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Old 03-10-2001, 12:05 AM   #12
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PGkelly:

I suggest getting your facts straight before posting absurd comments regarding past and current Presidents.

Ronald Reagan was an excellent President. Let me explain some facts you seem to be unaware of;
When Reagan took office in 1981 we had a horrible economy with very high inflation and double-digit unemployment, among other problems, along with a killer tax rate.
Reagan got a Democrat congress to drastically lower the tax rate and within a year, the economy began to move forward and we enjoyed 12 years of this boom. By 1988, the government took in almost TWICE the money (in taxes) as it had in 1981, before the tax cut. Bill ("I accept Cash for Pardons") Clinton was a fortunate benefactor of that long-running boom that began when the Reagan Presidency did. It was no accident.
The 'debt' you refer to (a worn phrase right out of the Democrat Party handbook, by the way) was incurred when the majority party in Congress...the Democrats...simply refused to cut spending and laughed at the balanced budgets Reagan proposed. So, we had unbalanced budgets that spent more than the government took in.
Reagan signed off on these bloated budgets to get the military spending he wanted and other programs passed. The Democrats got to 'blame' Reagan for the 'debt' and you, my friend, are simply repeating that sad lie.

As for Reagan ending the Cold War. It was no accident, either. Gorbachev stated in his biography that he started dismantling the Soviet Union to get the money to defend against SDI ("Star Wars" to the uninformed) which was a Reagan idea and scared the Russians, as they knew Reagan could get this passed, if he wanted to, with a 49-state election win in 1984. No, of course Ronald Reagan didn't end the Cold War all by himself but the liberal/Democrat fantasy of Reagan "just happening to be there" is total B.S.
George H.W. Bush started a war. Oh dear.
How mean of him. What he did was protect the oil supply that powers your Mustang. He did it with minimal loss of life and the full support of the public and grudging support of a Democrat-controlled Congress. If he hadn't been so foolish as to raise taxes in 1991, he would have been easily re-elected in '92 and we could have been spared eight years of Bill and Hillary Clinton. Too bad.

Much of what Presidents Reagan and Bush accomplished is now downplayed and just lied about by liberals, because they need the Republican Presidency's to be failures. Fact is, both Reagan and G.H.W. Bush were good men and left the country better than they found it, despite what the liberal revisionists want you to believe. Please don't buy this garbage; do some reading, some research and find out the facts. Not hard to do but a bit more difficult than just throwing out liberal canards with no basis in fact.

In my opinion (shared by many), Bill Clinton is a lying, amoral pig and probably one of the worst persons to ever hold the office of President. NOTE: not the worst President (but close to Fillmore), just the worst person (amoral liar) to be President. He did accomplish one good thing: He made Richard Nixon look good, by comparison.
Now, we have a decent man (no saint, just not a pig) in the White House and with any luck, we may see some much needed tax relief this year. This will be a boon to the economy, as it always is. Funny, the Democrats are fighting it, even though we have a tax surplus because they can't spend all the money rolling into the IRS. Odd, isn't it? I'll take the tax cut, thanks.
I'll also take a Republican President and Bush is a winner, as time will tell.
Trust me....and check some historical facts before denigrating decent and honorable men who served as President and did so with honor, unlike #42.

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