I went to the recruiter today.....

bigwhitecobra · 09-18-2001, 12:00 AM

As I walked through the door, the Staff SGT looked at me, checking me over. His eyes settled on mine and he began to speak.
"How can I help you?"
I eyed him for a second, then I said as calmly as I could, "You can give me a M-16, a plane ticket, and a few hundred rounds of ammo."

I'm at a cross roads, and I'm not sure of the direction I should go. I feel the call of my country, yet I have my family to think of.
My brother is in Germany, awaiting deployment to Saudi Arabia. He'll be there atleast 6 months. Alot can happen in 6 months....... alot that I could probably prevent. I love my brother, and I know that deep down he will be fine, but when I look at him I don't see a 21 year old man. To me he's still 5 years old, and it's my place to make sure that he is safe.
But I have a son, and an unborn child. A loving wife, that needs support. I don't know what to do here. This is the first tome in my life that I don't have an answer. I'm not asking for advice as much as I am unloading, however, I will listen to what you have to say.
I just don't want to sit here and do nothing.......know what I mean?

Later.

09-18-2001, 12:12 AM

cobra , do what you want, but also think about your children , there are enough military force's to take care of this counting, reserve's, national gaurd , etc this question of your's weigh's on my mind , you can tell me if i'm wrong, but you have a unborn child to cosider. my grandfather never came home from ,ww2 i never got to know him all i knew of him was , apicture of a man in a sailor's uniform , just a thought you can tell me i'm wrong , but consider that, at least you will make your own decision, good luck with whatever it is. take care.

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bigwhitecobra · 09-18-2001, 12:25 AM

As I said, I haven't made up my mind as of yet. Thank you for your opinion, and I am glad to hear your point of view. I will let you know how things turn out.

I'm also testing my sig, so don't pay me any attention if it doesn't turn out right.
Later.

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Power · 09-18-2001, 12:31 AM

I can feel your confusion on what to do. I am also married and attempting to start a family.

At the time of this happening I had about 25 days left in the army. Now I have this big gorilla on my back over whether to re-enlist or not.

Last october(2000)I was supposed to go to Special Forces selection. I couldn't go because of injured legs during a routine deployment. Now a year later, I am healed and prepared to exit the army. In light of new developments I am toying with the idea of again turning in my packet to SFAS.

Any vets out there, army or otherwise, give us guys with questions some guidance. Anything is appreciated.

Hethj7 · 09-18-2001, 12:42 AM

I too have questioned what my place is in all of this. I would leave in a heartbeat if asked to by my country, but until then I will stay here and continue my education. It is selfish to some extent, but we have enough current forces to get the job done. But, if I am needed for anything, I will drop everything for this country.
My advice to you would be to stay back and take care of your family. You have priorities there and are not yet needed to enlist. No one is going to fault you for taking care of your family.

Not that I could ever fully realize what this country's veterans have gone through, but I like to think I have more of an understanding now. I am much more appreciative and can now feel their pride in America. I more fully realize what an honor it is to live in the greatest country in the world and what sacrifices they have made to keep it that way.

I remember seeing the hurt in my grandpa's eyes, a WWII veteran, when we were handed American flags at a fourth of July celebration and they were all made in Japan. It upset me at the time, but now I see small incidences such as this as a matter of national pride.

Thank you to all current and former members of the armed forces. You keep this country strong and your efforts are appreciated by all!!

WADS56 · 09-18-2001, 12:43 AM

If this turns out to a all out war I will sign up and do my part. But if it just becomes more of a strike and wait type of thing where soldiers are not needed I will not join. I just don't want to get stuck and end up in another country on the other side of the world if I am not needed.

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93lx all stock + tremec

bigwhitecobra · 09-18-2001, 12:54 AM

Just to add another log to the flame....I've already served once....in the Marine Corps, which is probably why I feel so strongly about this. Well, whatever I decide, it won't be tonight. Time to get some sleep. Later.

09-18-2001, 01:05 AM

hey , power i told you my opinion the other day , but you know what they say about , opinion's. if you want to ask me any question's , i will try to give you an honest -unbiased answer , but i can tell you this for a fact they might let you ets now or they , also can extend your ets indefinitly it happened to me , i was in the middle of the pacific & damn sure didn't want to swim back to hawaii .e- mail me at mustang37379@msn.com if you have more question's it wiil say leota- my wife's name hell i reckon she own's ,everything i have, see ya!

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Mach 1 · 09-18-2001, 04:44 AM

Stay home. We got your back. My wife is 6 months pregnant, and I have a very high chance of being deployed, so, no reason for everybody to suffer.

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1993 GT/AOD
'93 Mustang GT

09-18-2001, 08:49 AM

best of luck to you MACH1 we will be praying for you & your'es keep it low to the ground bro take care & god be with you alway's.

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Topless In Texas · 09-19-2001, 01:35 AM

Bigwhitecobra, Mach1, PonyPower, and the others...YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME!!! It's times like this that I feel priveledged to 'know' people like ya'll!!! Do what you feel you need to do!! I'm sure your families are very proud of ya'lls commitments at this time. I would just lay in the balance at this time...there are too many others that are so eager to serve that are not expecting babies!! BUT, that is your decision. Either way, your children would be proud of ya'll!!!! Thank you!!! Topless

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TOPLESS IN TEXAS Girls can too's July "Mare of the Month"

Performance Red. Cold Air Ind.,K&N,H.P. Pulleys,OffRoad H-Pipe,Subframe Connectors,Flows,3.55,Light bar,Custom HeadRests.Lotta Chrome

Mach 1 · 09-19-2001, 02:46 AM

Hey, thanks everybody. At this point in time, I dont think Ill be getting deployed, and Im thinking my unit might leave me behind considering my wife is prego, if we do get deployed.

Eithier way, appreciate all the support.

Mustangbelle306 · 09-19-2001, 05:23 PM

I seriously think you really don't have to worry about it. Thanks to all the piss a$$ bleeding heart liberals that are crying and moaning about how the poor civilians have nothing to do with Bin Laden, I'm sure all they will do is try to extradite him and try him. I don't think anyone has to worry about doing their duty.

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1994 GT: The Primered Wonder!
Email: Belle@Mustangworks.com
AOL name: FZRBelle306

todd95GT · 09-20-2001, 02:16 AM

Here's my opinion. When I was a teenager, I really wanted to join the service. But women and other bad habits (no offense ladies)seemed to be more of a priority at the time. I am presently a police officer so in that way, I express my patriotism by my swearing to uphold the constitution of the United States as well as the constitution of the State of Florida.
I regret not joining the service when I was younger, and like every other American, feel the true NEED for the first time in my life to enlist. I am as outraged and angry over this entire situation like all of you. Before I continue rambling, my point is this: I admire anyone who has served this country, whether in peacetime or war. It takes a true patriot to do so. But patriotism to me is like believing in God in this sense-I say you don't have to go to church or synagogue to have faith in the same way you can truly be patriotic without serving in the Armed Forces. You guys that have families or families to be, this is the time to think of them. This is a situation that, like every other use of force, will cause many of our boys in uniform to lose their lives. Understandably, that's an unfortunate circumstance of war, but if the life of a father, husband, brother, etc, can be saved, then by all means do so. Surely, fathers and brothers will be lost as this situation escalates, but I feel staying stateside with your children is more important than leaving behind an orphan. Best of luck in your decision though. Whichever it may be, it will be the right one. Having the desire to go overseas, especially to the degree where you felt the need to post this topic, says a lot about your character and dedication to this country.

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Todd
1995 GT/T-5
Pulleys; 65 mm TB; Flowmaster cat-back; Mac off road H-pipe; FMS aluminum driveshaft; short-throw shifter; HD clutch; Cobra R's; Cobra front and wing

SMOKE · 09-20-2001, 12:43 PM

Wow.

I'm currently serving and honored more as an American to here those of you wanting to join the fight.

Awesome, but this guidance I give freely to you fine Americans.

First it is a huge decision to join the service but if you've served or have members serving now trust in us and the govn't because this War will be a long drawn out affair and the need it not there and I can honestly say ... shouldn't arise.

As an Air Force member I know no one does it better and these terrorist will be found and brought to justice.

So, stay at home buy stocks and keep the economy going and understand there are many f us ready to go in harms way first and pray we can come home and roast the tires and wash the mustang some weekend soon.

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K!
Personalized Black 98 SVO Blown DVD/TV equipped daily driver Stage II ROUSH
without the side exhaust
Dyno 303rwhp 338rwtrq
Still working out the kinks!!!

69fastback · 09-20-2001, 01:03 PM

ok i cant resonded con m;letley. I love erey thing any ine has done for me
i lave u all
i just wish there was saw somowmonae s goon as u

09-21-2001, 04:42 PM

I know exactly what you guys are talking about......I'm sort of torn myself, but I have a wife and we're planning on starting a family shortly. If I wasn't, I'd already be enlisted or down at the recruiters office. I've got 2 friends and 1 cousin that have already been shipped out to the Persian Gulf and Germany. Because of my commitment to my wife and future child, I cannot leave here. If it is necessary in the future, and if I'm called upon by Uncle Sam, I will fight proudly w/ all my heart and might for this country. Military's been in my family, but like todd95 said - women and other "social activites" kind of were more important back in the day. Good luck to all of you who are shipping out and know that we appreciate your service to this country. Our prayers are with you.

Mach 1 · 09-22-2001, 02:25 AM

hey, wait a minute. Ive had way more than my share of woman and "social activities", but I still enlisted.

I had my own reasons for enlisting, NONE of which were patriotic in nature, and you guys that didnt enlist, and are having sudden feelings of patriotism, you dont have to make excuses, please, spare us, if you wanted to do it bad enough, you would have done it, regardless of woman or anything else.

09-22-2001, 02:41 AM

you said it all mach 1 ,i tried to go to the nam was too young ,missed by 1 year , went to beirut , went to the gulf war , want to go now but can't , gulf war syn , wish i could put in my last 8 year's to go but can not so my hope's , thought's & prayer's are with all of our armed force's i feel that , you are all my comrades . just a thought from an old vet. god bless you all & may we not lose one single one of you, we have lost enough people for ,one crazy a$$ed reason if you could call it reason .i don't,take care.

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69fastback · 09-22-2001, 06:40 AM

Damn I dont even rember Posting on here. I have no clue of what the hell i was trying to write. They just let everyone here have beer again for the first time so i got a little wasted and didn't know what the hell i was doing. U should have seen the lines at the class six.
Women and social acctives. I will tell u one thing my two years in the army i have had way more women and social activites than i did in my 4 years of college. Women love men in uniform. Anyway
ALL the support is appriciated but we do have plenty of people to get the job done.

09-18-2001, 12:00 AM	#1
bigwhitecobra Huh? Whatcha said? Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 1,073	I went to the recruiter today..... As I walked through the door, the Staff SGT looked at me, checking me over. His eyes settled on mine and he began to speak. "How can I help you?" I eyed him for a second, then I said as calmly as I could, "You can give me a M-16, a plane ticket, and a few hundred rounds of ammo." I'm at a cross roads, and I'm not sure of the direction I should go. I feel the call of my country, yet I have my family to think of. My brother is in Germany, awaiting deployment to Saudi Arabia. He'll be there atleast 6 months. Alot can happen in 6 months....... alot that I could probably prevent. I love my brother, and I know that deep down he will be fine, but when I look at him I don't see a 21 year old man. To me he's still 5 years old, and it's my place to make sure that he is safe. But I have a son, and an unborn child. A loving wife, that needs support. I don't know what to do here. This is the first tome in my life that I don't have an answer. I'm not asking for advice as much as I am unloading, however, I will listen to what you have to say. I just don't want to sit here and do nothing.......know what I mean? Later.

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09-18-2001, 12:12 AM	#2
mustang marty gt Guest Posts: n/a	cobra , do what you want, but also think about your children , there are enough military force's to take care of this counting, reserve's, national gaurd , etc this question of your's weigh's on my mind , you can tell me if i'm wrong, but you have a unborn child to cosider. my grandfather never came home from ,ww2 i never got to know him all i knew of him was , apicture of a man in a sailor's uniform , just a thought you can tell me i'm wrong , but consider that, at least you will make your own decision, good luck with whatever it is. take care. ------------------

09-18-2001, 12:25 AM	#3
bigwhitecobra Huh? Whatcha said? Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 1,073	As I said, I haven't made up my mind as of yet. Thank you for your opinion, and I am glad to hear your point of view. I will let you know how things turn out. I'm also testing my sig, so don't pay me any attention if it doesn't turn out right. Later. ------------------ http://usmc.org/globe.gif

09-18-2001, 12:31 AM	#4
Power Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Oregon Posts: 420	I can feel your confusion on what to do. I am also married and attempting to start a family. At the time of this happening I had about 25 days left in the army. Now I have this big gorilla on my back over whether to re-enlist or not. Last october(2000)I was supposed to go to Special Forces selection. I couldn't go because of injured legs during a routine deployment. Now a year later, I am healed and prepared to exit the army. In light of new developments I am toying with the idea of again turning in my packet to SFAS. Any vets out there, army or otherwise, give us guys with questions some guidance. Anything is appreciated.

09-18-2001, 12:42 AM	#5
Hethj7 Mizzou Tigers Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: weston, MO United States Posts: 1,455	I too have questioned what my place is in all of this. I would leave in a heartbeat if asked to by my country, but until then I will stay here and continue my education. It is selfish to some extent, but we have enough current forces to get the job done. But, if I am needed for anything, I will drop everything for this country. My advice to you would be to stay back and take care of your family. You have priorities there and are not yet needed to enlist. No one is going to fault you for taking care of your family. Not that I could ever fully realize what this country's veterans have gone through, but I like to think I have more of an understanding now. I am much more appreciative and can now feel their pride in America. I more fully realize what an honor it is to live in the greatest country in the world and what sacrifices they have made to keep it that way. I remember seeing the hurt in my grandpa's eyes, a WWII veteran, when we were handed American flags at a fourth of July celebration and they were all made in Japan. It upset me at the time, but now I see small incidences such as this as a matter of national pride. Thank you to all current and former members of the armed forces. You keep this country strong and your efforts are appreciated by all!!

09-18-2001, 12:43 AM	#6
WADS56 gear banger Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: CHICAGO Posts: 1,144	If this turns out to a all out war I will sign up and do my part. But if it just becomes more of a strike and wait type of thing where soldiers are not needed I will not join. I just don't want to get stuck and end up in another country on the other side of the world if I am not needed. ------------------ 79 hatch w/ NA 347,stage 2 Canfield heads, out of the box Victor 5.0 intake, solid roller cam, Aeromotive fuel system, proshifted TKO II.MY CAR http://www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/...splay.cgi?1288 93lx all stock + tremec

09-18-2001, 12:54 AM	#7
bigwhitecobra Huh? Whatcha said? Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 1,073	Just to add another log to the flame....I've already served once....in the Marine Corps, which is probably why I feel so strongly about this. Well, whatever I decide, it won't be tonight. Time to get some sleep. Later.

09-18-2001, 01:05 AM	#8
mustang marty gt Guest Posts: n/a	hey , power i told you my opinion the other day , but you know what they say about , opinion's. if you want to ask me any question's , i will try to give you an honest -unbiased answer , but i can tell you this for a fact they might let you ets now or they , also can extend your ets indefinitly it happened to me , i was in the middle of the pacific & damn sure didn't want to swim back to hawaii .e- mail me at mustang37379@msn.com if you have more question's it wiil say leota- my wife's name hell i reckon she own's ,everything i have, see ya! ------------------

09-18-2001, 04:44 AM	#9
Mach 1 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,866	Stay home. We got your back. My wife is 6 months pregnant, and I have a very high chance of being deployed, so, no reason for everybody to suffer. ------------------ 1993 GT/AOD '93 Mustang GT

09-18-2001, 08:49 AM	#10
mustang marty gt Guest Posts: n/a	best of luck to you MACH1 we will be praying for you & your'es keep it low to the ground bro take care & god be with you alway's. ------------------

09-19-2001, 01:35 AM	#11
Topless In Texas Not broken anymore! Join Date: May 2001 Location: La Porte, TEXASS :) Posts: 1,963	Bigwhitecobra, Mach1, PonyPower, and the others...YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME!!! It's times like this that I feel priveledged to 'know' people like ya'll!!! Do what you feel you need to do!! I'm sure your families are very proud of ya'lls commitments at this time. I would just lay in the balance at this time...there are too many others that are so eager to serve that are not expecting babies!! BUT, that is your decision. Either way, your children would be proud of ya'll!!!! Thank you!!! Topless ------------------ 1994 GT CONVERTIBLE TOPLESS IN TEXAS Girls can too's July "Mare of the Month" Performance Red. Cold Air Ind.,K&N,H.P. Pulleys,OffRoad H-Pipe,Subframe Connectors,Flows,3.55,Light bar,Custom HeadRests.Lotta Chrome

09-19-2001, 02:46 AM	#12
Mach 1 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,866	Hey, thanks everybody. At this point in time, I dont think Ill be getting deployed, and Im thinking my unit might leave me behind considering my wife is prego, if we do get deployed. Eithier way, appreciate all the support.

09-19-2001, 05:23 PM	#13
Mustangbelle306 Yay for Chickys Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,532	I seriously think you really don't have to worry about it. Thanks to all the piss a$$ bleeding heart liberals that are crying and moaning about how the poor civilians have nothing to do with Bin Laden, I'm sure all they will do is try to extradite him and try him. I don't think anyone has to worry about doing their duty. ------------------ Elisha~5.0 HO Racing (ahem HIGH OUTPUT!) 1994 GT: The Primered Wonder! Email: Belle@Mustangworks.com AOL name: FZRBelle306

09-20-2001, 02:16 AM	#14
todd95GT Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Palm Beach Gardens, Florida, USA Posts: 191	Here's my opinion. When I was a teenager, I really wanted to join the service. But women and other bad habits (no offense ladies)seemed to be more of a priority at the time. I am presently a police officer so in that way, I express my patriotism by my swearing to uphold the constitution of the United States as well as the constitution of the State of Florida. I regret not joining the service when I was younger, and like every other American, feel the true NEED for the first time in my life to enlist. I am as outraged and angry over this entire situation like all of you. Before I continue rambling, my point is this: I admire anyone who has served this country, whether in peacetime or war. It takes a true patriot to do so. But patriotism to me is like believing in God in this sense-I say you don't have to go to church or synagogue to have faith in the same way you can truly be patriotic without serving in the Armed Forces. You guys that have families or families to be, this is the time to think of them. This is a situation that, like every other use of force, will cause many of our boys in uniform to lose their lives. Understandably, that's an unfortunate circumstance of war, but if the life of a father, husband, brother, etc, can be saved, then by all means do so. Surely, fathers and brothers will be lost as this situation escalates, but I feel staying stateside with your children is more important than leaving behind an orphan. Best of luck in your decision though. Whichever it may be, it will be the right one. Having the desire to go overseas, especially to the degree where you felt the need to post this topic, says a lot about your character and dedication to this country. ------------------ Todd 1995 GT/T-5 Pulleys; 65 mm TB; Flowmaster cat-back; Mac off road H-pipe; FMS aluminum driveshaft; short-throw shifter; HD clutch; Cobra R's; Cobra front and wing

09-20-2001, 12:43 PM	#15
SMOKE Old School ROUSH Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Stockbridge, GA Posts: 531	Wow. I'm currently serving and honored more as an American to here those of you wanting to join the fight. Awesome, but this guidance I give freely to you fine Americans. First it is a huge decision to join the service but if you've served or have members serving now trust in us and the govn't because this War will be a long drawn out affair and the need it not there and I can honestly say ... shouldn't arise. As an Air Force member I know no one does it better and these terrorist will be found and brought to justice. So, stay at home buy stocks and keep the economy going and understand there are many f us ready to go in harms way first and pray we can come home and roast the tires and wash the mustang some weekend soon. ------------------ K! Personalized Black 98 SVO Blown DVD/TV equipped daily driver Stage II ROUSH without the side exhaust Dyno 303rwhp 338rwtrq Still working out the kinks!!!

09-20-2001, 01:03 PM	#16
69fastback IRAQ VET Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: high desert California Posts: 1,480	ok i cant resonded con m;letley. I love erey thing any ine has done for me i lave u all i just wish there was saw somowmonae s goon as u

09-21-2001, 04:42 PM	#17
bada$$lx Guest Posts: n/a	I know exactly what you guys are talking about......I'm sort of torn myself, but I have a wife and we're planning on starting a family shortly. If I wasn't, I'd already be enlisted or down at the recruiters office. I've got 2 friends and 1 cousin that have already been shipped out to the Persian Gulf and Germany. Because of my commitment to my wife and future child, I cannot leave here. If it is necessary in the future, and if I'm called upon by Uncle Sam, I will fight proudly w/ all my heart and might for this country. Military's been in my family, but like todd95 said - women and other "social activites" kind of were more important back in the day. Good luck to all of you who are shipping out and know that we appreciate your service to this country. Our prayers are with you.

09-22-2001, 02:25 AM	#18
Mach 1 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,866	hey, wait a minute. Ive had way more than my share of woman and "social activities", but I still enlisted. I had my own reasons for enlisting, NONE of which were patriotic in nature, and you guys that didnt enlist, and are having sudden feelings of patriotism, you dont have to make excuses, please, spare us, if you wanted to do it bad enough, you would have done it, regardless of woman or anything else.

09-22-2001, 02:41 AM	#19
mustang marty gt Guest Posts: n/a	you said it all mach 1 ,i tried to go to the nam was too young ,missed by 1 year , went to beirut , went to the gulf war , want to go now but can't , gulf war syn , wish i could put in my last 8 year's to go but can not so my hope's , thought's & prayer's are with all of our armed force's i feel that , you are all my comrades . just a thought from an old vet. god bless you all & may we not lose one single one of you, we have lost enough people for ,one crazy a$$ed reason if you could call it reason .i don't,take care. [This message has been edited by mustang marty gt (edited 09-22-2001).]

09-22-2001, 06:40 AM	#20
69fastback IRAQ VET Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: high desert California Posts: 1,480	Damn I dont even rember Posting on here. I have no clue of what the hell i was trying to write. They just let everyone here have beer again for the first time so i got a little wasted and didn't know what the hell i was doing. U should have seen the lines at the class six. Women and social acctives. I will tell u one thing my two years in the army i have had way more women and social activites than i did in my 4 years of college. Women love men in uniform. Anyway ALL the support is appriciated but we do have plenty of people to get the job done.