New 390 HP Cobra nice to see

95mustanggt · 01-28-2002, 02:07 PM

The new 390HP Supercharged 4.6L DOHC is nice to see. So is the T56 transmission.

Even if they did make the Camero SS and Firebird WS6, they would be no match for such a Cobra.

I wonder what the sticker price will be on that puppy?

StoplightWarrior · 01-28-2002, 04:50 PM

Yeah! Up the boost, throw an exhaust system on, and some sticky tires, and Z06's will be no match!

Go Ford!

Rebel79 · 01-28-2002, 04:52 PM

Yeah I am assuming that the new blown Cobra will be similiar to the Lightning, whereas you just have to swap out the blower and or crank pulley to up the horsepower. Its almost TOO easy.

69fastback · 01-28-2002, 07:01 PM

Is that a sure thing or just another one of those dang rummors that gets are hopes up?

91GTturbo · 01-28-2002, 07:05 PM

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Originally posted by 69fastback
Is that a sure thing or just another one of those dang rummors that gets are hopes up?

It's on the cover of Motor Trend I believe. Haven't read the article myself, but I have read some other stuff about it on the net. I think they listed the price for a vert as around $35,000, so hopefully you can get a coupe for around $32,000.

6T9PONY · 01-28-2002, 10:26 PM

hmm....supercharged....and only 390 hp????? I'm sure Ford could to better than that pretty easily.....why don't they????

fiveohpatrol · 01-28-2002, 10:41 PM

I'm sure that 390 is underrated, either that or they just said that its 390 at the motor when its really at the wheels!

the 01 R was rated at 385 and dyno'd in the 370's, so thats way under rated, Im sure thats what they're doing with this one too

Rebel79 · 01-29-2002, 02:32 AM

Dan and I discussed this in great detail. We came up with that Ford probably dropped the compression ration on the Cobra motor to about 8.5:1 like they did with the Lightning motor. The they threw a blower on it. Its probably making around 8-9 psi with that compression ratio to only make 390fwhp. If they used the stock compression ratio they most likely used 5-6 psi and detuned the EEC for motor health reasons. I don't know if this blower will be intercooled or not. With the small horsepower jump its possible that its not, but yet again the Lightning only makes what like 380hp with a 5.4 so anything is possible. But I will tell you one thing...... with a lower compression ratio the engine should be able to hold up to much more boost than a pre 03 Cobra motor! :-D

Fox Body · 01-29-2002, 04:31 AM

Could you add a big intercooler to such an blown setup if it didn't have one? Then you could go with , say, 10 pounds of boost with little worry of engine failure, use 93 octane gas, and also with stock timing.

Rocket 99GT · 01-29-2002, 10:47 AM

hmm.... I wonder what will happened if GM guys also decide to put a supercharger in their new SS or firebird?.

Rebel79 · 01-29-2002, 10:51 AM

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Originally posted by Fox Body
Could you add a big intercooler to such an blown setup if it didn't have one? Then you could go with , say, 10 pounds of boost with little worry of engine failure, use 93 octane gas, and also with stock timing.

Well if it did not come with an intercooler, it would be impossible to install a normal style intercooler considering its a roots style blower which IS the upper intake of the engine. It would be kinda hard to re-route the intake runners to go to the intercooler mounted under the front bumper and back to the intake ports of the heads. :-D

Mercury · 01-29-2002, 11:38 AM

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Originally posted by Rocket 99GT
hmm.... I wonder what will happened if GM guys also decide to put a supercharger in their new SS or firebird?.

Umm after the 5500-7000 grand price, I'm sure they'll love destroying internal engine parts.

If I remember, doesnt the LS-1 already kind have a high compression? If I remember its not a very boost freindly one.

There arent any new FireBirds or Camaros to be had. To say there will be is only speculation.

Plus the possible return of the Camaro, and unlikely return of the FireBird does not mean the return of the LS-1. Gm has been developing and working on a small displacement V8 for a while now, and it has not seen production in any of there vehicles.

I wanna say its like a 3.9 L.

To me that indicates that if they are rising from the grave anytimes soon, they will probably be carying the small displacement V8.

390 HP on the Cobra is probably underated. But dont forget emission plays a big roll in todays vehicles.

69fastback · 01-29-2002, 12:00 PM

wow that is cool. I am glad that it is really goinng to happen. We will see what it is really capble of when it hits the track.

mike_navigator · 01-29-2002, 09:53 PM

Where in the heck do you get all your info.

hope to see ya saturday.

01-28-2002, 02:07 PM	#1
95mustanggt Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Kamloops, BC Posts: 2,875	New 390 HP Cobra nice to see The new 390HP Supercharged 4.6L DOHC is nice to see. So is the T56 transmission. Even if they did make the Camero SS and Firebird WS6, they would be no match for such a Cobra. I wonder what the sticker price will be on that puppy? __________________ 1995 Mustang GT 20016 F150 Lariat Super Crew

01-28-2002, 04:50 PM	#2
StoplightWarrior Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Nor-Cal Posts: 1,311	Yeah! Up the boost, throw an exhaust system on, and some sticky tires, and Z06's will be no match! Go Ford! __________________ Black 2000 GT Auto V2-SQ, Full Steeda G-trac Suspension, Baer Brakes, Saleen Body Kit, Corbeau CR1s, Chrome Cobra R's, etc, etc... 341rwhp, 338 torque 1994 Cobra #4343 Bolt on's only... Cofounder of Raccoon Racing

01-28-2002, 04:52 PM	#3
Rebel79 News Editor Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: Concord, CA Posts: 2,101	Yeah I am assuming that the new blown Cobra will be similiar to the Lightning, whereas you just have to swap out the blower and or crank pulley to up the horsepower. Its almost TOO easy. __________________ Scott Halihan, News Editor The MustangWorks Magazine 1994 Supercharged Mustang Cobra Rebel Racing. Home of Bay Area Mustangs

01-28-2002, 07:01 PM	#4
69fastback IRAQ VET Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: high desert California Posts: 1,480	Is that a sure thing or just another one of those dang rummors that gets are hopes up? __________________ 428 Cobra Jet SOHC 5.4 3V F-150 96 mystic cobra 91 GT

01-28-2002, 10:41 PM	#7
fiveohpatrol I'd rather be basketweaving Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,551	I'm sure that 390 is underrated, either that or they just said that its 390 at the motor when its really at the wheels! the 01 R was rated at 385 and dyno'd in the 370's, so thats way under rated, Im sure thats what they're doing with this one too __________________ NMRA O/C 9516 NA pumpgas stickshift 347 10.65@125.6, 6.73@100, 1.41 60ft

01-28-2002, 10:26 PM	#6
6T9PONY All about the Windsor. Join Date: Feb 2000 Posts: 2,052	hmm....supercharged....and only 390 hp????? I'm sure Ford could to better than that pretty easily.....why don't they????

01-29-2002, 02:32 AM	#8
Rebel79 News Editor Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: Concord, CA Posts: 2,101	Dan and I discussed this in great detail. We came up with that Ford probably dropped the compression ration on the Cobra motor to about 8.5:1 like they did with the Lightning motor. The they threw a blower on it. Its probably making around 8-9 psi with that compression ratio to only make 390fwhp. If they used the stock compression ratio they most likely used 5-6 psi and detuned the EEC for motor health reasons. I don't know if this blower will be intercooled or not. With the small horsepower jump its possible that its not, but yet again the Lightning only makes what like 380hp with a 5.4 so anything is possible. But I will tell you one thing...... with a lower compression ratio the engine should be able to hold up to much more boost than a pre 03 Cobra motor! :-D __________________ Scott Halihan, News Editor The MustangWorks Magazine 1994 Supercharged Mustang Cobra Rebel Racing. Home of Bay Area Mustangs

01-29-2002, 04:31 AM	#9
Fox Body Mustang Maniac Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: GA, U.S.A Posts: 2,266	Could you add a big intercooler to such an blown setup if it didn't have one? Then you could go with , say, 10 pounds of boost with little worry of engine failure, use 93 octane gas, and also with stock timing. __________________ 351W-powered 1979 Ford Mustang Ghia notchback '79 Video @ Idle Stock 5.8L under 4" cowl 'glass hood, C4 w/ Transgo shift kit, Holley 750 cfm, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake; Fluidyne Al radiator, Flexalite 175 electric fan, 1 5/8" MAC shorty headers, FRPP Al driveshaft; S&W 6-point cage; 2.5" Off road H-pipe, 2-chamber Flowmasters, 8.8" Rear w/ 3.55s; Weld wheels (15x6;15x8), Front: 225/60/15, Rear: 275/50/15 Nitto NT 555R Drag Radials; 14 x 4” K&N X-stream air filter. '92 GT (5-speed) Small In Car Video Stock 5.0L, 2-chamber Flowmasters, MAC CAI, Tri-Ax, Al pedals... "Red, thou art my companion. Hasten now your quickened metamorphosis to Green that I may conquer all who dare abide there beside me. May they be left thither behind burnt black." ---Fox Body

01-29-2002, 10:47 AM	#10
Rocket 99GT Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: gaithersburg md, 20879 usa Posts: 120	hmm.... I wonder what will happened if GM guys also decide to put a supercharger in their new SS or firebird?.

01-29-2002, 12:00 PM	#13
69fastback IRAQ VET Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: high desert California Posts: 1,480	wow that is cool. I am glad that it is really goinng to happen. We will see what it is really capble of when it hits the track. __________________ 428 Cobra Jet SOHC 5.4 3V F-150 96 mystic cobra 91 GT

01-29-2002, 09:53 PM	#14
mike_navigator Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: fayetteville nc Posts: 188	Merc Where in the heck do you get all your info. hope to see ya saturday. __________________ 93 COBRA vehicle# 689 of 4993 MODS K&N, two chamber flows. admin of www.v8tec.com

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