Just thought I'd mention it...
 

I just noticed that everyone's post count is gone. So for all u post hoes(me as a reformed one) it does nothing to your count.

The post count is still there you just have to look in your profile for it. I kinda liked it because it kinda tells who has more experience here for when new people come thinking they know everything when they really dont. But it isnt my decision and im not leaving :D Just my 2 cents

Later,
Nick

Right after I posted this message(well, the last one) I too, double checked my profile, and yes, it is still there, u are right. But I wonder for how long?

I doubt they will do away with that. I think he just turned off the diplay option for the counts. The way it stands, if you really want to know someones count, you can find out. It just takes away the constant reminder.

Deuce is correct. We want to de-emphasize the importance of post count, as post count does not equate to experience/knowledge/trust/anything else. If many of a person's posts are just "LOL" type stuff or general jibber-jabber, how does that make them more experienced or knowledgeable? Well, it doesn't. We are also hoping this decreases the types of posts that are just made for no other reason than just to be in a post count competition...

If someone wants a sense of accomplishment from posting, they shouldn't look for it in their post count. Instead, they should get this from knowing they are helping fellow enthusiasts and members, making friends, and adding to the quality of the site and its community with quality content. ;)

Don't get me wrong. We are in no way discouraging our members from posting, but we want posts to mean something more than simply racking up a counter.

Dan's correct. We have had too many post *****'s on this site. Most people are in a post competition to see who's the "king" :rolleyes: Most people around here just post meaningless posts. Just because someone has 6000 posts o more doesn't mean that their the smartest or the most knowledgeable..it just means that they might have too much time on their hands.lol

C-c-c-changes
 

Change is good. We'll all survive, I'm certain.

I contend that if, after a week or less browsing the Mustang Works messageboards, a newbie doesn't recognize who the knowledgable, helpful, friendly members are as well as who the idiots are just by looking at the member's name, they aren't paying any attention - or just don't care.

Registration date is helpful and the actual post count is still available just by clicking on the profile button for any specific member so little is lost here except - hopefully - a lot of meaningless posts submitted mostly to help increase a number. For the few who did this: oh well. For the rest of us, not a real big deal.

Re: C-c-c-changes
 

If that's how you really feel, than why did you go from 5k to zero to 7k in a couple weeks.

Okay, Eric, since as of this morning, I was the only person with over 6k posts, I'll have to assume you're talking about me, and if that's how you feel, than screw you. I've given up more of my time helping people here over the last 3+ years than anyone else that I'm aware of, but if that defines a post ho, and you consider them "meaningless", than screw it. At least those I help are nice enough to say thanks.

C-ya

Chris, you're getting excited about something trivial. Jim actually ZERO'd his post count out days ago as an experiment just to see if anyone would even notice... And, no one really did. When I removed the post counts from the forums, "I" changed his post count back. I couldn't remember exactly what his count was, so I just stuck it at 7000.

Is that really a big deal?

Umm..did anybody Mention your name Chris???? I don't think so. And why are you so defensive over something so stupid?

I've noticed that some try to boost thier post count and I just don't look at those threads and didn't realize it was this much of a problem. It really doesn't mean too much to me what my post count is, never did really. I can see, however, how it can give a sense of belonging to the messageboard to some members. I think it really means alot to some of the members..

I kind of like the post count. But I don't come here because I have a bunch of posts, I come here because I love the content.

I can't believe this, I spent all this time padding my post count to a staggering 37 and now no one's going to be able to see how much time I wasted typing about nothing. :rolleyes: I'm used to seeing the post count but not having it doesn't bother me, just meaningless numbers.

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LOL! I didn't even notice it was gone.....till now. :rolleyes: Personally I liked it, but theres more to life than post quotas..Not that I wont post when I hit 2500 or so! :D
But, if anyone ever wants to see where they stand, they just have to go to the Members and look at the Posting totals..no biggie. TNT

post counts dont mean nothing to me. i could care less. what i do like to stay here is registration date. so far, so good!

CHRIS! relax man! everybody loves you! u da biggest ho here!:D :p :eek:

if i cant post *****, i guess ill hafta go back to the streets to just plain *****....:( oh well..hehe...

and dan - I noticed Jim's post count disappeared on the day it did...i just didn't say anything about it....i lurk the shadows...mwuaha....yet i post *****? uh oh....lol...those canadians are always messed up, eh? :D

all in all...post counting was more or less harmless, but it was turning into a posting-burlesque house around here...hehe...me included *hangs head in shame*....oh well...means we dont have to "apologize" for typing posts like "lol" or "!!" anymore...so maybe we'll start to see more and more people giving personal reactions to things and well watch the site expand....gotta love murphy and his law, turns everything into a box of chocolates!

You guys talk alot about post competitions and post ho's but i never really saw much evidence of this. Especially not lately. I mean the people on this site are no where near how the people are on other boards. Especially www.off-topic.net. I know that forum is different as its just basically for BS but if you wanna see Post hos go there.

Just like I said before I did like the count thing but Im not going anywhere. It is good that the registration date is there though.

Later,
Nick

:rolleyes:

Im glad you did it. There was too much garbage out there. Hopefully this will help clean it up.

Great idea!

Dan,

Would it be possible to add a feature that allows users to mark a post as useful in only the technical forums? Nothing more or less than that. Then you could rate a user based on how useful other people find their posts. I'm sure that Chris will rate very high in that respect. You could also use the same information to have a list of posts that are found to be the most useful. It may actually develop to be an automatically generated FAQ. Just an idea.

jimberg - I think your idea, in theory, is good. However, we already have the 'star' rating system thingy and it seems to be used very infrequently. :(

E

It's not gonna clear up jack crap. I see a lot of people talking about SOOO many people posting just to rack up a post count. I've only seen that from one memeber and he's stoped now. If anyone knows of anymore just PM me. Perhaps your refering to some posts that Me, Marty, Chris, and other's made, where we were just goofing off. Well hey guess what boys and girls, taking away post count isn't gonna change jack sqat about that. I can't speak for Marty or Chris, but me doing stuff like goofing off and making cracks on the fourm will continue because that's the way I am in real life. I act on the forum simmilary to the way I do in real life. If you consider some of my posts "garbage" then too bad, so sad.

No offense to you intended Mach.

Rating posts
 

jimberg:

Thanks for the input.

Rather than increase competition for some sort of subjective rating that places one member above another based on a vague criteria of their posts 'usefulness' I would prefer to allow individual members to simply make their own judgements on any members posts based on what they see for themself. We don't need popularity contests and no matter how you try to structure it, marking posts as 'useful' is akin to doing just that.

As Eric stated, we have the 'star rating' system and it's infrequently used, as you know.
I'm sure everyone is aware of PKRWUD's expertise and trust his advice. I do. Same with a few other members; one builds a reputation here and that should be the main basis of judgement, as I see it. Popularity contests are not trustworthy guides to anyones expertise.

I said "hopefully" clean it up. What I mean is that it could help eliminate some of the posts just to get a post count. I dont expect people to stop being themselves and saying what they feel, and dont expect a drastic change in "garbage posts", just think it will help eliminate some wasted space....not much, but some. It might not affect anything..but the reason it was done is for the reasons I mentioned..to stop the "post war", and therefore I think its a good idea.

I could care less either way....The losers will still stick out like an import in a drag race.

jimberg - what you are describing will be supported in the future version of vBulletin 3.0, which is now in development and alpha testing. It has a system built into it called, "Karma" ratings. It allows members to "rate" other members on the forums. In essence, I would guess that it is kind of like how you can rate sellers on eBay or even rate posts here now with star ratings. All the member input is probably averaged together to come up with each person Karma rating.

I will definitely upgrade the forums to 3.0 when it becomes publically available. At that time we'll (the staff) will evaluate the system and decide whether we are going to use it. It just depends actually how it works and how useful the ratings meaning is. Any ways, other features coming include (pulled this from vBulletin's site):

This is by no means exhaustive, and should not be regarded as perfectly accurate: not everything was recorded in the todo and some things were changed too.

Added Features:

--to the user interface

General

* Quick registration system...username, password, email and any required custom fields and timezone
* Pop-up auto-refreshing buddylist with ICQ-style alerts when new buddies come online. You'll find a link in the temp buttons top right in the nav bar.
* Show the title of the last posted to thread for each forum on index.php
* Subscription to Threads/Forum without receiving e-mails
* Favorite threads - you don't get email from these either.
* User rating - Karma
* User ranking
* Password break-in watches -- too many failed attempts warning with a preset wait after too many failures.
* Threaded view
* Password protected forums
* Similar threads display
* Send an email "thanks for registering and welcome to .." on user registration (welcome email)
* Validity check for homepages
* Search engine friendly archive of open forums
* Happy b'day emails
* Much improved calander system (too many changes to mention)
* hit counter on announcements
* Digests: new posts/threads in selected forums daily/weekly/monthly
* "excerpt of message:" are now in the new reply email notifications
* 'report post to mod' sends anonymous copy to the original poster of the message
* Restyled FAQ section now looks similar to a forum


Posting


* WYSIWYG Editor for major text input fields (IE 5.5+Only)
* Minimum number of characters in post
* Insert smilie/vB code where cursor is (IE 5+ Only)
* Preview on edit
* Ability to add attachment when editing a post instead of just when creating
* Reason for editing
* Reason for deleting(for admins and mods)



User CP - Profile

* User Pictures - user can upload a personal picture. This picture is shown in the profile of the user.
* Completely revamped PM system (currently in work)
* Longer signature field with optional limit


Search

* Get daily for just one category
* Search only in subscribed forums
* A list of ignored words or words used in a search are added to the results page
* Option to find only started by 'username'
* Display matching forums in results
* Support for searching custom profile fields
* Search for exact username (e.g. turn off wildcards)


Polls

* Option for users to see who voted for which option (public vote)
* When you vote your name is highlighted when viewing results
* Poll results ordered by most to less voted
* Ability to post a poll AFTER a thread had started


Usability

* Hitting the back button no longer necessary when you have too many images
* Option to save cookie *on this computer* when logging in
* Login/logout ability in all pages, with user/pass form -- single login system

Yep! I'm GLAD that MWers act on the boards how they do in real life...*shudder* can you imagine if the Corral was that way??? Lock most of the regulars in a room all day, and 80% will murder each other within 48 hours :D. I appreciate the silliness of our members, and those who don't (you know who you are) I hope you'll decide to leave soon :) after the "filth" just becomes unbearable *sob*

I've just learned to tune out the people that piss and moan about garbage posts, because hey...isn't that really a matter of opinion?? :confused: The best ones are the "losers" that complain about worthless threads, then contribute on the next silly one...you really can't win either way with these people, its best to pretend they aren't there, or even better---utilize your IGNORE function! :D

I'm sorry, but that response is just plain wrong. Whether he overreacted or not, Chris deserves more respect than that. I would sure think MW expects more from their moderators, but maybe not. :mad:

In the suggestion category, I would like to see more emphasis put on searching previous threads. Alot of questions have been answered time and time again. I think its kind of silly to have 2 "How do I check my TPS" threads going at once, when a simple search would bring up several threads explaining exactly how to do it.

Andy

I still want my custom text...I have nearly 600(or more...not sure really) so I should be able to have custom text under my name....600 posts for a guy who doesn't own a mustang on a mustang message board is a hell of a lot!!!

Is a Spell check option still in the works?

I agree.

The only reason why I even noticed that post count gone was the fact like ppl here like RBatson who didn't have pic avatar, I noticed that the writing was too small in that space. When I looked at it closer, thats when I noticed.

Hey Mach 1, is that a Pantra that I see in your avatar?!?

well...
 

I for one enjoyed the post count. I haven't seen many post wh0res around here in my travels, so I can't comment on that. I do know this... I have been here for quite awhile and when the board got reset or whatever happened, I lost all 1300 of my posts. Now I have like less than 100 I think. I don't care if people judge me by my post count because I don't post unless I have something relevant to say. My number will never be really high because I am too busy to post 20x a day. In any case, if it ever comes to a vote I'd like to have the counter back on the messages.

Bob

Why yes, it is a Pantera. I want one.....now!

Every now and then , I see one for sale. I also saw one at a car show, man I was so happy. But I havn't seen one like the one in your avatar up close yet.

I had the change to race one down the highway back in 90 or 91. It wasn't that fast and boy did it stink up the highway. It looked real cool, though.

Stink up the highway?:confused: What, did it run bad or something?:confused:

It was running really rich at WOT and emitted some serious, eye-watering fumes. My Mustang was stock and we pretty much stayed even.

I believe the one in my avatar is specially moddified for racing. Your average Pantera doesnt look like that.

I have a personal love for the 351 Clevland with closed chamber 4v heads. Awesome engine with awesome potential, and to have it in a car like the pantera, in mid engine format, well, lets just say I would love to have one.

As far as being "stinky", probably because of the no emmissions, catilytic converters, poorly tuned, etc...
If Jimberg could hang with one in a stock mustang, you can count on it being poorly tuned or in need of an overhaul.

I dont know how much horsepower they were rated at, but my 71' mustang fastback had a completly stock 351C, rated at 280 HP, and that car was very fast.

I found these specs on the Pantera. My guess would be that it was detuned to run with unleaded fuel. Or he was just toying with me. I didn't mean to imply that it's a weak car or something. I was just relaying my only encounter with one.

I was really impressed that the driver still drove it with gusto unlike people with their brand new Vettes. It would be a really cool car to put a modern, fuel injected engine in.


1971 Price $9,800
Engine 330 hp 351 Cleveland
Curb weight 3123 lbs
Wheelbase 98.4 in
Track F/R 57.0/58.0 in
Length 167.0 in
Width 67.0 in
Height 43.4 in
Ground clearance 5.4 in
Weight distribution F/R 40.9/59.1 %
Fuel capacity 20.0 gal
Oil capacity 4.0 qts
Water capacity 23.0 qts
Zero to 30 mph 1.7 sec
Zero to 40 mph 2.7 sec
Zero to 50 mph 4.1 sec
Zero to 60 mph 5.5 sec

Zero to 70 mph 7.2 sec
Zero to 80 mph 9.1 sec
Zero to 90 mph 11.2 sec
Zero to 100 mph 14.1 sec
Standing 1/4 mile 14.0 sec @ 99.4 mph
Top speed 159 mph
Braking 60-0 mph 112 ft.

Interesting. thanks for the info. Question though: How does a 3100 Lb. car with 330 HP only do the quarter in 14 seconds at 99 mph?

Seems like those munbers dont add up. i guess it was milked down the quarter on street tires?

I found a couple spec pages and that was the most complete. The number that's missing is that it reached peak HP at 5200 rpms. That may explain it.

Well, stock fox bodies reached peak HP at what, 4500 RPM or something ,and they still ran the quarter in high 13's with slicks.

I guess the gearing wasnt favorable for the 1/4 mile either, with a 160 MPH top speed

Here is what I found on the gearing:


1st 2.23

2nd 1.47

3rd 1.41

4th 0.846

5th 0.705

Rev 2.87

Final Ratio 4.22:1

Yeah, pretty high gears. Even fourth is already overdrive

I've learned more today then ever about panteras', thanks

Remeber that I told u I saw one in a car show, well, here it is. I got to sit in it and talk to the owner of it.

Here's yet another one, same car.

Sorry this are smaller then normal, I put them on my yahoo group page, since I'm deployed right now, I can't get the orignal size, oh well.

Okay back to the post count thing... I have been busy and I missed this, so here is my two cents.. I liked the count when I first started but now that I got to know some people I don't even pay attention to it anymore. And Eric what is this about posting meaningless BS or something like that, I like the fact that we have the blue oval and we can tell jokes about slowmaros and rice burners. Why does someone have to have a technical question or something like that??? Chris you are really helpful I have seen how much you help people and thanks for that. I don't think Eric meant anything by the 6000 count, I know we sometimes jump to conclusions. Dan the site is great my favorite keep up the excellent work!

See Ya,
Karen:p