got a noob question

02torchredGT · 09-06-2002, 07:39 PM

ok, i can't seem to get my gt to bark in second gear, is there a secret to it? i must be a horrible driver, the gt should chirp third
and i can't even get a chirp in second.

The Deuce · 09-06-2002, 09:36 PM

5-spd or auto?

If its a stick, you need to shift high, fast and hard to get rubber in 2nd. I wouldn't recommend doing it all the time as its really hard on the trans.

When you hit second get out of the clutch as fast as you can. If you can't do it fast enough, side step it. But again, I don't recommned it.

tireburner163 · 09-07-2002, 02:58 AM

Learn to shift idiot!!!!

Hammer · 09-07-2002, 08:31 AM

Strap a Vortech on it... you'll be able to bark 2nd then...

Mustang92 · 09-07-2002, 08:48 AM

Shift at 5900-6000 and you'll be able to chirp it.

Bill

98gt5sp · 09-07-2002, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mustang92
Shift at 5900-6000 and you'll be able to chirp it.

You can chirp without having to go that high, like The Deuce said, you need to shift really fast, maybe at around 5200-5500 so that when you engage in second gear it still has a lot of gas.

Quote:

Originally posted by 02torchredGT
the gt should chirp third

Ummm, I've never heard of a GT chirping 3rd without quite a bit more horsepower than stock.

VeNuM · 09-07-2002, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Ummm, I've never heard of a GT chirping 3rd without quite a bit more horsepower than stock.

My friend's 99GT Vert 5-speed chirped hitting 3rd pretty easy speed shifting with the traction control off.

96_4.6 · 09-07-2002, 07:29 PM

Hey does my 96gt have traction control and if so how do you turn it on\off? Drove an iroc for 3 years so this mustang is still new to me, thanks

The Deuce · 09-07-2002, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 96_4.6
Hey does my 96gt have traction control and if so how do you turn it on\off? Drove an iroc for 3 years so this mustang is still new to me, thanks

We cannot answer that question without looking inside the car. Do this though.... Hold launch at 3,000 rpms(rev that high, side step clutch). If you spin like a SOB and start to slide out, you do NOT have traction control.

If you do not spin, look for a button marked traction control.

09-07-2002, 08:19 PM

There is no way a stock GT chirps in 3rd, at least shifting with the clutch. I've never speed shifted my car (without using the clutch), so if you've experienced a 3rd chirp stock speed shifting I believe you.

Speaking to Hammers reference to the Vortech.....my '00 GT more than chirped when I had the Vortech installed, but once I had the 3.73 gears put in with the Vortech, Holy Freaking Moly, the first time I really got on it and slammed it into second (and I was using the clutch) I laid about 15 feet of rubber down and the car practically swung around on me, and this was on the street (meaning excellent traction) and I had my BFG Drag Radials on. What a shocking combination, Vortech and 3.73's!! Now if I could only learn to drive at the track!

02torchredGT · 09-07-2002, 08:54 PM

Hey does my 96gt have traction control and if so how do you turn it on\off? Drove an iroc for 3 years so this mustang is still new to me, thanks

thats a negative ghost rider, the 96 gt's did not come with traction control.

Mustang92 · 09-07-2002, 11:06 PM

I could chirp third in my car when it was bone stock but only when the motor and tires were cold. This is without power shifting.

Bill

Titan · 09-08-2002, 03:32 AM

I've chirped third in my car, but only now that I have 3.73's. Start off in second and drop the clutch, you will spin forever...then you can hit third if you shift right.

Ok, what's this about speed-shifting, w/ out the clutch??? Wouldn't you see parts of your tranny bouncing down the road in your rearview? I want to try this (sound like fun), but I don't want to pay 3K for a new tranny + install. So, is this that bad for your car?

Blue01GT · 09-08-2002, 03:58 AM

Yea i chirped third once when i was bone stock. it was very cold outside and my car wasnt that warm yet and my tires were a little bit worn (back when i had the goodyears)

Now that i got a few mods i chirp third whenever i feel like it HAHAHA

Mustang92 · 09-08-2002, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Titan
Ok, what's this about speed-shifting, w/ out the clutch??? Wouldn't you see parts of your tranny bouncing down the road in your rearview? I want to try this (sound like fun), but I don't want to pay 3K for a new tranny + install. So, is this that bad for your car?

Yes do not do it unless you have plans for a new tranny. Shifting without the clutch is a huge mistake. Although what I do know though I've only got 88K miles on mine with 600 passes of abuse behind it.

Bill

Titan · 09-08-2002, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mustang92
Yes do not do it unless you have plans for a new tranny. Shifting without the clutch is a huge mistake. Although what I do know though I've only got 88K miles on mine with 600 passes of abuse behind it.

Bill

So you do speed-shift when you race, or you don't? Also, isn't there some type of guard on a manual that makes you press in the clutch? What do you do, just muscle through it? I have the stock shifter--I want to up it to a pro 5.0.

Mustang92 · 09-08-2002, 01:50 PM

Well shifting without the clutch is sheer stupidity in the first place so I wouldn't even bother trying it. It serves no purpose and will not make you run any faster. Power shifting is shifting as fast as you can without letting off the gas. Speed shifting is shifting as fast as you can but letting up on the gas just slightly. The only problem with power shifting is that our EEC's have code that can sense a WOT shift and will pull timing so really unless you have that over ridden with a chip then even power shifting isn't going to do much.

I speed shift, it's the only reason my trans has lasted so long.

Bill

Titan · 09-08-2002, 03:57 PM

Thanks

The Deuce · 09-08-2002, 08:55 PM

Since we are talking about it, it is possible to shift without the cluch, and not hurt the trans.

I don't recomend the following with ours, but if you get a hold of an econo-box show off for your friends..

The trans will slide right into gear if you pull out of gear, and match engine rpms to what they would be in the next gear. This way everything is spinning at the same speed and it will slide right in. Try this between 3 and 4 with a Civic, rolling at 35. Don't do it especially fast, just pull out and rest some pressure on the stick and watch it slide in.

Like I said, don't do this to your mustang. I've done it in other cars I've driven, and its a pretty cool trick.

stangman96 · 09-13-2002, 04:39 PM

Learn to shift idiot!!!! that was uncalled for

how rude.......... you may not be able to hit second cuz of your gear ratio, what do you have, possibly 2.73's, if so, some 3.73's will hook you up, i had that combo and now i can get it up to 3rd and when the road is wet, sometimes even to 5th, but just wheel spin...... but it is hella fun spinning in the rain.......

09-06-2002, 07:39 PM	#1
02torchredGT Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: virgina Posts: 14	got a noob question ok, i can't seem to get my gt to bark in second gear, is there a secret to it? i must be a horrible driver, the gt should chirp third and i can't even get a chirp in second.

09-06-2002, 09:36 PM	#2
The Deuce Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,325	5-spd or auto? If its a stick, you need to shift high, fast and hard to get rubber in 2nd. I wouldn't recommend doing it all the time as its really hard on the trans. When you hit second get out of the clutch as fast as you can. If you can't do it fast enough, side step it. But again, I don't recommned it. __________________ 1997 Mustang GT "The Freak" - 13.80 @ 101.70, 2.07 60' 1995 Honda VFR750 - not much @ really fast (actual data pending.) 1964.5 Mustang 289 Rice Haters Club Member #13

09-07-2002, 02:58 AM	#3
tireburner163 It's a lot like a race car Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Meridian, MS Posts: 4,130	Learn to shift idiot!!!! __________________ 1987 Buick T-type 1998 HD Electra Elide

09-07-2002, 08:31 AM	#4
Hammer AKA "Dr. Evil" Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: South Fork Ranch Posts: 1,721	Strap a Vortech on it... you'll be able to bark 2nd then... __________________ Uncle Sam "What the hell is up with all the gauges? Calling Captain Kirk, your ride awaits... Phasers on stun...."

09-07-2002, 08:48 AM	#5
Mustang92 Drag Racer! Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Lake Worth, FL USA Posts: 757	Shift at 5900-6000 and you'll be able to chirp it. Bill __________________ 2000 GT VRS O/R X, Dynomax Bullets, Steeda Pulleys, Pro-M 80MM, 4.30s, UPR Pro Series Suspension, UPR Tubular K-member, MAC Longtubes, Bullitt Intake, TKO, VT Engine Stage 1 NA Cams, SCT Tune. 285 RWHP/296 RWTQ 11.97 @ 113.20 M/M 100, 7085 www.uprproducts.com www.ponyexpressperformance.com www.modulardepot.com

09-07-2002, 07:29 PM	#8
96_4.6 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 417	Hey does my 96gt have traction control and if so how do you turn it on\off? Drove an iroc for 3 years so this mustang is still new to me, thanks __________________ 1996 Mustang GT, AODE -Trickflow Upper Plenum -BBK 70mm Throttlebody -02 PI Lower Intake -March Pulleys -BBK H-Pipe -2 Chamber Flowmaster mufflers -3000 RPM Stall -JLT CAI with special K&N -MSD Supercondutor wires -180 stat -FRPP 4:10's *FOR SALE C&L TRUE FLOW INLET PIPE WITH K&N* My Stang

09-07-2002, 08:19 PM	#10
apenn Guest Posts: n/a	Ahhh The Old Speed Shift Trick! There is no way a stock GT chirps in 3rd, at least shifting with the clutch. I've never speed shifted my car (without using the clutch), so if you've experienced a 3rd chirp stock speed shifting I believe you. Speaking to Hammers reference to the Vortech.....my '00 GT more than chirped when I had the Vortech installed, but once I had the 3.73 gears put in with the Vortech, Holy Freaking Moly, the first time I really got on it and slammed it into second (and I was using the clutch) I laid about 15 feet of rubber down and the car practically swung around on me, and this was on the street (meaning excellent traction) and I had my BFG Drag Radials on. What a shocking combination, Vortech and 3.73's!! Now if I could only learn to drive at the track!

09-07-2002, 08:54 PM	#11
02torchredGT Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: virgina Posts: 14	Hey does my 96gt have traction control and if so how do you turn it on\off? Drove an iroc for 3 years so this mustang is still new to me, thanks thats a negative ghost rider, the 96 gt's did not come with traction control.

09-07-2002, 11:06 PM	#12
Mustang92 Drag Racer! Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Lake Worth, FL USA Posts: 757	I could chirp third in my car when it was bone stock but only when the motor and tires were cold. This is without power shifting. Bill __________________ 2000 GT VRS O/R X, Dynomax Bullets, Steeda Pulleys, Pro-M 80MM, 4.30s, UPR Pro Series Suspension, UPR Tubular K-member, MAC Longtubes, Bullitt Intake, TKO, VT Engine Stage 1 NA Cams, SCT Tune. 285 RWHP/296 RWTQ 11.97 @ 113.20 M/M 100, 7085 www.uprproducts.com www.ponyexpressperformance.com www.modulardepot.com

09-08-2002, 03:32 AM	#13
Titan Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Atlanta Posts: 296	I've chirped third in my car, but only now that I have 3.73's. Start off in second and drop the clutch, you will spin forever...then you can hit third if you shift right. Ok, what's this about speed-shifting, w/ out the clutch??? Wouldn't you see parts of your tranny bouncing down the road in your rearview? I want to try this (sound like fun), but I don't want to pay 3K for a new tranny + install. So, is this that bad for your car? __________________ Current Sophomore -- Mechanical Engineering Black on Black 98' GT 5-Speed Mods = Stuff

09-08-2002, 03:58 AM	#14
Blue01GT Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 34	Yea i chirped third once when i was bone stock. it was very cold outside and my car wasnt that warm yet and my tires were a little bit worn (back when i had the goodyears) Now that i got a few mods i chirp third whenever i feel like it HAHAHA __________________ 2001 GT with Steeda u/d Pulleys, Steeda timing adjuster, 3.73 gears, and Tri-Ax short shifter.

09-08-2002, 01:50 PM	#17
Mustang92 Drag Racer! Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Lake Worth, FL USA Posts: 757	Well shifting without the clutch is sheer stupidity in the first place so I wouldn't even bother trying it. It serves no purpose and will not make you run any faster. Power shifting is shifting as fast as you can without letting off the gas. Speed shifting is shifting as fast as you can but letting up on the gas just slightly. The only problem with power shifting is that our EEC's have code that can sense a WOT shift and will pull timing so really unless you have that over ridden with a chip then even power shifting isn't going to do much. I speed shift, it's the only reason my trans has lasted so long. Bill __________________ 2000 GT VRS O/R X, Dynomax Bullets, Steeda Pulleys, Pro-M 80MM, 4.30s, UPR Pro Series Suspension, UPR Tubular K-member, MAC Longtubes, Bullitt Intake, TKO, VT Engine Stage 1 NA Cams, SCT Tune. 285 RWHP/296 RWTQ 11.97 @ 113.20 M/M 100, 7085 www.uprproducts.com www.ponyexpressperformance.com www.modulardepot.com

09-08-2002, 03:57 PM	#18
Titan Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Atlanta Posts: 296	Thanks __________________ Current Sophomore -- Mechanical Engineering Black on Black 98' GT 5-Speed Mods = Stuff

09-08-2002, 08:55 PM	#19
The Deuce Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,325	Since we are talking about it, it is possible to shift without the cluch, and not hurt the trans. I don't recomend the following with ours, but if you get a hold of an econo-box show off for your friends.. The trans will slide right into gear if you pull out of gear, and match engine rpms to what they would be in the next gear. This way everything is spinning at the same speed and it will slide right in. Try this between 3 and 4 with a Civic, rolling at 35. Don't do it especially fast, just pull out and rest some pressure on the stick and watch it slide in. Like I said, don't do this to your mustang. I've done it in other cars I've driven, and its a pretty cool trick. __________________ 1997 Mustang GT "The Freak" - 13.80 @ 101.70, 2.07 60' 1995 Honda VFR750 - not much @ really fast (actual data pending.) 1964.5 Mustang 289 Rice Haters Club Member #13

09-13-2002, 04:39 PM	#20
stangman96 Ford Dealer Mechanic Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: San Antonio Teaxs Posts: 31	Learn to shift idiot!!!! Learn to shift idiot!!!! that was uncalled for how rude.......... you may not be able to hit second cuz of your gear ratio, what do you have, possibly 2.73's, if so, some 3.73's will hook you up, i had that combo and now i can get it up to 3rd and when the road is wet, sometimes even to 5th, but just wheel spin...... but it is hella fun spinning in the rain....... __________________ 96 GT 5 speed, bassani x pipe, mac catback, k&n air filter, motorsport wires, 3.73 motorsport gears (love em), 2000 PI heads, intake combo, speedo calibrator...

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