Hotrod?

95mustanggt · 12-16-2002, 04:29 PM

I was watching TV the other night and I turned to some import car show. I thought that I would watch a minute or 2 and see what was going on with these cars. I was pretty sure that the guys on TV would be a lot cooler than the little peckers I've always met.

So they start talking about a hotrod civic.

It had some super-duper yakazushi kawa-bling-bling exhaust, a carbon fibre hood, a carbon fibre wing, after market rims and a bunch of fancy faggy pinstriping. WTF makes a car like THAT a hotrod????.

To me a hotrod is atleast a muscle car, if not older, has a bunch of speed goodies, bigger engine, performance exhaust, lumpy cam, big carb. This little rice burner had none of this (with possible exception of the exhaust).

WTF!?!? What do you think of when you think of a "hotrod"?

MidNiteBlu 5.0 · 12-16-2002, 04:56 PM

My definition of a hot rod has always been a 20's 30's or 40's car with a big engine, lots of custom work done, (shaving, sectioning etc) and a really nice paint job often flamed. I know the term is used rather loosely but thats always been my definition.

The Deuce · 12-16-2002, 05:04 PM

According to webster:

hot rod also hot-rod (htrd)
n. Slang
An automobile that has been rebuilt or modified to increase its speed and acceleration

According to me:

Big motor, big cam, big gear, little car. If its a Deuce, even better.

Hammer · 12-16-2002, 05:05 PM

Hotrod Civic is like Military Intelligence.

Two words that should never be together...

0h n0 5.0 · 12-16-2002, 05:05 PM

hot rods were built to spill, tear up the pavement, piss of the neighbors, get horrible gas milage.. an be loads of fun. original hot rods were factory colors, maybe some kustom pinstripping or flames or a black primer paint job. channeled bodies, frenched headlights, sectioned hoods..these are hot rod.

that import show is Hi- rev tunerz an its sposored by the douche bags at pep-boys, its 99.9 percent showcar related an 1% actual performance oriented(las night they put in an air kit)

Mr 5 0 · 12-16-2002, 05:54 PM

This is the kind of thing that really pisses off muscle car people.

These little (mostly) foreign fart-cars are not only buzzing around America pretending to be fast via paint, plastic add-ons and stickers but they even adopt terms that should never be used for a ricemobile. 'Hot Rod' is a distinct American term used to describe the old 1930's and '40's cars street racers modified back in the post-war era (late 1940's to late 50's) and what the Big Three manufacturers eventually used as a template for the muscle cars of the 1960's. Light bodies, big engines and all the extras that make a car fast off the showroom floor.

The flathead-powered V-8 Fords that street racers coveted in the '50's were a prime example of this, with 'Offy' heads, '3/4 race' cams, duel exhausts and so on with a floor shift for the 3-speed transmission. Yeah, the Barris creations carried the look over the top but the basic 1955 Hot Rod was probably a 1932, '36, '40 or '49 Ford and it always had some kind of engine modification and often a much bigger engine, like an Olds 303 V-8.

Hot Rod, although a broad term that technically can include any car that is noticably modified, should not be applied to a Honda Civic with a bunch of junk on it, running 17-second quarters. They are stealing a great American car term and misusing it. That's wrong but a technical error that probably no one outside of muscle car fans will notice or care about; certainly not some kid with a gunked-up ricemobile and a fart pipe thinking he's 'kewl' as he whels mom's cast-off grocery-getter around town.

Yeah, yeah, they're are fast ricemobiles and they're are 7-second Mustangs too but the majority of the ricemobiles are fake and gaudy and have little relation to a real Hot Rod as most Americans understand the term.

Coupe Devil · 12-16-2002, 06:04 PM

If it has one of those its not a Freakin HOT ROD..
And welcome back Mr 5.0

Bradley

Conman · 12-17-2002, 12:34 AM

One night I saw that hi-rev tunerz and they were explaining what VTEC stands for. I don't even own a honda and I know what it stands for.
It's like telling us what EFI stands for

should be common knowledge for the little buggers but apparently it isn't

Crazy Horse GT · 12-17-2002, 12:47 AM

rice & hot rod's are, like hammer said, military intelligence, welcome back jim, we miss you.

12-16-2002, 04:29 PM	#1
95mustanggt Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Kamloops, BC Posts: 2,875	Hotrod? I was watching TV the other night and I turned to some import car show. I thought that I would watch a minute or 2 and see what was going on with these cars. I was pretty sure that the guys on TV would be a lot cooler than the little peckers I've always met. So they start talking about a hotrod civic. It had some super-duper yakazushi kawa-bling-bling exhaust, a carbon fibre hood, a carbon fibre wing, after market rims and a bunch of fancy faggy pinstriping. WTF makes a car like THAT a hotrod????. To me a hotrod is atleast a muscle car, if not older, has a bunch of speed goodies, bigger engine, performance exhaust, lumpy cam, big carb. This little rice burner had none of this (with possible exception of the exhaust). WTF!?!? What do you think of when you think of a "hotrod"? __________________ 1995 Mustang GT 20016 F150 Lariat Super Crew

12-16-2002, 04:56 PM	#2
MidNiteBlu 5.0 I got something to say Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,557	My definition of a hot rod has always been a 20's 30's or 40's car with a big engine, lots of custom work done, (shaving, sectioning etc) and a really nice paint job often flamed. I know the term is used rather loosely but thats always been my definition. __________________ 91 LX Hatch 5.0 - made for the twisties 89 LX Hatchback 5.0 5spd. stolen/stripped 4/7/05 http://www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/...splay.cgi?3494 1987 Toyota Pickup Ricer Haters Club Member #33 Want a custom gauge cluster for your Vintage Mustang? www.jmeenterprises.com

12-16-2002, 05:04 PM	#3
The Deuce Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,325	According to webster: hot rod also hot-rod (htrd) n. Slang An automobile that has been rebuilt or modified to increase its speed and acceleration According to me: Big motor, big cam, big gear, little car. If its a Deuce, even better. __________________ 1997 Mustang GT "The Freak" - 13.80 @ 101.70, 2.07 60' 1995 Honda VFR750 - not much @ really fast (actual data pending.) 1964.5 Mustang 289 Rice Haters Club Member #13

12-16-2002, 05:05 PM	#4
Hammer AKA "Dr. Evil" Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: South Fork Ranch Posts: 1,721	Hotrod Civic is like Military Intelligence. Two words that should never be together... __________________ Uncle Sam "What the hell is up with all the gauges? Calling Captain Kirk, your ride awaits... Phasers on stun...."

12-16-2002, 05:05 PM	#5
0h n0 5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Birmingham, Alabama Posts: 371	hot rods were built to spill, tear up the pavement, piss of the neighbors, get horrible gas milage.. an be loads of fun. original hot rods were factory colors, maybe some kustom pinstripping or flames or a black primer paint job. channeled bodies, frenched headlights, sectioned hoods..these are hot rod. that import show is Hi- rev tunerz an its sposored by the douche bags at pep-boys, its 99.9 percent showcar related an 1% actual performance oriented(las night they put in an air kit) __________________ 0h n0 5.0 Alias:94five0, Vr00m, Black Shuck 1994 GT 5.0l

12-16-2002, 05:54 PM	#6
Mr 5 0 Conservative Individualist Join Date: May 1997 Location: Wherever I need to be Posts: 7,487	You call that riceburner a Hot Rod? This is the kind of thing that really pisses off muscle car people. These little (mostly) foreign fart-cars are not only buzzing around America pretending to be fast via paint, plastic add-ons and stickers but they even adopt terms that should never be used for a ricemobile. 'Hot Rod' is a distinct American term used to describe the old 1930's and '40's cars street racers modified back in the post-war era (late 1940's to late 50's) and what the Big Three manufacturers eventually used as a template for the muscle cars of the 1960's. Light bodies, big engines and all the extras that make a car fast off the showroom floor. The flathead-powered V-8 Fords that street racers coveted in the '50's were a prime example of this, with 'Offy' heads, '3/4 race' cams, duel exhausts and so on with a floor shift for the 3-speed transmission. Yeah, the Barris creations carried the look over the top but the basic 1955 Hot Rod was probably a 1932, '36, '40 or '49 Ford and it always had some kind of engine modification and often a much bigger engine, like an Olds 303 V-8. Hot Rod, although a broad term that technically can include any car that is noticably modified, should not be applied to a Honda Civic with a bunch of junk on it, running 17-second quarters. They are stealing a great American car term and misusing it. That's wrong but a technical error that probably no one outside of muscle car fans will notice or care about; certainly not some kid with a gunked-up ricemobile and a fart pipe thinking he's 'kewl' as he whels mom's cast-off grocery-getter around town. Yeah, yeah, they're are fast ricemobiles and they're are 7-second Mustangs too but the majority of the ricemobiles are fake and gaudy and have little relation to a real Hot Rod as most Americans understand the term. __________________ 5.0 Mustang Owner 1990 - 2005

12-16-2002, 06:04 PM	#7
Coupe Devil Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Myrtle Beach SC Posts: 1,643	If it has one of those its not a Freakin HOT ROD.. And welcome back Mr 5.0 Bradley __________________ 1990 GT, 347, TFS TW Heads, TFS Cam, TFS Track heat, Twin turbos, FMIC, T5. Built Ford Tough Moderator

12-17-2002, 12:34 AM	#8
Conman Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kingston, Ontario Posts: 351	One night I saw that hi-rev tunerz and they were explaining what VTEC stands for. I don't even own a honda and I know what it stands for. It's like telling us what EFI stands for should be common knowledge for the little buggers but apparently it isn't __________________ '88 lx, Black on Black, check it out here Spent all my money on school, what a dumb mistake I'm old enough to know better, but still too young to care.

12-17-2002, 12:47 AM	#9
Crazy Horse GT Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sale Creek, TN. C. S. A. Posts: 4,652	rice & hot rod's are, like hammer said, military intelligence, welcome back jim, we miss you. __________________ 95 gt vert, lot's of stuff, it aint slow. 04 sonic blue v - six my beater 89 rs camaro iroc turbo hood, other stuff, my wifes ride 84 lx stang cammed up 289 hi po, etc 65 falcon, maybe by the year 2020. black 00gt, gone but never forgotten. R H C- member # 1 o.b.c. da prez- member # 1 if your under 40 dont ask. goodbye for now odie,r.i.p. 11-27-03

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