How many of you guys would mod a v-6? - Page 3

The Deuce · 10-07-2002, 10:56 PM

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Originally posted by this is not cbring
The boxer engine, also called a "flat engine" or "pancake engine," is an engine whose cylinders are laid down on their sides.

Since this has turned into a technical pissing contest, go ahead an mislabel that as a "pancake" engine. I'd like to see you call it that at a PCA meet. You'd get laughed at.

For those who like to learn, the "pancake motor" was a special designation given to the air cooled flat four used in the early Type III VW's. These were the notchback, fastback, and squareback cars. That variation of the bug motor had an early Bosch fuel injection and measured 15" from top to bottom. It was flat on the top and bottom, and could easily be dropped out the bottom of a type III to work on.

Not all boxer motors are pancakes, if you don't believe me, ask the next guy you see driving a mid 80's Testarossa.

jj_jonathon · 10-07-2002, 11:06 PM

I love learning this stuff

N1 Deuce...

this is not cbring · 10-07-2002, 11:10 PM

you are right, i got that from a general boxer engine site......i couldn't find much that talked about 6 cylinders

what do you expect from a guy that drives a "Nazi car"???

jj_jonathon · 10-07-2002, 11:12 PM

damn mustang know-it-all!

...all in good fun right?

The Deuce · 10-07-2002, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by this is not cbring
you are right, i got that from a general boxer engine site......i couldn't find much that talked about 6 cylinders

what do you expect from a guy that drives a "Nazi car"???

Now you're talking my language man.

You just might be alright.

10-07-2002, 11:36 PM

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Originally posted by jj_jonathon
any FREE oxygen....should make those people pay for it at the oxygen bars...rofl

lol, yeah my line to some people would be 'oh sorry we just sold the last one.'

-murray

MidNiteBlu 5.0 · 10-08-2002, 12:06 AM

I hate to break it to you all but where did cbring say anything really bad? i mean I admit he made a couple statements that may not have been completely true in his first posts but i have not recalled him spewing BS or flaming up the whole board.

And dont call a GTI rice. i am not gonna point fingers but a few of you really have problems if your gonna call any import that comes here a rice burner. there are imports and GTi's in particular that could hang with any almost any car here. Alot of you guys seem to be turning into total Mustang/domestic Nazis.

makes you wonder why a few of the people that made this board great in the past are leaving huh?

84LX89GT · 10-08-2002, 07:03 PM

I think if you're going to modify a V6 mustang, get the '99+ mustang with the 190hp engine, as opposed to the previous 145 or whatever HP engine. The 190hp 3.8L has better heads and intake, and with a supercharger, cam, porting, gears and exhaust would absolutely rip. That's about all i'd modify. I'd use one of the older ones maybe as a fun daily driver with stiffer suspension (at least upgrade to GT suspension) and not spend much money on boosting power (unless i changed to the '99+ or whatever year 190 hp engine stuff).

the V6 mustangs have potential, but i'd much rather start off with a 5.0L or 4.6L V8 because all the suspension and drivetrain is beefed up already.

429mustang · 10-09-2002, 02:01 AM

The only v-6's I'd bother with would be a Grand National and maybe a volkwagon (scirroco/GTI). I'm not gonna lie, I wouldn't mind having a Grand National, but for the price I'd pay for a nice one, I'd rather build a BAYAD early 90's black (or dark metalic grey) notchback (331 stroker/TKO/3.90's/ now I'm pissed/ welp see ya).........

joe4speed · 10-09-2002, 02:28 AM

I mod anything I have, to an extent.

10-20-2002, 10:58 AM

I have a '98 3.8L V-6 and have modified w/K&N Filter, Pro-kit Eibach Springs and Strut Tower Bar. Next will be cool-air intake and Superchip/Diablo (havn't decided yet based on forum messages. I'll wait 'til more guys drop the Diablo in and see). I have to be honest and say that it all depends on what your goal is.

I am 32 and have a young son. The gas mileage on a well tuned 3.8L is much better than the 4.6L. With the whole Iraq issue, I'd compromise HP right now in lieu of potential gas prices. For young men, Insurance is a big factor too.

Don't let all these guys interested in increasing their ET at the tracks let you fold on the V-6. Modify him a bit and you'll blow the GT boys out the window and they'll look at you like...Huh?...

Do your research, keep function before form and only buy the best.

Have Fun! Jane of all Trades.

Crazy Horse GT · 10-20-2002, 09:59 PM

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Originally posted by Janeofalltrades
I have a '98 3.8L V-6 and have modified w/K&N Filter, Pro-kit Eibach Springs and Strut Tower Bar. Next will be cool-air intake and Superchip/Diablo (havn't decided yet based on forum messages. I'll wait 'til more guys drop the Diablo in and see). I have to be honest and say that it all depends on what your goal is.

I am 32 and have a young son. The gas mileage on a well tuned 3.8L is much better than the 4.6L. With the whole Iraq issue, I'd compromise HP right now in lieu of potential gas prices. For young men, Insurance is a big factor too.

Don't let all these guys interested in increasing their ET at the tracks let you fold on the V-6. Modify him a bit and you'll blow the GT boys out the window and they'll look at you like...Huh?...

Do your research, keep function before form and only buy the best.

Have Fun! Jane of all Trades.

go back jane & find my post about cali- mustang's - all kind's of power adders for the 3.8 stang's, lol i found out a 3.8 has 9:4 compression, compared to the 4.6 -9:-o compression. lol.

DAN-MAN · 10-21-2002, 01:33 PM

Geez, this thread got out of whack...

Daniel.

Rev · 10-21-2002, 07:21 PM

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Originally posted by Rev
Not worth the effort IMHO. If it wasn't given to you for free,just get a V-8 to begin with. Even if it was given to you, sell it and buy a V-8.

Rev

Horse, I think it was probably me that was being referredf to as opposed to modding the 6 banger..

Rev

10-21-2002, 07:50 PM

Gentlemen,

I did not intend to offend anyone with my statements. I WISH I could have 1/2 of what some of you fella's have, but, I can't. So I do with what I have and try to be happy with that. I just felt that a couple of the absolute don't bother comments may have driven Dan-man away from a nice solid vehicle.

We just can't all have what some of you "Big Guys" have. Be nice to us Newbie Wanna-bes "k"...Some of us are looking for true knowledge here... Wink, Smile ... We're all family here right!

Jane

10-21-2002, 08:05 PM

and I'd like to recant the "ET time" statement. You are all nice people and at the moment, ya' made me a little grumpy (and a tad deficient having a little 'ol V-6).

So sorry guys...

Rev · 10-21-2002, 08:18 PM

Please don't feel deficient Jane or grumpy either for heaven sakes. We welcome anyone in here no matter what they might drive. And BTW, most of us "big guys" are just ordinary car enthuseists that love our cars and want to talk with others about them. Welcome Jane to MW.

Rev

10-21-2002, 08:41 PM

Thanks Rev!

Nice to be able to talk to you guys. I usually just like watching,

but sometimes you just have to jump in there and grab the bull by the horns.

Thanks again for the warm welcome and it's nice to be here. Expect me to pop in and peek around now and then. You guys have some awesome information and I have been able to make some pretty nice little changes to my "boy" and I'm real happy with him so far. It's always nice to keep us ladies happy!

10-07-2002, 11:06 PM	#2
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10-07-2002, 11:10 PM	#3
this is not cbring Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 380	you are right, i got that from a general boxer engine site......i couldn't find much that talked about 6 cylinders what do you expect from a guy that drives a "Nazi car"??? __________________ 2002 vw gti 1.8T

10-07-2002, 11:12 PM	#4
jj_jonathon Trisket Join Date: May 2002 Location: University of Florida, FL Posts: ½ Posts: 1,560	damn mustang know-it-all! ...all in good fun right? __________________ University of Florida - Physics Major My 02GT vert Media Center Pics BBK Underdrive Pulleys \| K&N FIPK (Gen II) \| Bullet Grille \| Mach 1 Chin Spoiler \| UPR Interior Parts \| XM Radio \| Audiobahn Subs Ricer Hater's Club Member #1/2 (30) http://www.ricehatersclub.com/

10-08-2002, 12:06 AM	#7
MidNiteBlu 5.0 I got something to say Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,557	I hate to break it to you all but where did cbring say anything really bad? i mean I admit he made a couple statements that may not have been completely true in his first posts but i have not recalled him spewing BS or flaming up the whole board. And dont call a GTI rice. i am not gonna point fingers but a few of you really have problems if your gonna call any import that comes here a rice burner. there are imports and GTi's in particular that could hang with any almost any car here. Alot of you guys seem to be turning into total Mustang/domestic Nazis. makes you wonder why a few of the people that made this board great in the past are leaving huh? __________________ 91 LX Hatch 5.0 - made for the twisties 89 LX Hatchback 5.0 5spd. stolen/stripped 4/7/05 http://www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/...splay.cgi?3494 1987 Toyota Pickup Ricer Haters Club Member #33 Want a custom gauge cluster for your Vintage Mustang? www.jmeenterprises.com

10-08-2002, 07:03 PM	#8
84LX89GT Mustangs Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 1,938	I think if you're going to modify a V6 mustang, get the '99+ mustang with the 190hp engine, as opposed to the previous 145 or whatever HP engine. The 190hp 3.8L has better heads and intake, and with a supercharger, cam, porting, gears and exhaust would absolutely rip. That's about all i'd modify. I'd use one of the older ones maybe as a fun daily driver with stiffer suspension (at least upgrade to GT suspension) and not spend much money on boosting power (unless i changed to the '99+ or whatever year 190 hp engine stuff). the V6 mustangs have potential, but i'd much rather start off with a 5.0L or 4.6L V8 because all the suspension and drivetrain is beefed up already. __________________ 2005 Suzuki Hayabusa GSX1300-R 1980 Ford Thunderbird - 255 V8 ported heads, 5.0L ported stock headers, O.R. H-pipe and Flowmaster 2-chambers, dual roller timing chain hi-po Mack Truck hood emblem 1985 Mustang GT 5.0L T5, F-303, GT40p, headers, off-road h, flowmasters, MSD stuff, etc. Sold 02/06/04 1989 Mustang GT ET: 13.304@102.29 mph (5-24-03) Sold - 1998 Mustang Cobra coupe, 1/4 mile - street tires: 13.843@103.41 (bone stock)

10-09-2002, 02:01 AM	#9
429mustang Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: westerville, OH USA Posts: 618	The only v-6's I'd bother with would be a Grand National and maybe a volkwagon (scirroco/GTI). I'm not gonna lie, I wouldn't mind having a Grand National, but for the price I'd pay for a nice one, I'd rather build a BAYAD early 90's black (or dark metalic grey) notchback (331 stroker/TKO/3.90's/ now I'm pissed/ welp see ya)......... __________________ 1990 Notchback: BBK Ceramic Coated Full length headers, Dr. Gas 3"- 2 1/2" x-pipe, Flowmaster 40's/turndowns.

10-09-2002, 02:28 AM	#10
joe4speed He said Member...heh, heh Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Jupiter, Florida U.S.A. Posts: 3,718	I mod anything I have, to an extent. __________________ *Joe!* 1988 GT, 13.58@101mph Check out my listing! Click here! Or my website:www.joe4speed.com

10-20-2002, 10:58 AM	#11
Janeofalltrades Guest Posts: n/a	Modified V-6 I have a '98 3.8L V-6 and have modified w/K&N Filter, Pro-kit Eibach Springs and Strut Tower Bar. Next will be cool-air intake and Superchip/Diablo (havn't decided yet based on forum messages. I'll wait 'til more guys drop the Diablo in and see). I have to be honest and say that it all depends on what your goal is. I am 32 and have a young son. The gas mileage on a well tuned 3.8L is much better than the 4.6L. With the whole Iraq issue, I'd compromise HP right now in lieu of potential gas prices. For young men, Insurance is a big factor too. Don't let all these guys interested in increasing their ET at the tracks let you fold on the V-6. Modify him a bit and you'll blow the GT boys out the window and they'll look at you like...Huh?... Do your research, keep function before form and only buy the best. Have Fun! Jane of all Trades.

10-21-2002, 01:33 PM	#13
DAN-MAN Confederate Cowboy Join Date: May 2002 Location: Southeast Missouri Posts: 546	Geez, this thread got out of whack... Daniel. __________________ DAN-MAN RHC MEMBER #25

10-21-2002, 07:50 PM	#15
Janeofalltrades Guest Posts: n/a	No disrepect Gentlemen Gentlemen, I did not intend to offend anyone with my statements. I WISH I could have 1/2 of what some of you fella's have, but, I can't. So I do with what I have and try to be happy with that. I just felt that a couple of the absolute don't bother comments may have driven Dan-man away from a nice solid vehicle. We just can't all have what some of you "Big Guys" have. Be nice to us Newbie Wanna-bes "k"...Some of us are looking for true knowledge here... Wink, Smile ... We're all family here right! Jane

10-21-2002, 08:05 PM	#16
Janeofalltrades Guest Posts: n/a	and I'd like to recant the "ET time" statement. You are all nice people and at the moment, ya' made me a little grumpy (and a tad deficient having a little 'ol V-6). So sorry guys...

10-21-2002, 08:18 PM	#17
Rev Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Houston, Tx. Posts: 3,887	Don't feel deficient Please don't feel deficient Jane or grumpy either for heaven sakes. We welcome anyone in here no matter what they might drive. And BTW, most of us "big guys" are just ordinary car enthuseists that love our cars and want to talk with others about them. Welcome Jane to MW. Rev __________________ '66 Coupe, 306, 350-375 HP, C-4, 13.07 e.t., 104.8 mph, 1/4 mi. O.B.C. #2 '66 coupe

10-21-2002, 08:41 PM	#18
Janeofalltrades Guest Posts: n/a	Thanks! Thanks Rev! Nice to be able to talk to you guys. I usually just like watching, but sometimes you just have to jump in there and grab the bull by the horns. Thanks again for the warm welcome and it's nice to be here. Expect me to pop in and peek around now and then. You guys have some awesome information and I have been able to make some pretty nice little changes to my "boy" and I'm real happy with him so far. It's always nice to keep us ladies happy!

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