Look ma, fabricated wheelie

Gautam · 07-02-2001, 08:34 PM

Hi,
Ok so I got bored and wanted to see if I
could really see the hydraulics makin the
Charger do the wheelie...

Ok, enough of The Fast and the Furious.

Bye!

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Gautam N. Lad
http://www.cubicdesign.com
http://www.cubicdesign.com/mustang/

joe4speed · 07-03-2001, 12:09 AM

Are the tires even really smokin there? it seems like the smoke is coming from the inside of the wheels like from a machine...

Kevin Price · 07-03-2001, 08:03 AM

How do you smoke the tires AND pop a wheelie at the same time?

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SVO siamesed 351 stroked to 417ci,Yates heads, solid roller,Trans King glide and a little blue bottle
of giggle gas. My Car

VNAMUS in VA · 07-03-2001, 11:00 AM

I know, right! I thought you needed traction for a wheelie....!

Foxtrot X-Ray · 07-03-2001, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kevin Price:
How do you smoke the tires AND pop a wheelie at the same time?

You don't.

Fox Body · 07-03-2001, 12:13 PM

Well hey, instead of warming up the slicks first and then doing a wheelie, why not just do 'em both at the same time???!!! WOW! a New improved racing style. WOW!

does it make me go "WOW" or "that's a bunch of crap!" I vote for the latter.

-----------------------------------------
'79 Mustang Coup w/ 4" Cowl
Stock 5.8L, C4 w/ shift kit
Holley 750 cfm, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake
1 5/8" MAC shorty headers, Al driveshaft
2.5" Off road H-pipe, 2-chamber Flowmasters
Front: 225/60/15, Rear: 255/60/15 Eagle GT II
Weld wheels (15x6;15x8), 8.8" Rear w/ 3.55s
14 x 4” K&N air filter (getting the Xtreme setup someday)

"Red, thou art my companion. Hasten now your quickened metamorphosis to
Green that I may conquer all who dare abide there beside me. May they be left
thither behind burnt black." ---Fox Body

btr · 07-03-2001, 02:31 PM

With what they spent making the charger look fast, they probably could have actually made it fast.

Mustank · 07-03-2001, 03:53 PM

if you watch very close like you can see the stunt driver wearing a yellow helmet as the charger is in the air fliping to land on its top!

stevstum · 07-03-2001, 07:05 PM

Man, you guys really burst my bubble. I thought the wheelie was for real. I was all pumped to see that a V8 car was whooping a$$ and it was just a freaking stunt. I really hate that movie now!

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Steve Stumbaugh

89 LX 5.0 5sp.
Removed air silencer
Motorcraft 8mm wires
Autolite platinum plugs
BBK O/R h-pipe

Fox Body · 07-03-2001, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stevstum:
.....I really hate that movie now!

LOL *a burst of uncontrollable laughter*

-----------------------------------------
'79 Mustang Coup w/ 4" Cowl
Stock 5.8L, C4 w/ shift kit
Holley 750 cfm, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake
1 5/8" MAC shorty headers, Al driveshaft
2.5" Off road H-pipe, 2-chamber Flowmasters
Front: 225/60/15, Rear: 255/60/15 Eagle GT II
Weld wheels (15x6;15x8), 8.8" Rear w/ 3.55s
14 x 4” K&N air filter (getting the Xtreme setup someday)

"Red, thou art my companion. Hasten now your quickened metamorphosis to
Green that I may conquer all who dare abide there beside me. May they be left
thither behind burnt black." ---Fox Body

joe4speed · 07-04-2001, 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by btr:
With what they spent making the charger look fast, they probably could have actually made it fast.

How true it is...

jonnyk · 07-04-2001, 11:07 AM

With all that money they spent making that movie, you think they could have made it realistic. Welcome to Hollywood.

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1991 LX Hatch 5.0L

Mercury · 07-04-2001, 11:28 AM

Man, that was my favorite part, I got goosebumps while watching that scene, now it ruined.

Now it just blows a$$.

If the blower would of been functional, I'm sure it would of pulled the front wheels up similar to that.

jimberg · 07-04-2001, 01:56 PM

That charger is only an 11 second car. Their web site admits it.

Mr 5 0 · 07-04-2001, 03:21 PM

Are we being a bit naive here, or what?

Look; any movie that features fast cars and racing - especially stunts - is going to be faked, just like everything else that comes out of Hollywood. Most everybody claimed to loooove 'Gone in Sixty Seconds' last year, but they used computer graphics for some of the more fantastic stunts in that movie! So what?
It was still fun to watch.

I readily agree that they could have simply used an honest-to-God 9-second blown big-block Mopar to get the same effect they got with hydraulics and smoke machines, but these scenes are very expensive (everybody working on the set gets about $100. per hour, not including the stunt guys/gals and the actors) and they want it done once and done right, with no chance for mistakes or any real danger to anyone (they have insurance guys that dictate how some of the stunts have to be performed).
This is why the stars very seldom get to do any serious driving - insurance clauses and legal roadblocks stop that every time.
It entertainment to us, but it's really a business and time is money, even in Hollywood.

So, they faked a wheelie and a burn-out (mutually exclusive anyway) and a lot of other things; it was still entertaining.
I didn't expect a documentary about racing, just a Hollywood movie about racing.
The fakery is just an aspect that you assume.
Sort of like what the WWF is to Olympic wrestling. Fun and entertaining and not worth getting too excited about, as I see it. Hey; it's only a movie.

#1 Pony · 07-04-2001, 05:37 PM

I want a mustang burnout/wheelie!!!

Gautam · 07-04-2001, 07:59 PM

Hi,
I still enjoyed the movie. I am not all against riced out cars; I still love some of them (RX-7, Eclipse, Supra).

And I hear a sequel is in the works. I have this gut feeling stangs (and other GM musclecars) will play a major role; afterall, domestics are ricer's arch enemies, and ricers hate stangers more then anything....that's just my observation anyhow...

Bye!

------------------
Gautam N. Lad
http://www.cubicdesign.com
http://www.cubicdesign.com/mustang/

69fastback · 07-04-2001, 10:45 PM

Sounds like this movie really sucks. Ppl that i talk say I have to go see this movie but I don't think I ever will. Put some mustangs in there and i might spend my hard earned money on it.

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69 428 cobra jet: tons of mods.
97 f-150 5.4 xlt mark III
BUCKLE UP. SUCK IT IN.
Objects in the mirror are about to disappear...
QUICKLY!!!!!!

Gautam · 07-05-2001, 09:19 AM

Hi,
I dunno, no offence but people who are hardcore musclecar junkies that don't wanna see the movie cuz its rice are just too shallow. I mean, c'mon, I drive a stang, and I hate ricers with a passion, but I'm not just a Ford Freak (although there is nothing wrong with that).

I have a taste for many different cars, and I saw the movie (and liked it) cuz of its action and cars (and to get a laugh out of seeing a few low powered imports act tough).

Bye!

------------------
Gautam N. Lad
http://www.cubicdesign.com
http://www.cubicdesign.com/mustang/

jimberg · 07-05-2001, 10:43 AM

I'm sorry, Guatum, no offense, but some people seem to be easily amused. If I were completely opposed to rice, I wouldn't have seen it at all. I was willing to set that aside in hopes of exciting driving scenes. They never came.

For example, in the previews they showed that exciting scene where the ricer crossed over under the truck. Guess what, they already did that neat stunt in the beginning of the movie. It was so unoriginal a movie that they duplicated stunts within the same movie.

It was a really bad movie slapped together in an attempt to cash in on the import craze.

Let's see. The big races:

The 4 car race where Brian loses his car. The flip up computer screens were hilarious, but the racing itself was dull.

The race with the Ferrari. Ooo, the guy in the Ferrari comments about what Brian can afford. Little did he know that the car Brian had that was blown up on that first race night was more expensive than the Ferrari but was a lot slower.

The race between Dom's chick and that guy wanting to race for sex. Time filler at best.

The race between Jesse and the murderous villain with 100k under the hood for a "10 second" car. The classic moron line of the movie occurred when Jesse hits his turbo boost/nitrous button - The villain proclaims that Jesse hit it too soon and then hits his to win.

The final race between Dom and Brian. Classic muscle vs. ricer. This was the best race, I think, which is good since it was the climax. It wasn't the best because we were concerned about who would win, but whether or not Dom would pull a Vanishing Point. Previews pretty much nixed the suspense, though, since we know he flipped the car so couldn't be hit by the train.

Wouldn't it have been better if everything ended up in a showdown between Dom and the villain? Dom in the Charger and the villain in his 100k ricer? Yes, predictable, but sometimes attempts to be unpredictable just ruin the movie.

Like I've said before in the other thread. If you replaced every ricer with a Mustang and eliminated all of the technical flaws, it would still be a really, really bad movie.

I am taking names of people who actually liked this movie so that I can be sure not to heed any of their movie recommendations.

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07-02-2001, 08:34 PM	#1
Gautam Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Brampton, ON, Canada Posts: 298	Look ma, fabricated wheelie Hi, Ok so I got bored and wanted to see if I could really see the hydraulics makin the Charger do the wheelie... Ok, enough of The Fast and the Furious. Bye! ------------------ Gautam N. Lad http://www.cubicdesign.com http://www.cubicdesign.com/mustang/

07-03-2001, 12:09 AM	#2
joe4speed He said Member...heh, heh Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Jupiter, Florida U.S.A. Posts: 3,718	Are the tires even really smokin there? it seems like the smoke is coming from the inside of the wheels like from a machine...

07-03-2001, 08:03 AM	#3
Kevin Price Registered Member Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Oxford, KS Posts: 935	How do you smoke the tires AND pop a wheelie at the same time? ------------------ SVO siamesed 351 stroked to 417ci,Yates heads, solid roller,Trans King glide and a little blue bottle of giggle gas. My Car

07-03-2001, 11:00 AM	#4
VNAMUS in VA Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Reston, Virginia, USA Posts: 134	I know, right! I thought you needed traction for a wheelie....!

07-03-2001, 12:13 PM	#6
Fox Body Mustang Maniac Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: GA, U.S.A Posts: 2,266	Well hey, instead of warming up the slicks first and then doing a wheelie, why not just do 'em both at the same time???!!! WOW! a New improved racing style. WOW! does it make me go "WOW" or "that's a bunch of crap!" I vote for the latter. ----------------------------------------- '79 Mustang Coup w/ 4" Cowl Stock 5.8L, C4 w/ shift kit Holley 750 cfm, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake 1 5/8" MAC shorty headers, Al driveshaft 2.5" Off road H-pipe, 2-chamber Flowmasters Front: 225/60/15, Rear: 255/60/15 Eagle GT II Weld wheels (15x6;15x8), 8.8" Rear w/ 3.55s 14 x 4” K&N air filter (getting the Xtreme setup someday) "Red, thou art my companion. Hasten now your quickened metamorphosis to Green that I may conquer all who dare abide there beside me. May they be left thither behind burnt black." ---Fox Body

07-03-2001, 02:31 PM	#7
btr Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Mandan, ND USA Posts: 184	With what they spent making the charger look fast, they probably could have actually made it fast.

07-03-2001, 03:53 PM	#8
Mustank Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: ny Posts: 5	if you watch very close like you can see the stunt driver wearing a yellow helmet as the charger is in the air fliping to land on its top!

07-03-2001, 07:05 PM	#9
stevstum Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Salem, Or. USA Posts: 233	Man, you guys really burst my bubble. I thought the wheelie was for real. I was all pumped to see that a V8 car was whooping a$$ and it was just a freaking stunt. I really hate that movie now! ------------------ Steve Stumbaugh 89 LX 5.0 5sp. Removed air silencer Motorcraft 8mm wires Autolite platinum plugs BBK O/R h-pipe

07-04-2001, 11:07 AM	#12
jonnyk Being stroked is great Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 772	With all that money they spent making that movie, you think they could have made it realistic. Welcome to Hollywood. ------------------ 1991 LX Hatch 5.0L

07-04-2001, 11:28 AM	#13
Mercury The Redneck James Bond Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Fayetteville NC Posts: 1,707	Man, that was my favorite part, I got goosebumps while watching that scene, now it ruined. Now it just blows a$$. If the blower would of been functional, I'm sure it would of pulled the front wheels up similar to that.

07-04-2001, 01:56 PM	#14
jimberg Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Rogers, MN Posts: 2,089	That charger is only an 11 second car. Their web site admits it.

07-04-2001, 03:21 PM	#15
Mr 5 0 Conservative Individualist Join Date: May 1997 Location: Wherever I need to be Posts: 7,487	Are we being a bit naive here, or what? Look; any movie that features fast cars and racing - especially stunts - is going to be faked, just like everything else that comes out of Hollywood. Most everybody claimed to loooove 'Gone in Sixty Seconds' last year, but they used computer graphics for some of the more fantastic stunts in that movie! So what? It was still fun to watch. I readily agree that they could have simply used an honest-to-God 9-second blown big-block Mopar to get the same effect they got with hydraulics and smoke machines, but these scenes are very expensive (everybody working on the set gets about $100. per hour, not including the stunt guys/gals and the actors) and they want it done once and done right, with no chance for mistakes or any real danger to anyone (they have insurance guys that dictate how some of the stunts have to be performed). This is why the stars very seldom get to do any serious driving - insurance clauses and legal roadblocks stop that every time. It entertainment to us, but it's really a business and time is money, even in Hollywood. So, they faked a wheelie and a burn-out (mutually exclusive anyway) and a lot of other things; it was still entertaining. I didn't expect a documentary about racing, just a Hollywood movie about racing. The fakery is just an aspect that you assume. Sort of like what the WWF is to Olympic wrestling. Fun and entertaining and not worth getting too excited about, as I see it. Hey; it's only a movie.

07-04-2001, 05:37 PM	#16
#1 Pony Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 268	I want a mustang burnout/wheelie!!!

07-04-2001, 07:59 PM	#17
Gautam Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Brampton, ON, Canada Posts: 298	Hi, I still enjoyed the movie. I am not all against riced out cars; I still love some of them (RX-7, Eclipse, Supra). And I hear a sequel is in the works. I have this gut feeling stangs (and other GM musclecars) will play a major role; afterall, domestics are ricer's arch enemies, and ricers hate stangers more then anything....that's just my observation anyhow... Bye! ------------------ Gautam N. Lad http://www.cubicdesign.com http://www.cubicdesign.com/mustang/

07-04-2001, 10:45 PM	#18
69fastback IRAQ VET Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: high desert California Posts: 1,480	Sounds like this movie really sucks. Ppl that i talk say I have to go see this movie but I don't think I ever will. Put some mustangs in there and i might spend my hard earned money on it. ------------------ 69 428 cobra jet: tons of mods. 97 f-150 5.4 xlt mark III BUCKLE UP. SUCK IT IN. Objects in the mirror are about to disappear... QUICKLY!!!!!!

07-05-2001, 09:19 AM	#19
Gautam Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Brampton, ON, Canada Posts: 298	Hi, I dunno, no offence but people who are hardcore musclecar junkies that don't wanna see the movie cuz its rice are just too shallow. I mean, c'mon, I drive a stang, and I hate ricers with a passion, but I'm not just a Ford Freak (although there is nothing wrong with that). I have a taste for many different cars, and I saw the movie (and liked it) cuz of its action and cars (and to get a laugh out of seeing a few low powered imports act tough). Bye! ------------------ Gautam N. Lad http://www.cubicdesign.com http://www.cubicdesign.com/mustang/

07-05-2001, 10:43 AM	#20
jimberg Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Rogers, MN Posts: 2,089	I'm sorry, Guatum, no offense, but some people seem to be easily amused. If I were completely opposed to rice, I wouldn't have seen it at all. I was willing to set that aside in hopes of exciting driving scenes. They never came. For example, in the previews they showed that exciting scene where the ricer crossed over under the truck. Guess what, they already did that neat stunt in the beginning of the movie. It was so unoriginal a movie that they duplicated stunts within the same movie. It was a really bad movie slapped together in an attempt to cash in on the import craze. Let's see. The big races: The 4 car race where Brian loses his car. The flip up computer screens were hilarious, but the racing itself was dull. The race with the Ferrari. Ooo, the guy in the Ferrari comments about what Brian can afford. Little did he know that the car Brian had that was blown up on that first race night was more expensive than the Ferrari but was a lot slower. The race between Dom's chick and that guy wanting to race for sex. Time filler at best. The race between Jesse and the murderous villain with 100k under the hood for a "10 second" car. The classic moron line of the movie occurred when Jesse hits his turbo boost/nitrous button - The villain proclaims that Jesse hit it too soon and then hits his to win. The final race between Dom and Brian. Classic muscle vs. ricer. This was the best race, I think, which is good since it was the climax. It wasn't the best because we were concerned about who would win, but whether or not Dom would pull a Vanishing Point. Previews pretty much nixed the suspense, though, since we know he flipped the car so couldn't be hit by the train. Wouldn't it have been better if everything ended up in a showdown between Dom and the villain? Dom in the Charger and the villain in his 100k ricer? Yes, predictable, but sometimes attempts to be unpredictable just ruin the movie. Like I've said before in the other thread. If you replaced every ricer with a Mustang and eliminated all of the technical flaws, it would still be a really, really bad movie. I am taking names of people who actually liked this movie so that I can be sure not to heed any of their movie recommendations.