Kill Switches?

1969Mach1 · 01-03-2002, 01:00 PM

I was looking into putting a kill switch in my car so I don't have to worry overly much of my car being taken. But can anyone educate me on these things. I know what they do but what kind are the best ones, where can I buy them, how are they to install.

Thanks!

Crazy Horse GT · 01-03-2002, 01:24 PM

if you move your batt to the trunk area, or in your case hatch back area it would be easy,you could put it anywhere between,good luck on your project

i meant your trunk geez not hatchback

7000rpmisheaven · 01-03-2002, 01:47 PM

This probably isn't what you want to do. I used to have a POS chysler LeBaron a few years ago. I lost the only key I had for it. So I had a mechanic friend pop the lock cylinder out and I would start the car with a flathead screwdriver. I didn't have the money at the time to fix it.
When I would leave the car I would pop the hood and take the coil wire with me. What you said made me think about that, I thought I would share.

1969Mach1 · 01-03-2002, 02:20 PM

Sorry 7000rpmisheaven I don't understand what that has to do with a kill switch? You lost your key and put a new lock cylinder. I am just putting a kill switch so that the car can't be started unless the hidden switch is turned on. Nothing to the lock clylinder.

And thanks for the idea CrazyHorse

7000rpmisheaven · 01-03-2002, 02:33 PM

You misunderstood. I removed the lock cylinder completely. If you use a flathead screw drive you can stick it in the hole where the lock cylinder was, turn the thing that the lock cylinder turned, and start the car. So I had to keep people from getting in and starting it up. Isn't that what you are trying to do. A kill switch keeps people from being able to start the car, right.

Anyways I would pop the hood and remove the coil wire. You know, the one that goes from the coil to the distributor. In case you didn't know you cannot start the car without this. A kill switch also does not allow spark to the motor. I think you can understand why I thought my story(stupid and unhelpful as it may be) is related to your kill switch.

1969Mach1 · 01-03-2002, 02:42 PM

ohh... lol hehehe... sorry about that. Now I understand sorry my head isn't all here. Yeh, I would rather not take parts of my engine out everytime I have to go somewhere. lol... but that is a pretty good idea. I'd rather just put a hidden switch that'll make it alot easier. hehehe....

Maroon 5.0 LX · 01-03-2002, 04:23 PM

I ran two wires thru the firewall to a toggle switch under the dash from the coil. Locate the switch somewhere out of sight.

Remove the + wire from the coil, secure it to the new wire to the toggle switch. The other wire from the toggle switch goes back to the + on the coil.

This is in no way foolproof, but should slow down anyone trying to bust the column and starting it with a screwdriver.

You can get the switch and wire at any auto parts store or Radio Shack. Most any old toggle switch should do, not much current in + wire.

mustangman65_79 · 01-03-2002, 07:27 PM

I don't know if u want to do this, but I have a electric fuel pump hooked up to me car through a switch. If someone started the car, it would run for about 10-20 feet, then die. A crook would then just leave the car, hopfully not still moving, lol.

Another way is a batt switch that when u leave the car, u open the hood, and open the switch. U also have a little wire, fused, just big enough to keep power to your alarm and radio, but not big enough to start the car. Make sure u have hood locks too.

Rev · 01-03-2002, 07:45 PM

Or the battery in the trunk. Then it's tough for them to get to the battery cut-off switch.

The cut off to the fuel pump is a good idea too. That's how mine is rigged.

Rev

Crazy Horse GT · 01-04-2002, 04:08 AM

maroon5.0lx dont take this wrong but 1969 mach1's switch is in the dash & very easy to get too, i know from my 69 grande,so his best bet is a cut off in the trunk,plus it gives him more weight over the rear wheel's.no flame intended at all.

1969Mach1 · 01-05-2002, 12:55 AM

Yeh I was thinking of the fuel pump that was the idea my dad gave me. I'd have to get a new electric fuel pump I just replaced it too. But I'll probably do the coil one for the time being and then do the fuel pump come summer. And yeh I'll hide the switch under the seat or in the console. Or maybe I'll just hook up like 1000 volts to my steering wheel and watch the person fry when they try to steal it. =) Now there is a idea I like.

HiFlow5 0 · 01-05-2002, 08:04 AM

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Originally posted by 1969Mach1
Or maybe I'll just hook up like 1000 volts to my steering wheel and watch the person fry when they try to steal it. =) Now there is a idea I like.

Yeah fry, FRY THEM!

Actually I saw something in JC Whitney a while ago that did just that. I don't remember exactly what it was, but it hooked up to the steering wheel and sent a electrial current through the person trying to steal it.

1969Mach1 · 01-05-2002, 09:27 PM

If I am not mistaken some Honda's come with it (Who wants to steal a honda?

) But I know it has something electricity thing hooked upto it so that I think you get zapped if you try to mess with the stearing wheel. I'll try to find out more info on that.

Rebel79 · 01-07-2002, 11:41 AM

I had a switch plate custom built for my ashtray area. My buddy used my old template, the AFM switch plate and used the 1st switch for a fuel pump cut off switch. Basically he just re-routed the power to the fuel pump relat through this switch which is hidden by his ashtray door cover.

Coupe Devil · 01-07-2002, 12:22 PM

Rebel79 thats a good lookin switch plate. I have never seen one in a SN95 car. All I have seen is the fox body one's. Look real cool

Brad

ALS85GT · 01-07-2002, 12:25 PM

It seems to me that if you have a steering wheel which has metal on it then you could connect a wire to the +(Pos) side of the ignition coil and connect the other end to the sterring wheel some how. When the engine cranks or starts, --- be prepared to rec 50k volts!!!!

84LX89GT · 01-07-2002, 04:09 PM

It's funny this topic came up because there has been an outbreak of car thefts (especially on modified and fast cars...several fox body stangs have been stolen) at all of my friend's apartment complexes, so i'm going to be doing the same thing. I'm thinking of hooking a relay up so that the control side of the relay is activated by either turning on the cruise control switch and the activated side runs into the starting relay circuit and won't allow the car to crank over. Or since i'm taking out my air conditioning, using the AC or AC max selection on the climate control switch to control a relay on the starting circuit. I'm not exactly sure where i want to tie in to kill the car, but the fuel pump circuit is also a good idea but i want a stock looking type system personally, plus my car is gutted so there's alot less hiding places.

Hey, for you fuel injected guys, a FREE kill switch is the intertia switch. leave you car running when you park it, smack the inertia switch with a flashlight or something blunt and wait a few seconds until the car dies and then lock it up. No thief would ever think of something as simple as that (or at least i hope they wouldn't). I may actually start doing that until i figure out what i want to do in terms of having a kill switch.

ALS85GT · 01-07-2002, 04:15 PM

I actually use my AC switch to activate the fuel pump. You can start it, but it'll run a block then stop. I don't have ac so this switch came in handy.

01-03-2002, 01:00 PM	#1
1969Mach1 HEY I CAN SET A NAME NOW! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,556	Kill Switches? I was looking into putting a kill switch in my car so I don't have to worry overly much of my car being taken. But can anyone educate me on these things. I know what they do but what kind are the best ones, where can I buy them, how are they to install. Thanks! __________________ 1969 Mustang Mach 1Sold 351-4V Windsor, 4 Speed MACH 1 - Moving At The Speed Of Sound. 1979 Mustang Indianapolis 500 Pace Car For Sale - Email me for Info 302-2V, 3-Speed Auto One of 2,106 made One of 405 sent to Canada. Yes those are caution lights, and No you can't pass me when there on. Ricer Hater's Club - Member #4

01-03-2002, 01:24 PM	#2
Crazy Horse GT Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sale Creek, TN. C. S. A. Posts: 4,652	if you move your batt to the trunk area, or in your case hatch back area it would be easy,you could put it anywhere between,good luck on your project i meant your trunk geez not hatchback __________________ 95 gt vert, lot's of stuff, it aint slow. 04 sonic blue v - six my beater 89 rs camaro iroc turbo hood, other stuff, my wifes ride 84 lx stang cammed up 289 hi po, etc 65 falcon, maybe by the year 2020. black 00gt, gone but never forgotten. R H C- member # 1 o.b.c. da prez- member # 1 if your under 40 dont ask. goodbye for now odie,r.i.p. 11-27-03

01-03-2002, 01:47 PM	#3
7000rpmisheaven Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: germantown MD Posts: 283	This probably isn't what you want to do. I used to have a POS chysler LeBaron a few years ago. I lost the only key I had for it. So I had a mechanic friend pop the lock cylinder out and I would start the car with a flathead screwdriver. I didn't have the money at the time to fix it. When I would leave the car I would pop the hood and take the coil wire with me. What you said made me think about that, I thought I would share. __________________ 85 GT 4bbl roller cam 2 ch. Flowmasters, O/R H-pipe Performer intake and carb milodon water pump, FMS 9mm wires, aluminum driveshaft, king cobra clutch

01-03-2002, 02:20 PM	#4
1969Mach1 HEY I CAN SET A NAME NOW! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,556	Sorry 7000rpmisheaven I don't understand what that has to do with a kill switch? You lost your key and put a new lock cylinder. I am just putting a kill switch so that the car can't be started unless the hidden switch is turned on. Nothing to the lock clylinder. And thanks for the idea CrazyHorse __________________ 1969 Mustang Mach 1Sold 351-4V Windsor, 4 Speed MACH 1 - Moving At The Speed Of Sound. 1979 Mustang Indianapolis 500 Pace Car For Sale - Email me for Info 302-2V, 3-Speed Auto One of 2,106 made One of 405 sent to Canada. Yes those are caution lights, and No you can't pass me when there on. Ricer Hater's Club - Member #4

01-03-2002, 02:33 PM	#5
7000rpmisheaven Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: germantown MD Posts: 283	You misunderstood. I removed the lock cylinder completely. If you use a flathead screw drive you can stick it in the hole where the lock cylinder was, turn the thing that the lock cylinder turned, and start the car. So I had to keep people from getting in and starting it up. Isn't that what you are trying to do. A kill switch keeps people from being able to start the car, right. Anyways I would pop the hood and remove the coil wire. You know, the one that goes from the coil to the distributor. In case you didn't know you cannot start the car without this. A kill switch also does not allow spark to the motor. I think you can understand why I thought my story(stupid and unhelpful as it may be) is related to your kill switch. __________________ 85 GT 4bbl roller cam 2 ch. Flowmasters, O/R H-pipe Performer intake and carb milodon water pump, FMS 9mm wires, aluminum driveshaft, king cobra clutch

01-03-2002, 02:42 PM	#6
1969Mach1 HEY I CAN SET A NAME NOW! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,556	ohh... lol hehehe... sorry about that. Now I understand sorry my head isn't all here. Yeh, I would rather not take parts of my engine out everytime I have to go somewhere. lol... but that is a pretty good idea. I'd rather just put a hidden switch that'll make it alot easier. hehehe.... __________________ 1969 Mustang Mach 1Sold 351-4V Windsor, 4 Speed MACH 1 - Moving At The Speed Of Sound. 1979 Mustang Indianapolis 500 Pace Car For Sale - Email me for Info 302-2V, 3-Speed Auto One of 2,106 made One of 405 sent to Canada. Yes those are caution lights, and No you can't pass me when there on. Ricer Hater's Club - Member #4

01-03-2002, 04:23 PM	#7
Maroon 5.0 LX Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Southern Maryland Posts: 471	I ran two wires thru the firewall to a toggle switch under the dash from the coil. Locate the switch somewhere out of sight. Remove the + wire from the coil, secure it to the new wire to the toggle switch. The other wire from the toggle switch goes back to the + on the coil. This is in no way foolproof, but should slow down anyone trying to bust the column and starting it with a screwdriver. You can get the switch and wire at any auto parts store or Radio Shack. Most any old toggle switch should do, not much current in + wire. __________________ '89 LX 5.0 - 5 speed. Original Owner '94 E-150 4.9 Hi-Top Conversion Van '06 Mustang V-6, 5 speed

01-03-2002, 07:27 PM	#8
mustangman65_79 My poor 79 RIP Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Suisun City, Posts: 2,320	I don't know if u want to do this, but I have a electric fuel pump hooked up to me car through a switch. If someone started the car, it would run for about 10-20 feet, then die. A crook would then just leave the car, hopfully not still moving, lol. Another way is a batt switch that when u leave the car, u open the hood, and open the switch. U also have a little wire, fused, just big enough to keep power to your alarm and radio, but not big enough to start the car. Make sure u have hood locks too. __________________ '84 mustang GT turbo '85 LTD '89 Camaro Irocz z28 '94 Lightning '96 Trans am

01-03-2002, 07:45 PM	#9
Rev Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Houston, Tx. Posts: 3,887	Or the battery in the trunk. Then it's tough for them to get to the battery cut-off switch. The cut off to the fuel pump is a good idea too. That's how mine is rigged. Rev __________________ '66 Coupe, 306, 350-375 HP, C-4, 13.07 e.t., 104.8 mph, 1/4 mi. O.B.C. #2 '66 coupe

01-04-2002, 04:08 AM	#10
Crazy Horse GT Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sale Creek, TN. C. S. A. Posts: 4,652	maroon5.0lx dont take this wrong but 1969 mach1's switch is in the dash & very easy to get too, i know from my 69 grande,so his best bet is a cut off in the trunk,plus it gives him more weight over the rear wheel's.no flame intended at all. __________________ 95 gt vert, lot's of stuff, it aint slow. 04 sonic blue v - six my beater 89 rs camaro iroc turbo hood, other stuff, my wifes ride 84 lx stang cammed up 289 hi po, etc 65 falcon, maybe by the year 2020. black 00gt, gone but never forgotten. R H C- member # 1 o.b.c. da prez- member # 1 if your under 40 dont ask. goodbye for now odie,r.i.p. 11-27-03

01-05-2002, 12:55 AM	#11
1969Mach1 HEY I CAN SET A NAME NOW! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,556	Yeh I was thinking of the fuel pump that was the idea my dad gave me. I'd have to get a new electric fuel pump I just replaced it too. But I'll probably do the coil one for the time being and then do the fuel pump come summer. And yeh I'll hide the switch under the seat or in the console. Or maybe I'll just hook up like 1000 volts to my steering wheel and watch the person fry when they try to steal it. =) Now there is a idea I like. __________________ 1969 Mustang Mach 1Sold 351-4V Windsor, 4 Speed MACH 1 - Moving At The Speed Of Sound. 1979 Mustang Indianapolis 500 Pace Car For Sale - Email me for Info 302-2V, 3-Speed Auto One of 2,106 made One of 405 sent to Canada. Yes those are caution lights, and No you can't pass me when there on. Ricer Hater's Club - Member #4

01-05-2002, 09:27 PM	#13
1969Mach1 HEY I CAN SET A NAME NOW! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,556	If I am not mistaken some Honda's come with it (Who wants to steal a honda? ) But I know it has something electricity thing hooked upto it so that I think you get zapped if you try to mess with the stearing wheel. I'll try to find out more info on that. __________________ 1969 Mustang Mach 1Sold 351-4V Windsor, 4 Speed MACH 1 - Moving At The Speed Of Sound. 1979 Mustang Indianapolis 500 Pace Car For Sale - Email me for Info 302-2V, 3-Speed Auto One of 2,106 made One of 405 sent to Canada. Yes those are caution lights, and No you can't pass me when there on. Ricer Hater's Club - Member #4

01-07-2002, 11:41 AM	#14
Rebel79 News Editor Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: Concord, CA Posts: 2,101	I had a switch plate custom built for my ashtray area. My buddy used my old template, the AFM switch plate and used the 1st switch for a fuel pump cut off switch. Basically he just re-routed the power to the fuel pump relat through this switch which is hidden by his ashtray door cover. __________________ Scott Halihan, News Editor The MustangWorks Magazine 1994 Supercharged Mustang Cobra Rebel Racing. Home of Bay Area Mustangs

01-07-2002, 12:22 PM	#15
Coupe Devil Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Myrtle Beach SC Posts: 1,643	Rebel79 thats a good lookin switch plate. I have never seen one in a SN95 car. All I have seen is the fox body one's. Look real cool Brad __________________ 1990 GT, 347, TFS TW Heads, TFS Cam, TFS Track heat, Twin turbos, FMIC, T5. Built Ford Tough Moderator

01-07-2002, 12:25 PM	#16
ALS85GT Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Miami, Fl, USA Posts: 69	It seems to me that if you have a steering wheel which has metal on it then you could connect a wire to the +(Pos) side of the ignition coil and connect the other end to the sterring wheel some how. When the engine cranks or starts, --- be prepared to rec 50k volts!!!! __________________ 85GT 5.0 was CFI converted to Holley 650. Hooker full length headers, FlowMaster 2 chamber. Weiand Stealth manifold. 86 roller motor, crane 1:7:1 alum rocker arms(roller). SSI 220@.050/498 Roller cam. Summit double roller timing chain. Melling oil pump, stock bottom end. Mallory Hi-Fire ignition. Under drive pulleys. Accell coil and Ford Motorsport 9mm wires. 93'8.8 posi. 4:10s. AOD w/B&M shift kit. No figures yet, still working on it. No back seats or AC. 1989 GT Convert-- All stock w/AOD, Air Silencer removed, DynoMax Mufflers.

01-07-2002, 04:09 PM	#17
84LX89GT Mustangs Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 1,938	It's funny this topic came up because there has been an outbreak of car thefts (especially on modified and fast cars...several fox body stangs have been stolen) at all of my friend's apartment complexes, so i'm going to be doing the same thing. I'm thinking of hooking a relay up so that the control side of the relay is activated by either turning on the cruise control switch and the activated side runs into the starting relay circuit and won't allow the car to crank over. Or since i'm taking out my air conditioning, using the AC or AC max selection on the climate control switch to control a relay on the starting circuit. I'm not exactly sure where i want to tie in to kill the car, but the fuel pump circuit is also a good idea but i want a stock looking type system personally, plus my car is gutted so there's alot less hiding places. Hey, for you fuel injected guys, a FREE kill switch is the intertia switch. leave you car running when you park it, smack the inertia switch with a flashlight or something blunt and wait a few seconds until the car dies and then lock it up. No thief would ever think of something as simple as that (or at least i hope they wouldn't). I may actually start doing that until i figure out what i want to do in terms of having a kill switch. __________________ 2005 Suzuki Hayabusa GSX1300-R 1980 Ford Thunderbird - 255 V8 ported heads, 5.0L ported stock headers, O.R. H-pipe and Flowmaster 2-chambers, dual roller timing chain hi-po Mack Truck hood emblem 1985 Mustang GT 5.0L T5, F-303, GT40p, headers, off-road h, flowmasters, MSD stuff, etc. Sold 02/06/04 1989 Mustang GT ET: 13.304@102.29 mph (5-24-03) Sold - 1998 Mustang Cobra coupe, 1/4 mile - street tires: 13.843@103.41 (bone stock)

01-07-2002, 04:15 PM	#18
ALS85GT Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Miami, Fl, USA Posts: 69	I actually use my AC switch to activate the fuel pump. You can start it, but it'll run a block then stop. I don't have ac so this switch came in handy. __________________ 85GT 5.0 was CFI converted to Holley 650. Hooker full length headers, FlowMaster 2 chamber. Weiand Stealth manifold. 86 roller motor, crane 1:7:1 alum rocker arms(roller). SSI 220@.050/498 Roller cam. Summit double roller timing chain. Melling oil pump, stock bottom end. Mallory Hi-Fire ignition. Under drive pulleys. Accell coil and Ford Motorsport 9mm wires. 93'8.8 posi. 4:10s. AOD w/B&M shift kit. No figures yet, still working on it. No back seats or AC. 1989 GT Convert-- All stock w/AOD, Air Silencer removed, DynoMax Mufflers.

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