I'm pissed. Embarrassed too.

6T9PONY · 08-07-2001, 10:51 PM

Well......I know this one guy, 99 GT, 5-spd, black, Bullitt wheels, but other than that, perfectly stock. No mufflers, gutted cats, nothing. Anyways....there is another guy, that I don't know, that has a 2001 Grand Prix SE. Perfectly stock. Just like off the lot. They set up a race. I bet 5 bucks on the Stang figuring this was going to be pathetic. Knowing that there are a few cars like Lizard Kings running 13.6s, but I figured he's be at least 14.0. This guy with the Stang can drive too, I've ridden with him before, and it was pretty sweet. He powershifts everything but 1-2.

The Grand Prix won. 2 out of 3 times. I didn't see the race. But the guys who did said the Stang didn't spin much at all. And he got the GP off the line, but the thing just pulled about 1/2 a car the 2 times it won. And the Stang had a nose on him the time it won. That pisses me off. Not that I lost 5 bucks...but that he lost to a damn stock Grand Prix.

That blows...

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Previously "BennyBoy"
'69 Coupe with 351W
Edelbrock RPM intake, Edelbrock RPM cam, Edelbrock 750 cfm carb, Hedman headers, 2 1/2" pipe, glasspacks, C4, 9" Currie: Trac-Lok 3.70s, 290hp-stock heads

Unit 5302 · 08-08-2001, 12:19 AM

Don't know what to tell you when a 200hp 3500lb car that runs 15's beats a 260hp car that runs a 14 flat.

Somethings not quite right with that pic. Especially about the SE running him down.

RAGE_5.0 · 08-08-2001, 12:59 PM

i think it was fixed just so they could steal ur money from u and become rich

u gotta be more careful when it comes to betting becasue it is very easy to get scammed especially in races

lol.....i'm just jokin
i think maybe u should inspect the grand prix again make sure he ain't spraying or running sumthing u don't know about
JAMES

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Black 1990 gt cobra bonestock
not for long

dinomite · 08-08-2001, 01:01 PM

ya, there is something definently wrong there. are you sure the GPSE doesn't have spray or something? Or might your friend have something trapped in his intake/airbox? leaves, trash, children, ferile cat?

[This message has been edited by dinomite (edited 08-08-2001).]

Rev · 08-08-2001, 06:36 PM

That's what I think too. I bet there's a blue bottle hiding somewhere.

Rev

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'66 Coupe, 306, 300 HP, C-4, 13.97 e.t., 100.3 mph
1/4 mi.

GONZO99TA · 08-08-2001, 08:32 PM

you sure it was a grand prix se and not a gtp with maybe a pulley to up the boost? the se comes standard with a 3.1L v6 that is well under 200hp you have option to get the 3800.

you would have to be a reallllllly piss poor driver to lose that race.

LincoConti87 · 08-09-2001, 12:41 AM

That guy had to have been spraying...stock for stock a 99+mustang with V6 would be faster wouldn't it?

gt-hunter · 08-09-2001, 12:52 PM

Dude, the one thing I've learned in street racing is that EVERYBODY is "stock". I don't care if you roll up with your car on a trailer and can barely keep it running while you stage...IT'S STILL STOCK...I SWEAR So that dude was spraying or something but there's no way that even a GTP could beat a 2000GT stock for stock. Hell there's no way a 2000 GTP could beat an SN95 GT stock for stock.

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1999 Z28 M6 Arctic White, MTI-Clear Lid w/K&N, FTRA system, B&B Triflo, BMR STB, Pro 5.0 Power Tower, 160 Powerstat, HPP3, Harlan shift light, TB Coolant bypass, Ported MAF, Accel 9000 Extreme wires, NGK TR-6s, Redline Synthetic Lubricants, K&N oil filter,
BEST E.T. 13.27 @ 106.39, 2.022 60'(n/a on street tires)
323.1rwhp, 333.9 rwtq n/a

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Mercury · 08-09-2001, 01:13 PM

Ummmmm That part about the early SN-95's stock for stock (94-95 GT's and 96-98 GT 4.6's) that is not entirely true. Before I got my 2000 GT, when my dad was down visiting from PA, I would always drive his car on REAL hot days (Old Mustang...No AC) to work or to the mall and all.

I've raced several early SN-95's with my dads GTP (98) and won. Lost two 2 of them. 0-60 it was USUALLY all GTP, but around 70-75, the GTP just kinda starts falling on itself. Now a stock GTP vs. the 99+, thats another story!

I've handed my dad his butt both times we raced.

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64 1/2 "D" code Red Mustang Coupe. 289, C4, Mallory duel point. Ported & Polished 65 heads shaved .01 with 351 valves, 11:1 comp, 1.7:1 rockers, blue wolverine lumpy cam, modified 4100 Hipo 4 barrel. GT Apperance pkg. And to many others to list

2000 Perf Red Mustang GT. 5spd. BBK Underdrive pulleys, Flotech off-road H pipe. Hurst T-Handle, 40 series Flowmasters, Steeda Tri-Ax
64 1/2 red 6cyl coupe. Future resto.

Rev · 08-11-2001, 10:20 PM

I raced a '99 Buick Regal with that same supercharged 3800 V-6 as the GTP. This was at the track and I talked to him afterwards. He had a smaller pulley on it too. He ran 14.7 (mph unknown) to my 13.98. You'd have to work at it to lose to one of those in a '99 GT.

Rev

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'66 Coupe, 306, 300 HP, C-4, 13.97 e.t., 100.3 mph
1/4 mi.

08-14-2001, 03:38 AM

I HAVE A STOCK 2000 GT AND HAVE YET TO GET BEAT BY A GUMP MOTOR CO PIECE OF SHEIT MY LITTLE 69 GRANDE 302 30 OVER ALUMINUM SLUGS HEADERS & 2 BARREL HAS SMOCKED SOME BLOWTIE BUTT TOO SO THE GUY CHEATED SOME HOW BETTER LUCK NEXT TIME

08-07-2001, 10:51 PM	#1
6T9PONY All about the Windsor. Join Date: Feb 2000 Posts: 2,052	I'm pissed. Embarrassed too. Well......I know this one guy, 99 GT, 5-spd, black, Bullitt wheels, but other than that, perfectly stock. No mufflers, gutted cats, nothing. Anyways....there is another guy, that I don't know, that has a 2001 Grand Prix SE. Perfectly stock. Just like off the lot. They set up a race. I bet 5 bucks on the Stang figuring this was going to be pathetic. Knowing that there are a few cars like Lizard Kings running 13.6s, but I figured he's be at least 14.0. This guy with the Stang can drive too, I've ridden with him before, and it was pretty sweet. He powershifts everything but 1-2. The Grand Prix won. 2 out of 3 times. I didn't see the race. But the guys who did said the Stang didn't spin much at all. And he got the GP off the line, but the thing just pulled about 1/2 a car the 2 times it won. And the Stang had a nose on him the time it won. That pisses me off. Not that I lost 5 bucks...but that he lost to a damn stock Grand Prix. That blows... ------------------ Previously "BennyBoy" '69 Coupe with 351W Edelbrock RPM intake, Edelbrock RPM cam, Edelbrock 750 cfm carb, Hedman headers, 2 1/2" pipe, glasspacks, C4, 9" Currie: Trac-Lok 3.70s, 290hp-stock heads

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08-08-2001, 12:19 AM	#2
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	Don't know what to tell you when a 200hp 3500lb car that runs 15's beats a 260hp car that runs a 14 flat. Somethings not quite right with that pic. Especially about the SE running him down.

08-08-2001, 12:59 PM	#3
RAGE_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Leamington, Ontario, Canada Posts: 767	i think it was fixed just so they could steal ur money from u and become rich u gotta be more careful when it comes to betting becasue it is very easy to get scammed especially in races lol.....i'm just jokin i think maybe u should inspect the grand prix again make sure he ain't spraying or running sumthing u don't know about JAMES ------------------ Black 1990 gt cobra bonestock not for long

08-08-2001, 01:01 PM	#4
dinomite The Dude Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 1,262	ya, there is something definently wrong there. are you sure the GPSE doesn't have spray or something? Or might your friend have something trapped in his intake/airbox? leaves, trash, children, ferile cat? [This message has been edited by dinomite (edited 08-08-2001).]

08-08-2001, 06:36 PM	#5
Rev Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Houston, Tx. Posts: 3,887	That's what I think too. I bet there's a blue bottle hiding somewhere. Rev ------------------ '66 Coupe, 306, 300 HP, C-4, 13.97 e.t., 100.3 mph 1/4 mi.

08-08-2001, 08:32 PM	#6
GONZO99TA Registered Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Great Falls, MT Posts: 144	you sure it was a grand prix se and not a gtp with maybe a pulley to up the boost? the se comes standard with a 3.1L v6 that is well under 200hp you have option to get the 3800. you would have to be a reallllllly piss poor driver to lose that race.

08-09-2001, 12:41 AM	#7
LincoConti87 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Tallahassee,Florida,USA Posts: 188	That guy had to have been spraying...stock for stock a 99+mustang with V6 would be faster wouldn't it?

08-09-2001, 12:52 PM	#8
gt-hunter Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Weston, Florida USA Posts: 115	Dude, the one thing I've learned in street racing is that EVERYBODY is "stock". I don't care if you roll up with your car on a trailer and can barely keep it running while you stage...IT'S STILL STOCK...I SWEAR So that dude was spraying or something but there's no way that even a GTP could beat a 2000GT stock for stock. Hell there's no way a 2000 GTP could beat an SN95 GT stock for stock. ------------------ 1999 Z28 M6 Arctic White, MTI-Clear Lid w/K&N, FTRA system, B&B Triflo, BMR STB, Pro 5.0 Power Tower, 160 Powerstat, HPP3, Harlan shift light, TB Coolant bypass, Ported MAF, Accel 9000 Extreme wires, NGK TR-6s, Redline Synthetic Lubricants, K&N oil filter, BEST E.T. 13.27 @ 106.39, 2.022 60'(n/a on street tires) 323.1rwhp, 333.9 rwtq n/a [i]If we are to accept the fact that Con is the opposite of Pro, then it would also serve to assume that Congress i

08-09-2001, 01:13 PM	#9
Mercury The Redneck James Bond Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Fayetteville NC Posts: 1,707	Ummmmm That part about the early SN-95's stock for stock (94-95 GT's and 96-98 GT 4.6's) that is not entirely true. Before I got my 2000 GT, when my dad was down visiting from PA, I would always drive his car on REAL hot days (Old Mustang...No AC) to work or to the mall and all. I've raced several early SN-95's with my dads GTP (98) and won. Lost two 2 of them. 0-60 it was USUALLY all GTP, but around 70-75, the GTP just kinda starts falling on itself. Now a stock GTP vs. the 99+, thats another story! I've handed my dad his butt both times we raced. ------------------ 64 1/2 "D" code Red Mustang Coupe. 289, C4, Mallory duel point. Ported & Polished 65 heads shaved .01 with 351 valves, 11:1 comp, 1.7:1 rockers, blue wolverine lumpy cam, modified 4100 Hipo 4 barrel. GT Apperance pkg. And to many others to list 2000 Perf Red Mustang GT. 5spd. BBK Underdrive pulleys, Flotech off-road H pipe. Hurst T-Handle, 40 series Flowmasters, Steeda Tri-Ax 64 1/2 red 6cyl coupe. Future resto.

08-11-2001, 10:20 PM	#10
Rev Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Houston, Tx. Posts: 3,887	I raced a '99 Buick Regal with that same supercharged 3800 V-6 as the GTP. This was at the track and I talked to him afterwards. He had a smaller pulley on it too. He ran 14.7 (mph unknown) to my 13.98. You'd have to work at it to lose to one of those in a '99 GT. Rev ------------------ '66 Coupe, 306, 300 HP, C-4, 13.97 e.t., 100.3 mph 1/4 mi.

08-14-2001, 03:38 AM	#11
mustang marty gt Guest Posts: n/a	I HAVE A STOCK 2000 GT AND HAVE YET TO GET BEAT BY A GUMP MOTOR CO PIECE OF SHEIT MY LITTLE 69 GRANDE 302 30 OVER ALUMINUM SLUGS HEADERS & 2 BARREL HAS SMOCKED SOME BLOWTIE BUTT TOO SO THE GUY CHEATED SOME HOW BETTER LUCK NEXT TIME