I hate banks

[induction]

Listen too yourself your ranting about what YOU are guilty of. Don"t ASSUME you know what that does. Look I tried to tell you that I may have been misunderstood an ment no harm ,.But no" here comes the soap box" Point the finger at yourself for a change. Man dont give yourself a stroke.

[joe4speed]

I hate banks too!

[Mr 5 0]

Originally posted by induction

Listen too yourself your ranting about whay you do dont ASSUME you know what that does. Look I tried to tell you that I may have been misunderstood an ment no harm But no here comes the soap box point the finger at yourself for a change. man dont give yourself a stroke.

Testy today, aren't we? Did you actually read anything I posted to you or did it have too many words?

In any case, your incoherence on this post makes my point.

Those who cannot make a convincing argument simply name call and flame those who do.

Your hysteria is just another example of the all-too-common refusal of some folks to have a civil discussion when someone challenges your actions or your point of view. It's rather sad.

Oh well, I tried....man.

[induction]

Originally posted by Mr 5 0


Testy today, are we?

Your incoherence on this post makes my point.

Those who cannot make a convincing argument simply name call and flame those who do. Don't you know how to 'deal with it'? Your hysteria is just another example of the refusal to have a civil discussion when someone doesn't support your actions or point of view...man.

Oh well, I tried.

ditto

[polara7777]

I had a bank lose $4000 before and they told me they couldn't do anything about it because I told them my sister also had my ATM pin #! I had given it to her in an emergency situation and when I went in to find out where my money was they asked if anyone else had the code to my card, I said yeah my sister. They told me there was nothing they could do about it!!! I had to swallow $4000 bucks because my sis had my pin # in case of emergency. I was not happy and didn't use banks for a long time after that.

[induction]

Well why dont you show all of us where the "name calling and flame" FIRST started? Now remember the key word is FIRST then show to whom it was directed. Your reply will make for a littlt "crow pie" im shure that is if yor ego can stand it .lol

[Mr 5 0]

Calm down fella, your indignation is affecting your spelling.

If you or anyone else can read my initial post to you and call it 'flaming' or name-calling then you have a very warped idea of what those terms actually mean.

My post was carefully worded and civil in every respect. You apparently took the phrase 'finger-wagging' and have blown it up into some imagined insult, as some folks tend to do whenever a negative word is used about anything they say or do.

I'm sorry that you seem to be that sensitive to the mildest, most civil form of criticism. You must lead a sheltered life. Too bad.

I find it amusing - and ironic - that whenever I assert my prerogative to make a criticism of anything posted here, I'm constantly (and instantly) accused of 'ego'. Why? Is it 'ego' to have a point of view different from someone else and say so? Why is that? Enlighten me. Enlighten all of us, for that matter.

Meanwhile, I'm going out and will be offline until sometime Sunday P.M. While this contentious dialogue may be important to you, I find it tedious, as I'm sure others do too. In that light, you may want to contact me to call me names via PM, which I would appreciate, as this thread is getting pointless and unproductive.

Thanks.

[elliotness]

Okay,

So what were we talking about??????????

Oh yeah, BANKS.

Elliot Ness

[1BAD89]

I only read about the first 5 posts, and that sucks PKRWOOD, but I've been on the other end of that, so think how the other guy felt when he checked his bank account balance and he had no money. It's a shady deal all around.

[Unit 5302]

Perhaps this is a good time to tell Mr 5 0 that induction isn't a fella, but a girl?

Seriously though, what's your malfunction, induction? I can tell you right now that based on your posts here, you don't have a prayer of truely debating with many of the well informed members on the site. Your childish "I know you are, but what am I" posts are disrespectful of people who actually took the time to address your overly emotional responses. If you have a point to make, make it. Most adults can hardly stand dealing with the level of immaturity in your posts within this thread.

[ultraflo]

Another humorous thread...

You people make me laugh!!! (I live a sheltered life, though, thanks!)

As far as banks go, I feel your pain bro!! (keeping it simple)

Mr 5 0, "I'm dyin' over here!" (john travolta voice) ...lost for words and I'm sure you're not suprised!

-- still appreciate your input, though. Don't let that ego get the best of ya! Someone has to give you hell from time to time, challenge your intelect, whatever you wish to label it as. Broken english, bad english, ebonics... too much fun!

Regardless,
Samuel L. Jackson says "you a smart mother [expletive deleted]!!"

Ryan,
the xenophobe (you better know!)

[induction]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mr 5 0
[B]induction:



"Over the five years that I've been on this forum I've been accused of being a Nazi, having a dictator complex, thinking I know everything, refusing to debate someone's absurd argument, being arrogant, being stupid, having a big ego and many other variations on the same theme."

... well, obviously I've said enough (or not, howsoever my comments, or lack of, may be construed). As for not having a prayer of being able to debate with those of you who fall into the category of 'well-informed'... I really must take my (debating) hat off to an individual so obviously well informed as to be able to point out as miniscule a detail as spelling. During any situation, at any given time, we must ensure that we do not let ourselves forget the importance of a well-rounded education.

Mr. 5.0, your very own words speak quite loudly enough for themselves. As other well-informed people have been known to say: A THOUSAND FLIES CAN'T BE WRONG!

I sincerely hope that this, my last retort, is more suited to your 'forum'.

So, now... here's your chance to . . . be that person that you want us all to believe you are, the one who is clearly too much of an intellect to continue with posts that are now being described as little more than childish. Here's your chance to be the one to ...

LET IT GO ! ! !

[polara7777]

OK, correct me if I'm wrong. This is a Ford forum..why the hell is everyone letting everyone else get them stirred up over a thread about banks? Everyone is childish in this group!

Think about it...we all play with toys (more expensive ones granted), brag about our toys (can't tell me you never do eveyone does in one form or another), etc. Yes, I'm childish and immature I'll be the first one to admit but I also have fun in life. I know when to be mature and when I can horse around. Too many people here take everything too seriously! We're all here because we share one common interest, Mustangs.

Mr.5.0, I can understand how some people may be offended by some of your remarks. Chill out some man...everyone is going to have different opinions there are some times it's just better to nod and try to see where they're coming from. I'm not saying you have to agree by any means. It's just the way you phrase some things.

Induction, calm down some! I haven't been a member of this group long but I've been here long enough to see that no one is really trying to directly offend anyone. You also seem opinionated. Just listen and think about it some - don't let it tick you off.

To everyone, I'm very opinionated too but I also try to be as open-minded as possible. For the most part this is a great forum with wonderful people but it would be so much better if I didn't have to wade through arguments to read anything intresting.

Hey, if anyone needs to b*tch about anyone or vent heck, just PM me! I work as tech support for Gateway so I hear it all night anyway. Sometimes it would prolly be better just to vent to a bystander than post it out there. I'm on everyday if anyone wants to chat at all. Have a good one and remember think HAPPY thoughts!

P.S. You can find me as Polara7777 on AIM, AOL, Yahoo and MSN.

[ultraflo]

Allow me to retort

If any of us want to publicly vent, and maybe get a little frustrated in the process, I see nothing wrong with that. I'm not too terribly fond of people whispering behind each others back (figuratively speaking, of course). Just post it for everyone to read, everyone has their strengths and weaknesses, and not one person on this forum is perfect or "all-knowing".

Say what you need to say and be done with it... let it be known! We are here to learn from each others mistakes, and challenge one anothers opinions on different topics.

If we give each other hell from time to time, we learn more about each other, strengths and weakness, in time. I am an opinionated jerk sometimes, as can be any other person on this board. Flamboyant opinions, whether substantiated or illogical, get peoples attention... and then it's open discussion from there.

I am not a fan of political correctness, tell it like it is for our own sake... learn from a mistake!

The main idea is to not simply tell someone, "dude you ain't gotta clue" and go on your merry way... explain yourself to the best of your ability to make the other person understand where you are coming from. If they are upset with what you have to tell them, so be it. Let them think about it for awhile, and if they are a strong enough individual, they can either accept your constructive criticism or regress to childlike behavior (guilty) and start the name calling.

Have a sense of humor about it if at all possible, laugh it off...
And just wait for that individual that wants to tell you how much they know to make a mistake and give 'em hell. Have fun with it, and as easy as it is to get verbally nasty, try not to!

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah!!!!!!

LET IT GO? ...that would just be too easy!

So much "stuff" is f@*ked up because people just let things go...

...and yes, I am guilty. (basically, from what I can conclude, this forum consists of a collective group of bored individuals looking for something to pass the time).

There are many other forums that are technical in nature, this is the "talk about whatever you want to" forum...
please continue to do so.

If you've made it this far into my rambling, check out RLS Racing and tell me what you think. I will be adding more pictures sometime next week... laters!

[polara7777]

Yeah I can see that... but the arguments are also making people like induction leave. I think that's a little much. I perfectly agree everyone has their own opinions. (Opinions are like a**holes eveyone has one.) But can't we discuss ours and other people opinions maturely?
Have a sense of humor! HAHA You can't look like me and NOT have a sense of humor!
By the way damn fine looking stang! Good luck on the 10's.

[Mr 5 0]

O.K., this will be my last post on this particular thread, regardless of what anyone else posts from this point on. Enough already.

I'll give the courtesy of a response to those who posted to me, specifically, in reverse order.

Ultraflow:

I'm not bored. I have a full life, including a lovely wife and an active child. This website, specifically the forums, is a hobby for me and I enjoy it, when time permits.

I have opinions and I express them. I explain my position in a civil manner, defend it and attempt to pursuade others to my point of view, usually unsuccessfully, as most simply circle the wagons and fire off insults and defensive diatribes, as you've seen.

Having an articulated point of view that finds fault with another is usually always called 'ego' by the offended party. Why it's 'ego' to state a different position than another and defend it a civil manner is beyond me. I suspect it's sheer defensivness. Too bad but that's not a reason to abandon all rational thought when I see what I perceive to be a misguided or incorrect statement being posted here and respond to it.

polara7777:

This is a Mustang website but the Blue Oval Lounge is specifically intended for 'open' discussions, such as this one. I would like to think that we all have lives and opinions that transcend our cars. In order to be more than simply a 'car' site (and nothing more) we offer this forum, despite it's risks of generating controversy. Ironically, some of our biggest (aborted) flame wars have been over technical automotive issues,on the Windsor Power forum. Go figure.

I assume that everyone is equal here and I refuse to write 'down' to anyone. I write pretty much the way I talk and I apologize to no one for that, despite the vague complaints posted.

I do not think I know everything, by the way, and never indicated that attitude at any time. Some confuse an articulated POV with arrogance but that would be a misunderstanding of the difference between the two.

I do use some forms of irony and cynicism when I respond to a particularly foolish or insulting post addressed to me and I believe that's fair in a spirited dialogue, assuming cursing and swearing and name-calling in general is avoided in the process.

I have a fairly well-developed sense of humor and I've demonstrated it often on this forum, albeit sometimes in a muted, form of ironic satire or what I hoped was sly wit.

Unit:

Your post was perceptive and appreciated. Thanks for your contribution.

Induction:

Well, I've come to the end of the road with this rather silly misunderstanding. I'm sorry you were so upset by a simple reminder that we all have the option to vent here, that some folks do take things seriously and 'letting it go' is not the first option, although often the final one.

I attempted to engage you in a rational discussion which you chose to ignore in favor of emotional and incoherent messages. Very well, I'll certainly be glad to let this subject 'go' and I'll trust that you'll continue to post on the site, but perhaps with a bit more forethought. Perhaps not. That will be up to you, of course.

I'm tempted to simply close this thread at this point, as it seems to have run it's course, but in the interest of fairness and to avoid inevitible charges of being dictatorial, I'll leave it open for now although I won't post on this particular thread again.

Remember, I'm always available via PM and regular e-mail, should anyone have anything they wish to comment on (with me) that they would rather not post on the public board.

Thanks for the various inputs and the interest. Not sure what we actually learned here, but it was an interesting excerise in the First Amendment, if nothing else.

[todd95GT]

Immature, ridiculously juvenile members of this forum are the reason I really don't come here anymore.

I belong to a few work-related forum sites, and on said sites, if someone carries on like a baby like a certain member of this site, they are banned - plain and simple.

Mr. 5.0, you are obviously an intelligent, experienced ADULT. Why do you bother to entertain an egotistical child that shows his or her level of adeptness in the spelling and syntax usage of his or her posts? I wish the administrators would start using more extreme measures against some of those children.

Then again, I think the cop bashing, bank bashing, people bashing in general, is rather inappropriate for a Mustang site anyway. There are members of this site, including me, who have been pushed away from this site by the immature ramblings of some lesser educated and quite ignorant members.

Then again, we're talking about a group of people that bashes others based on a brand of vehicle they drive. Now that's the most absurd of them all. I could go on for great lengths about the stupidity I have read in some posts here, especially the ones that bash people based on their professions.

Suggestion for those people: if you don't like cops, don't call the police. If you don't like banks (not Chris, because that was obviously not the true intent of his post) stash your cash under your mattress, don't like cabbies, walk...and so on and so on.

[PKRWUD]

Forgive me for getting back to the topic of origin of this thread, but those jerks added a $5 "service charge" to my monthly statement because of their error!

Looks like I'll be on the phone correcting this one.

Take care,
-Chris

[Unit 5302]

Originally posted by todd95GT
...Suggestion for those people: if you don't like cops, don't call the police. If you don't like banks (not Chris, because that was obviously not the true intent of his post) stash your cash under your mattress, don't like cabbies, walk...and so on and so on.

You mean like, if you don't want to read topics that aren't related to cars, don't read them or don't go to the Blue Oval Lounge?

I am one of many members that spends a great deal of time in this forum. There is more than one aspect of my life, and as I've grown a little older, they've taken a back seat to some other things. I'm glad to have other topics around.

PKRWUD, I know that must have been a sickening feeling to have your hopes crushed, I've been trying to think of some way for you to get the cash you need. $15k.. maybe a credit card is all I've come up with so far.

The others, how did this simple thread get so far out of hand?? Mr. 5.0, I've been here as long as you if not longer and all this ego talk is beyond me. I don't remember anyone saying that but I'm sure that it does, most likely by people that are passing through. To me it was obvious that induction works for a bank from her response. Hey, I got it... I don't care for the crap I go through with banks either.. Its a legal scam. Banks make way too much money for what they do. The ATM fees are over zealous. Its a rip off... Induction is obviously an employee(correct me if I'm wrong). I work for UPS and I've heard some bitchin' through the years on that, I work my *** off and if something didn't go right then I'm sorry, but I sweat until the salt lines my shirt. Someone even called me a "Walking Turd" on 3 different occasions. I don't appreciate it, but I didn't respond to it. There really is nothing 'I' can do about it. Things go wrong and that is what I read in inductions post, though it was abit forward. People do make mistakes and the world turns on that, in my eyes. Things go wrong and that keeps the world turning.. think about that the next time you call a repair man.

As far as the folks here being bored, that struck a nerve with me. The people here are almost family! I respected the post right up to that point. These folks have been here a long long time, talking about mustangs(we all love them). Soooo we got to know each other.... bored?!?! (F'U)