one of my students got killed by her "ricer" boyfriend.

[b055]

her bf got a new honda sport car of some type or another.. and they went for a drive.. he was sliding around curves, lost it, flipped on it's side, and smacked a tree with the roof above their heads....

i cant even describe how i feel right now.. the first time i ever met AMANDA she ran up to me on the first day of school, hugged me, and told me she was gonna be my best student... she was an honor student, very very nice, pretty, and such a sweet little girl.

[mustangII460]

Geez sorry to hear that.

Unfortunatley graduation time is upon us. Im affraid were going to hear more sad news such as this.

Not sure why these things happen to the best of kids and families. I trust that God has a purpose for us.

[jndnaps]

Sorry to hear that, Our thoughts and prayers are with them.

[Stang_Girl617]

Im sorry to hear of your loss. I know how you feel. My best friend was killed my sophomore year by an ambulance driver who was under the influiance of drugs, alcohol and OTC drugs. Way more than he should have taken(OTC drug). He was driving at 70 in a 35 with no lights on and ran a redlight and hit my friend on the driver side and flipped her car 6 times. She struggled for days before god finally saved her. I know how you feel. I was so angry forever. And the guy completely got away with it. It takes a while to get over it. I will keep you and her family in my prayers. I hope you feel better soon!

[Ackbar00]

Originally posted by mustangII460

Not sure why these things happen to the best of kids and families.

No shitt, espically with all the assshole terrorist that are out there.

Sorry to hear that cheif

[Stang_Girl617]

A guy I graduated with died last night in a car accident. He was street racing in a cammaro. A CAMMARO! ohmygosh. Anyway. I really am not that sad about it because it was his own fault not saying that he deserved to die because of his stupid choice but just that it was a stupid choice to begin with. the car didnt even belong to him, it belong to a guy he work with and he was racing in MYRTLE BEACH South Carolina. WHERE can you race in MB???? What a stupid decision. I am sorry of the consequences and stuff. But how am I suppose to react to it. He was a pretty good guy though. All and all the world is out of an excellent guy.

[xxxBlakexxx]

Very, very sad! I partially blame parents for allowing their kids to drives these cars thinking "my kid is a good kid". In PA, the driving age is going up to 18....I think this is great....the roads will be much safer.

[Stang_Girl617]

I happen to think thats stupid. Just because you raise the age doesnt mean that the child will be that much more mature when they reach the age. If kids have to wait till 18 to be eligable to drive then that means they will be that inmature until 18 and then when they reach that age they will drive like idiots. The wrecks are caused by lack of experience not lack of age. I happen to like Georgia's new plan. Kids was be eligble for a permit at 15 but will have to be learners until 17 and then once that age will be able to drive from 6am till 12pm no excuses and once you turn 18 you are treated like an adult. That makes sense. Age is not the issue. Experience is. and as for kids being the danger. As for Ga. ITS THE ADULTS and SENIORS. These idiotic women on cell phones and putting on makeup doing 80 because they are late. And stupid seniors doing 55 in the WRONG lane. in some huge shi**y car and run all over the road like they are the onlyone on it. Kids are the least of my worries.

[mustardjohn]

I think I like the Georgia idea. Does that mean from 15 to 17 they have to be accompanied by and adult when driving or at least someone over 18.

I agree with the experience thought too. But the insurance folks have the data and it says until you are about 25 you are a higher risk.

Here in Texas you have to take drivers ed which means driving every day with a trainer for about 6 months before you can get a licence. Don't know, however, if our statistics are better on young drivers.

[Stang_Girl617]

Yes from 15-17 you will have to be with someone 21 or older. And in Ga you also have to take drivers ed... the whole year but it is a course at your school. But the 15-17 thing is going through state congress now. though drivers ed is mandatory now and then you have to have 6 hours with your parents.

[Stang_Girl617]

Yes from 15-17 you will have to be with someone 21 or older. And in Ga you also have to take drivers ed... the whole year but it is a course at your school. But the 15-17 thing is going through state congress now. though drivers ed is mandatory now and then you have to have 6 hours with your parents.

[xxxBlakexxx]

Hold on now, the new law in PA says you can get your drivers permit at 16, but not a DL until 18. This is done to ensure that they are driving with a responsible, more mature agult over the age of 21. With the permit only, they can not drive after 11 pm unless it is with their parent or legal guardian.

I think this is a great idea!

You do get more mature with age, but this is NO guarentee. If experience was everything, we could start letting them drive at 11 so they will have tons of experience by 16, right? See, that's not good either.

The greatest cause of death amoung kids is car accidents! Kids under the age of 18 are as likely to be in a wreck as drivers over the age of 86! This says it all! We need to protect are kids, even if it is from themselves. There are too many of them dying.

[moosejaw]

Back to the original post, I wonder how long until a grieving parent tries to blame the the boy's action on a movie (AKA Fast & Ignorant) instead of proper adult supervision/responsibility. "It wasn't his fault, he saw it in a movie. It's the movie makers fault!" This is what angers me the most.

Here is St. Louis there has been a flurry of teen street racing incidents in the last year. Many of these incidents have resulted in innocent deaths of young people, some not even involved in the "racing". The encouraging side to this has been the successful prosecutions of the drivers of crashed cars and the other participants in the "race".

One case where a car side swiped a guard rail sending the rail through the passenger door cutting the two passengers in half. The officer on the scene realized to his horror that his son was the driver of the vehicle. I was impressed with the lack of cover up of this incident. The son was not shielded from prosecution.

Time will tell if these high profile cases will discourage the less experienced from being stupid.


Mike

[bigred90gt]

Originally posted by mustardjohn
I think I like the Georgia idea. Does that mean from 15 to 17 they have to be accompanied by and adult when driving or at least someone over 18.

I agree with the experience thought too. But the insurance folks have the data and it says until you are about 25 you are a higher risk.

Here in Texas you have to take drivers ed which means driving every day with a trainer for about 6 months before you can get a licence. Don't know, however, if our statistics are better on young drivers.

When I took drivers ed, it was only a week (maybe 2) long. I only got in the car for the "behind the wheel" part of the class for 2 days. That was about 7 years ago, so I dont know what has or hasnt changed since then.

[LxMustangRacer]

I think that saying it's the parents faults for how their children drive is the biggest bunch of crap ever. He could've just as easily been speeding and sliding around in a Geo Prism. I'm all for protecting people, but there does have to be a point. Eventually you have to cut the strings and let people make their own decisions. And yeah there'll be accidents and stupid decisions, but that's part of life. I think the Georgia idea is a better step in the right direction than pushing back the driving age to 18.

[PowerSlideGT]

Im 17 years of age, Graduated this year 2004. And i thought that i would reply to this post.

The thing is, exception to every rule. I have been driving since the age of 9, on back roads and such. Accidents are caused by carlessness and imuturity. Kids now a days dont think about what could happen and all this. The honda kid was probably a fan of fast and furious, he used stupid judgment and decided to do stupid things with a passager, If your going to try somthing then try it by your self, dont take another life in to your hands. My prayers and every thing is with you.

Drivers ed covers the basics, but what they do not cover is how to handle powerslides, fishtails, spins and ect. if kids new how to properly handle these then there would be fewer deaths, i agree with the 18 rule, but i also think that for the select teens, they should be able to take a strict test to get your license at 16-17.

Thats my thoughts on this.

Ray

[PowerSlideGT]

I almost forgot about the camaro,


People now a days dont take the proper persesures to race, sorry guys i cant spell. When ever i race some one, its always a secluded area, with only the drivers and a go man. not to mention spoters, to tell us when its safe, that or take it to a drag strip. people dont think thurally enough. People have to use there heads, my prayers are with his family as well.

[Unit 5302]

I don't find a whole lot of reason in these arguments.

Pushing back the age to get a drivers license to 18 isn't going to make a difference. It's the experience behind the wheel that counts, along with the image society pushes forward about certain kinds of driving and cars.

Glorification of street racing in traffic has probably been the biggest contributor to the additional reckless racing behavior of drivers on the roads today. It seems quite apparent that people need to have a driving safety course along with their normal drivers ed course to teach them how to handle their car in an emergency, and to reinforce the dangers of automobile accidents.

Even so, people rarely learn from the mistakes of others, they for some reason prefer to make the mistakes themselves, and there is no substitute for real world driving experience.

Would anybody here expect younger drivers to be more responsible or better able to handle their cars than people with 10 or 20 years of experience under their belt? Is there any question as to why younger drivers have a higher rate of accidents?

Restricted licenses are great, in theory. The driver gets experience behind the wheel with an adult overseeing their operation of the vehicle. The problem is, as soon as you remove the direct supervision, all that stuff that they want to do gets done. Of course, this is all assuming the young driver is actually interested in cars. Many kids are simply more interested in a thumping sound system or an LCD than a supercharger.

In regards to the comments about the parents being to blame, you're right. Parents are partially to blame. I wish parents in our society had enough friggen backbone to stand up and take their medicine, but they don't want to parent their children, they want the rest of society and schools to do it for them. Every parent has a responsibility to educate their children on stupid and smart behavior, including that which happens on the roads.

Raising the legal driving age to 18 will do one thing. Make 18-20 year olds worse drivers, albeit some maturing will have taken place (limited), and they will probably remain slighly better than what would have been the 16-18 year olds.

[Stang_Girl617]

I couldnt agree more.

Didnt think I would see you around here Unit 5302.