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82 GT 02-01-2003 09:32 AM

Got a hefty speeding fine last night!!
 
I was coming home from picking up a pizza and going pretty fast to keep it warm by the time I got home.
I got busted going 77 in a 45!!...ouch!!
It's a $188 fine and I will probably have to go to a departmental hearing for excessive speed(31mph-over).
Does anyone know what they usually do?
I think they have a choice of:

1. taking a safe driver test
2. re-taking driver's license test again
3. 30 day suspension

Has anyone gotten busted for going this fast and what was the punishment?

My G/f was pissesd!! I said "hey, at least it was in your Taurus and not the mustang or I would have been going even faster!!
She didn't find any comfort or humor in that.

scott93gt 02-01-2003 10:10 AM

It depends on what state you live in. The last ticket I got was 85 in a 65....in a Buick Electra. But anyway, I had to retake the written portion of my test. That is Pennsylvania's way to handle it. PA just enacted new legislation on speeding in construction zones; over 11 mph the construction speed limit and your fine is doubled and a 15 day suspension.

tireburner163 02-01-2003 12:13 PM

25mph over the speed limit is criminal speeding here.

Ackbar00 02-01-2003 01:20 PM

I got tagged for 95 in a 50( had just reached the top of third gear) LUCKY for me, my passanger is my neighbor who happens to be a cop. He said he would try and get me out of it. Ended up just getting a speeding ticket and was on my way in about 6 minutes. Talk about pulling that one out of my ***.

Stang_Crazy 02-01-2003 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by scott93gt
PA just enacted new legislation on speeding in construction zones; over 11 mph the construction speed limit and your fine is doubled and a 15 day suspension.
I'll have to keep these new laws in mind when I'm driving. I'm glad you said something about it. Now I'll REALLY have to watch my speed through construction zones...and you know there are a TON in PA ;)

Old Guy with 87 GT 02-01-2003 10:52 PM

11 mph in a construction zone .......well heck the construction zones cover about 90% of Pa. roads ...........might as well just go by a metro

82gt ....in Pa. 31 miles above the speed limit requires a suspention (15 -30 days)and/or a drivers test .......and 5 pionts ....you'll have to go to a departmental hearing

depending on how many pionts you have on your record ,you might get additional days on the suspention.......if you go over 6 points then you have to go to departmental hearing and they will decide on whether you take a test or get suspended based on your driving record ....

i have a long record with pa. ....(been there, arrested for that)....if i learn any more of pa. laws i'm going to take the bar exame and become a layer

Crazy Horse GT 02-01-2003 11:37 PM

i got a 90 in a 65 zone, just had to pay 110.00 ticket + points on my liscense. :mad: :mad: :mad: :rolleyes:

Fox Body 02-02-2003 10:39 AM

That sucks, 82 GT. Don't know what to tell ya though, cause I live in a diff state. I don't know if this will make you feel better, but, in a way, you guys got it easier (pricewise). In GA, for 30 (or greater) mph over speed limit, you can be provided with a free pass to jail (though it depends on who pulls you over). Technically speaking, any speeding over limit is automatic $100. If you were caught around here for doing what you did, you probably wouldn't have gone to jail, but'd be paying a 3-$400 fine. The good thing though is that you will (at least in my county) USUALLY not get pulled over on the hwy for anything less than 10 mph over limit (unless they're doing a speed trap thing-- which they HARDLY ever do) and they don't sit in bushes where you can't see them (legally, they can't).

A friend of mine with a red 92 Z28 just got a ticket (last week) for doing 79 in a 55 on the interstate (out of all the flowing traffic, he was singled out in a laser speed trap), he'll be paying probably around $300. :(

82 GT 02-02-2003 12:22 PM

Old guy with 87 GT , I didn't have any points on my license until now. I had a clean record for about 4 yrs.
I'm hoping that when I go to the departmental hearing that they will look at that fact and let me go with just taking a test without the suspension.
An insurance company once told me that a suspension is as bad as a DUI on your driving record. I know because years ago I had a suspension and paid out the *** for insurance until the points finally came off.

Pokey 5.0 02-02-2003 03:26 PM

to answer yer question.........YES

6/01 i got popped for an 73mph in a 35(whoops!) almost lost my license. the law here in IL says 40+over is immediate grounds for suspension AND time served(30 days i believe)

anyways it ended up costing me just over $1000, traffic school, and a bunch of other tickets(cop tore my stang apart) just to keep my license.

88workcar 02-02-2003 08:28 PM

Try 99 in a 45, on a holiday weekend, on a substandard highway. I got arrested, cuffed, and stuffed. The girl riding with me had to drive my car home to my wife and convince her of what just happened. Meanwhile I get an 85mph ride to the copper house. I signed my self out, then the deputiy wrote it up as a speeding ticket and that got droped to a NMV and it cost me $80.00 and never made it to my record. Gotta love Louisiana.

CADreamin 02-03-2003 09:03 AM

My first ticket in PA for 86 in a 55 (16 years old, licensed for about three months) was a fine of about $190 and a 15-day license suspension. I forget how many points were involved, but you do not get a choice of what you want to do here in PA - they decide that for you at the departmental hearing.

Here is the web address for the PA point system fact sheet. It sounds like you're living in PA??? Pay attention to the section titled "Excessive Speeding" and "Under the Age of 18" (if you are younger than 18).

http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/pdotforms...rms/dl-71p.pdf

If you are under 18, my sympathies. Looks like a 90-day suspension will be imposed.

cyberstang5.0 02-03-2003 02:37 PM

I haven't been caught going my fastest over the speed limit yet :D (I've over trippled the limit before)

In Texas, if you go 20 over the limit, they can arrest you for wreckless driving.

The Fireman 02-03-2003 03:24 PM

A little over a year ago I passed a undercover cop, who was in a new Jeep Liberty, doing 75 in a 55. I had only had my Mustang for 5 days, and I just had got on it to see what it could do. He stopped me, and I started giving him the whole "Yes Sir", and "No Sir" bit. He let me go without a ticket, but I did get a pretty good cussin' from him. :D

Last week a North Carolina pig gave me a 75 dollar ticket(the "yes sir, no sir" bit didn't work on him) just for not having a seat belt on. That's a little tooooooo much if ya ask me.

82 GT 02-03-2003 03:41 PM

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Originally posted by CADreamin

If you are under 18, my sympathies. Looks like a 90-day suspension will be imposed.

Nope, no where near being a teenager any more.
I'm at the ages where I should have known better than that.

mustangII460 02-03-2003 06:48 PM

"Under cover cop let me go"

"North Carolina Pig gave me a ticket"

So if I gave you a ticket, I guess Im a "Pig." Makes sense.

82 GT 02-03-2003 07:54 PM

Got donuts??........:D

Old Guy with 87 GT 02-04-2003 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 82 GT
Got donuts??........:D
he he .........lol:D

mustang II460 ....i was wondering if you were gonna jump in on this thread :)

82 gt ........since you don't have a record then you should be in good shape ,just be honest and be prepared for the worst when you go for the hearing

last year i got a ticket for 81 in a 45 ,i had to go to departmental hearing for the ticket and for points acumulation ...........i got three different tickets last year and my driving record is like three pages long from when i was younger

when i went to the hearing ..... i was honest ,i admited that i was just driving fast and didn't try to present excuses ,i asked that she consider my livlyhood is dependant on my licence ,and i told her i "was" prepared to have my licence suspended (becouse i knew i was guilty as he*l)

well long story short ,i was sentanced to take the test over ......she cut me a magor break

so just be honest and up front ......... worst comes to worse you might have to walk for a couple of weeks :rolleyes:

Rice Hunter 02-04-2003 07:52 AM

I have been pulled over twice, but it should have been a lot more than that. I can remember going passed some cops at 15 over and they didn't even flinch. Last Sunday I was driving 80 in a 55 and a car comes riding on my *** like i'm doing 10. I get over and was about to flip him off when it turns out to be a state trooper. I guess lucky for me i was following a truck and the trooper had somewhere to be. One time i got on my bike and just had to see what it could do. This was the one and only time I did this, but I got it on a long straight stretch of road and went 90 over (145 in a 55). Screamed by a cop. I'm thinking he just said 'ah screw it' Good luck with everything.

CADreamin 02-04-2003 09:00 AM

Quote:

Nope, no where near being a teenager any more. I'm at the ages where I should have known better than that.
What's that country song...old enough to know better, but still too young to care?

If you're not under 18 and have a pretty clean record, you should be OK. I've had three points-related suspensions in the past. I'm batting 1 for 3 in departmental hearings. They took a 15-day suspension for the 86 in a 55, and later another 15-day for the second accumulation of six or more points. But on the third accumulation of six or more points, the hearing officer elected to take no action. That suspension could have been 30 days for me.

joe4speed 02-04-2003 09:58 AM

I just recently got an 86 in a 55 and that was 275.00 and 4 points off your license. That sucked, and it was the most ******* cop too. Said to me, "ever get a speeding ticket before?" and I said no, then he said well now you're f*cked. I know I was going 80 and that was it... he nailed me for 86 so he could get 30+ which is 100.00 more than a ticket for 84mph would be.
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Rice Hunter 02-04-2003 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by joe4speed
I just recently got an 86 in a 55 and that was 275.00 and 4 points off your license. That sucked, and it was the most ******* cop too. Said to me, "ever get a speeding ticket before?" and I said no, then he said well now you're f*cked. I know I was going 80 and that was it... he nailed me for 86 so he could get 30+ which is 100.00 more than a ticket for 84mph would be.
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Wow, what a dick move on the cops part!!:mad: When I was last pulled over, the cop took ten mph off for me, he was a nice guy. I guess you have to speed when they are in a good mood.

The Fireman 02-04-2003 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mustangII460
"Under cover cop let me go"

"North Carolina Pig gave me a ticket"

So if I gave you a ticket, I guess Im a "Pig." Makes sense.

WELL DUH!!!!!!!! :p

82 GT 02-04-2003 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Old Guy with 87 GT



82 gt ........since you don't have a record then you should be in good shape ,just be honest and be prepared for the worst when you go for the hearing



so just be honest and up front ......... worst comes to worse you might have to walk for a couple of weeks :rolleyes: [/B]
Then I guess I shouldn't tell them that I was trying to keep my pizza warm??.......:D

mustangII460 02-04-2003 06:59 PM

Sorry guys for the late reply.


Im just proud to be an American first, Disabled Vet second, and Officer lastly.

I'm just glad people respect me for the service I have given my Country, continued service to State, and my Community.

And you?

82 GT 02-04-2003 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mustangII460
Sorry guys for the late reply.


Im just proud to be an American first, Disabled Vet second, and Officer lastly.

I'm just glad people respect me for the service I have given my Country, continued service to State, and my Community.

And you?

I'm just glad that I was never pulled over when I did over double the 65mph speed limit.

Crazy Horse GT 02-05-2003 02:17 AM

live & learn, if you got caught, well your busted, i know, paid a few ticket's myself, but i was caught dead to right's, got brakes?. lol:D :D :D :p

Old Guy with 87 GT 02-05-2003 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 82 GT
I'm just glad that I was never pulled over when I did over double the 65mph speed limit.
that would be a misdemeaner in this state .........over 110 miles per hour is a misdemeaner ,you can get aressted on the spot ...........do over 110 past a couple of other cars ,you can get a felony.......you will definatly get arrested

seems that things can go either way when dealing with the law ......last year i had a small town cop bump my speed up a few miles per hour ,...put me into the next higher fine range ........
........but on the other side of the coin ,about six months ago a state cop cut me a big break by giving me a no-point summery when i blew past her at about 80 on a small country road (and it took her 6 miles to catch up to me)


i can't really hold a resentment torwards the law .......for everything i was ever arrested for and treated harshly ,there was an equall instance that i was cut a break ......it all sorta balences out .........

mustangII460..........couple months ago , i was talking to a local cop in my area that stoped by to check out me and a couple of other cars ......he asked if my car was fast ,.....i told him it'd take about 15 seconds to commit a felonie..........he got a laugh out of that
...........in my life i've had some differantses with the law and i've met some cops who were pricks ,but out of the magority of cops i've met ,.....ive found that if you treat em with the same respect you would give anybody ,most of em are ok peaple and it just comes down to them doing there job ..........and to be honest i was never arrested for anything i wasn't guilty of
:rolleyes:

82 GT 02-05-2003 03:27 PM

OLD GUY WITH 87 GT, is there really any good defense against a speeding ticket when you're caught on radar?
In my case, it was at night, on a back road and I was the only car on the road.
He had his lights on before I ever saw him...never had a chance to slow down.
Now that I hear stories about cops tacking a few mph on the tickets, I wonder if he did that to me so that I would be in the 31mph+ over the limit?
Yes, I was speeding but I'm now wondering if I was actually going 77mph or perhaps a tad bit slower.
He asked me if I knew how fast I was going and I said 70 and he said" no, more like 77
Would it be worth admitting I was going 70 or 75 tops but not 77 to a judge?

mustangII460 02-05-2003 06:48 PM

The best defense when [ I ] pull over people is to be honest. It's usually what you say that tips the scales. " I wasn't speeding" guess what.

Ive stopped people going ten over and they lied, they got a ticket. Ive stopped people going fifty over, tell the truth, and be on their way. Several varitables to consider though. The main one for me is the truth.


82 GT. Did you look at your speedo after you saw him? If you did you may have let out of it . 7 mph difference is nothing. Id say the radar and your speedo are atleast 2-3 mph off each other. Plus if you lifted.

Ive been in this buisness for many years and personally have never heard or wittnessed a officer adding any mph to a ticket. Although anything is possible. There are other ways to increase the amount of violations, seatbelt, lights, mufflers or what ever. It goes back to what you say, and how you say it, when your stopped.

Old Guy with 87 GT 02-05-2003 10:17 PM

82gt .......i would have to say in most cases that peaple fight speeding tickits ,they lose and wind up going through more trouble then it's worth
sounds like the cop has a pretty solid case .....radar has been proven to be pretty acurate .............your only defence would be if the radar wasn't calibrated recently

most likely if you fought this , it would wind up coming down to your word agianst his ........so even if you were going slower ,most likely the judge would side with the cop

mustangII460 .......the occation i mentioned was a rare instance ,
.........out of the five times i've been clocked in the ol 87 ,4 times my speedo was right on the money ......the instance i was talking about ,i was clocked by vascar timing and what my speedo said was 8-9 mph slower then what the cop said i was doing (witch was 1 mph into the next fine range - 51 in a 35)was a smalle township cop and he didn't seem to be mad at me ,he was actually pretty friendly ,.......i pretty much sumed it up as his reaction time might have been a little slow and that was just the speed he dicided to put on the paperwork..........didn't think he did it milicoisly or out of spite ,i figured he wasn't big on fast cars and just wasn't going to cut me any breaks

i was going to fight it and go for the same claim as mentioned above .....argue that i was speeding but not going as fast ......but well when i thought about it a day in court woulda meant a day of missed work witch woulda cost even more money then just paying for the fine ......:rolleyes:

out of my experience ,being honest and admitting it when your guilty seems to get you alot more breakes then giving excuses ....most cops have heard em all anyway .........last time i got stopped was in delaware ,state cop pulled me over and asked why i was going 81 mph ........i told him " cause i couldn't get the car in front of me to go any faster " :D ........ he grined and wound up only putting me down for doing 75

The Fireman 02-06-2003 10:52 AM

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Originally posted by mustangII460
It goes back to what you say, and how you say it, when your stopped.
Not always.

There have been times I've argued with cops in the past, and they've let me go. Other times I've been just as nice, and honest as I could be, and I was given a ticket. For example the "North Carolina Pig" instance.

82 GT 02-06-2003 03:44 PM

Fireman, I see what you are saying but in all fairness, some cops are just assholes who are too fat and heavy to get a job doing anything else and some cops are pretty cool.
State cops have a ticket quota they must satisfy first before they can just start giving warnings and leaving people off.
Sometimes it's all how a cop's day has been going that determines if you get a ticket or not.
In my case though, almost 80mph, on a back twisty road that is only posted at 45 mph was too fast ( I admit myself).
Trying to keep a pizza hot is not a good excuse(in retrospect).
Like 460 mustang II said, there are a lot of variables involved with giving tickets.

The Fireman 02-06-2003 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 82 GT
Fireman, I see what you are saying but in all fairness, some cops are just assholes who are too fat and heavy to get a job doing anything else and some cops are pretty cool.
When did I say all cops were a**holes? http://www.tmsword.com/forums/html/emoticons/huh.gif

82 GT 02-06-2003 08:58 PM

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Originally posted by The Fireman
When did I say all cops were a**holes? http://www.tmsword.com/forums/html/emoticons/huh.gif
You didn't....you call them "pigs"....as if that's any better
:confused: :confused:

The Fireman 02-08-2003 06:00 PM

Geez. :rolleyes: Where did I say ALL cops were pigs then?

explicitone 02-09-2003 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 82 GT
You didn't....you call them "pigs"....as if that's any better
:confused: :confused:

as far as I seen he called one cop a pig not all

82 GT 02-09-2003 11:51 AM

I'm not going to argue with you Fireman. It's not worth it.....really....it's not.
I guess they're not pigs unless they give you a ticket.
Thanks for clearing that all up.

The Fireman 02-09-2003 05:31 PM

Hmm. Looks like you're arguing to me.

No 82 GT I called him a pig, because he was acting like an a**hole. Like it just made his day that he could give me a ticket. NOW it's "cleared up".

Unless you want to twist around something else I've said.

82 GT 02-09-2003 06:58 PM

Actually, I was originally siding with you because I've seen my share of cocky cops. YOU aparently didn't see it that way and got defensive because I "misquoted" you. :rolleyes:

mustangII460 02-09-2003 08:25 PM

Hey,, are you two married?

82 GT 02-09-2003 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mustangII460
Hey,, are you two married?
Are you going to give me a ticket for arguing?
An attitude like that will get you put in the "pig" category around here.

The Fireman 02-10-2003 11:06 PM

And when I just asked a simple question to try, and correct your misquoting me, you started cocking your attitude. THAT will get YOU put in the "a**hole that can't read" category. :p :rolleyes:

82 GT 02-11-2003 03:19 PM

Fireman they ruined a perfect a**hole by putting teeth in your mouth!!
Don't you have a fire to start somewhere??

The Fireman 02-11-2003 04:38 PM

Ok we get it. You can use the bold feature. WOW!!!!! We're all real impressed. :rolleyes:

Quote:

Don't you have a fire to start somewhere??
Yeah maybe I'll drop by your girlfriend's house, and she can help me warm up the covers.

mustangII460 02-11-2003 06:47 PM

Heck I was right,, you two are married.....Oink

82 GT 02-11-2003 07:59 PM

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Originally posted by The Fireman

Yeah maybe I'll drop by your girlfriend's house, and she can help me warm up the covers.

Cool, that means you would be in my house which would give me an excellent reason for killing you.

The Fireman 02-11-2003 09:43 PM

Didn't you mean "Cool, that means YOU would be in my house which would give me an excellent reason for killing YOU."? :D

82 GT 02-11-2003 10:13 PM

Yeah, but I decided a piece of sh*t like you isn't worth the extra effort.

The Fireman 02-11-2003 10:22 PM

Oh so it's come to mindless name calling. Yeah that often seems to be what the weak minded fall back on.

I see you figured out that sh*t has four letters in it, and not five. Good for you.


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