Header advice

mustangLX92 · 11-07-2001, 01:29 PM

I need some header advice. Right now i have 1 5/8" motorsports. What are the advantages of longtube headers? Any advice would help me out.

Mustang_289 · 11-07-2001, 01:41 PM

Long Tube headers generate more horsepower
and torque, throughout the power range than direct replacement shorties. They also provide a deeper richer sound. One word of caution - they're much harder to install than shorties. On a fox body - you need to raise the motor, remove the steering linkage and a few other things to get them in. I'm in the process right now of installing MAC long-tubes on an 88GT.

mustangLX92 · 11-07-2001, 02:37 PM

I think the long tubes are out because of cost and the harder installation. I also want to use my existing h pipe that i just bought. What headers do you guys think i should get?

caseyp94GT · 11-08-2001, 12:33 AM

I've got Mac shortie headers, no problems so far. They've been on around a year now i guess.

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94 GT, the usual stuff
13.73@98mph

chris91LX · 11-08-2001, 11:49 AM

If you have the Motorsport 1 5/8" already, why do you need a new set? IMO the Motorsports are better than many of the other headers because of the one piece flange. I bought the BBK's but wish I would have gone with the Motorsports instead, the BBK's were tweaked from the factory and I had nightmares for a few months with leaks and ended up taking 'em on and off five times before BBK replaced them. This was a couple years ago though and I know that Bassani and several others have come out with new and improved sets, but I don't know much about them. The jet hot or ceramic coated is nice btw if you have stainless pipes that have discolored or something.

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91 LX 5.0
Z t-5, 3:73 gear, Vortech 73mm Mass Air, Accufab 65mm TB, BBK underdrives, Crane HI-6S Ignition, BBK unequal length headers, Bassani x pipe, 2.5" Dynomax Super Turbo cat back, Kenny Brown Super Subs, Factory Five Control Arms, Mac cold air kit, Nitto D/R's and more to come!

[This message has been edited by chris91LX (edited 11-08-2001).]

Dark_5.0 · 11-08-2001, 01:02 PM

I have BBK 1 5/8 equal length shorties on my car they look really nice. In my opinion they are the best shorty header out there right now.

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88 mustang gt convertible bored to 306 BBk equal length headers, mac cold air fender kit, 3.73 FMS gears, Steeds Tri-ax shifter, Steeda underdrive pullies, Custom off road X-pipe, 2 chamber flow masters, cowl hood, nitto drag radials, ford racing clutch, 160* thermostat 16 degrees of timing electric fan off 94' t-bird jacobs electronics cap and wires. Edelbrock 1 1/2 inch drop springs. (Best E.T. 14.79@93mph @3000ft)

DRRummel · 11-08-2001, 01:29 PM

I have used the JBA Stainless headers before. They bolt right in. Everything fits and works without a problem.

bosco · 11-08-2001, 02:03 PM

Im also thinking about converting from shorties to full length. I was looking at bbk full lengths, waht do yall think of those, and since i was re-doing the exhaust, a friend recommended converting to 3 inch piping, im not seriously considering it yet, but just wondered if any one else has some advise before i spend the non existant money

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'87 coupe, 308, world product windsor jr. heads, comp cams 220@.050/.512 110 lsa roller cam,crane full roller rockers, 4bbl holly carb, wiend aluminum intake, pullies, 1 5/8 bbk shorties, off road h-pipe 2 chamber flows, 3.73 posi rear end, msd distributer/ignition, steeda tri ax shifter, t-5 tranny, auto meter guages, and more to come (hopefully

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Casper5.0 · 11-09-2001, 02:43 AM

I really like my BBK 1 5/8 longtubes with the x pipe, sounds nice when you get on it but it's nice and quiet otherwise. The install wasn't too bad, had to lift the motor on the passenger side but otherwise it wasn't bad at all, and the performance over stock is amazing.

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94 cobra, steeda tri-ax, bbk 1 5/8 longtubes, dr. gas x pipe, eec tuner, ultra flo's, 65 mm tb, underdrives

75 mm MAF, CAI, 3.73's soon.....

11-07-2001, 01:29 PM	#1
mustangLX92 Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Maryland Posts: 138	Header advice I need some header advice. Right now i have 1 5/8" motorsports. What are the advantages of longtube headers? Any advice would help me out.

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11-07-2001, 01:41 PM	#2
Mustang_289 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 512	Long Tube headers generate more horsepower and torque, throughout the power range than direct replacement shorties. They also provide a deeper richer sound. One word of caution - they're much harder to install than shorties. On a fox body - you need to raise the motor, remove the steering linkage and a few other things to get them in. I'm in the process right now of installing MAC long-tubes on an 88GT.

11-07-2001, 02:37 PM	#3
mustangLX92 Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Maryland Posts: 138	I think the long tubes are out because of cost and the harder installation. I also want to use my existing h pipe that i just bought. What headers do you guys think i should get?

11-08-2001, 12:33 AM	#4
caseyp94GT Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Ky Posts: 3	I've got Mac shortie headers, no problems so far. They've been on around a year now i guess. ------------------ 94 GT, the usual stuff 13.73@98mph

11-08-2001, 11:49 AM	#5
chris91LX Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Suburban Chicago, Hanover Park Posts: 695	If you have the Motorsport 1 5/8" already, why do you need a new set? IMO the Motorsports are better than many of the other headers because of the one piece flange. I bought the BBK's but wish I would have gone with the Motorsports instead, the BBK's were tweaked from the factory and I had nightmares for a few months with leaks and ended up taking 'em on and off five times before BBK replaced them. This was a couple years ago though and I know that Bassani and several others have come out with new and improved sets, but I don't know much about them. The jet hot or ceramic coated is nice btw if you have stainless pipes that have discolored or something. ------------------ 91 LX 5.0 Z t-5, 3:73 gear, Vortech 73mm Mass Air, Accufab 65mm TB, BBK underdrives, Crane HI-6S Ignition, BBK unequal length headers, Bassani x pipe, 2.5" Dynomax Super Turbo cat back, Kenny Brown Super Subs, Factory Five Control Arms, Mac cold air kit, Nitto D/R's and more to come! [This message has been edited by chris91LX (edited 11-08-2001).]

11-08-2001, 01:02 PM	#6
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	I have BBK 1 5/8 equal length shorties on my car they look really nice. In my opinion they are the best shorty header out there right now. ------------------ 88 mustang gt convertible bored to 306 BBk equal length headers, mac cold air fender kit, 3.73 FMS gears, Steeds Tri-ax shifter, Steeda underdrive pullies, Custom off road X-pipe, 2 chamber flow masters, cowl hood, nitto drag radials, ford racing clutch, 160* thermostat 16 degrees of timing electric fan off 94' t-bird jacobs electronics cap and wires. Edelbrock 1 1/2 inch drop springs. (Best E.T. 14.79@93mph @3000ft)

11-08-2001, 01:29 PM	#7
DRRummel Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Baltimore, Md. Posts: 2	I have used the JBA Stainless headers before. They bolt right in. Everything fits and works without a problem.

11-08-2001, 02:03 PM	#8
bosco Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: austin TX Posts: 115	Im also thinking about converting from shorties to full length. I was looking at bbk full lengths, waht do yall think of those, and since i was re-doing the exhaust, a friend recommended converting to 3 inch piping, im not seriously considering it yet, but just wondered if any one else has some advise before i spend the non existant money ------------------ '87 coupe, 308, world product windsor jr. heads, comp cams 220@.050/.512 110 lsa roller cam,crane full roller rockers, 4bbl holly carb, wiend aluminum intake, pullies, 1 5/8 bbk shorties, off road h-pipe 2 chamber flows, 3.73 posi rear end, msd distributer/ignition, steeda tri ax shifter, t-5 tranny, auto meter guages, and more to come (hopefully )

11-09-2001, 02:43 AM	#9
Casper5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Stillwater, OK Posts: 107	I really like my BBK 1 5/8 longtubes with the x pipe, sounds nice when you get on it but it's nice and quiet otherwise. The install wasn't too bad, had to lift the motor on the passenger side but otherwise it wasn't bad at all, and the performance over stock is amazing. ------------------ 94 cobra, steeda tri-ax, bbk 1 5/8 longtubes, dr. gas x pipe, eec tuner, ultra flo's, 65 mm tb, underdrives 75 mm MAF, CAI, 3.73's soon.....