scenes twin turbos with NOS on a Supra. And an RX7 that was equally hopped up. Please dont give me this crap about how the speed of those cars was unrealitic cause I think that a supra wich is fast just how it comes with twin turbos and NOS would easily run a 10 in the 1/4. But the race scenes sucked *** . they must of been racing like 10 miles or something. It seemed like they were going 140mph for like 20 seconds or so. I would not consider anyone that has a Supra RX7 or a Skyline a ricer cause at least these guys forked out the cash for a real sports car and not a civic Overall I liked the movie maybe I liked it more than most of you cause I like imports like supras and Skylines and 300z's and so forth. Entertainment=9 Realism=3 Acting=9 So I give the movie 21 out of a possible 30. I can pretty much get into any movie dealing with cars I bought Gone in 60 seconds just as soon as it came out on dvd and I will buy the fast and the furious as well cause I thought it was entertaining

06-27-2001, 01:35 PM	#19
Power Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Oregon Posts: 420	Unfortunately, the lines between rice and non-rice are blurred somewhat. I think we can all agree that rice is not a make or model of car, but rather a state of mind. We have all seen the infamous 'stang that was riced out with stickers and body mods, or another famous look with the nice gold daytons and hydro's. At the same time we have seen imports which display no stickers and are very nicely modified to provide maximum power. But it is unfortunate that hollywood chose to make an american movie with next to nothing about american cars. But the reason behind that was the audience. 18-25 year olds prefer imports by a large margin. So hollywood goes by audience demand.

06-27-2001, 08:47 PM	#20
Stang Runner Registered Member Join Date: Jun 1999 Location: Walker, MI, USA Posts: 1,202	18-25 year olds prefer imports by a large margin I am in that age and hate Imports and the way the NOS flowed, it seemed like it was an endless supply.... That guy had 2 30LBS tanks!!!!!! ------------------ 1988 LX 5.0 3060lbs (full Tank) 14.90@100.2 On a Gtech Drivetrain: 2.73 Stock Gears (New Gears Are in my house3.55), World Class T-5, Lakewood Bellhousing, Summit Adjustable Cluch Quadrant & Cable, Alumminum Driveshaft, Flaming River Manual Steering Rack Suspension: MAC Control Arms,Maximum Motorsports Front Grip Package, H&R Sport Spings, Bilstein Shocks Engine: Steal Mounts, Ram air, K&N, Under Drive Pulles Exhaust: 1 5/8 Un-Equal Length Mac Headers, X-pipe W\cats, Edelbrock cat\