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OK, now I'm mad!
I was at the track today and watched the new 'WRX's run into the mid 13's - with just a cat-back and a boost controller! These new cars are just unbelievable...Makes me want to put a TURBO on my 'Stang!
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What track do you go to? I typically run at Cordova, hope to go soon actually (a couple months).
Those are some decent et's, I didn't know those critters would run that quick... I'm not too terribly fond of import cars though, for some reason:rolleyes: Later |
daymm we are a dying breed:(
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the right amount of boost can make any car fast.
Personally, I like being N/A and whoopin some arse, but i wouldn't mind getting some juice soon :) |
WRX's are nice. Turbos are nice. Its all good....can you lend me around $25K?
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Geeezz...just give me about 10g's and would have alot of fun!! even 5..would be good
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i dont mean to sound like a dick towards those LITTLE import guys but they dont impress me at all i think that if you put a turbo on anything it will be faster, so until they have them running that without adders i wont be impressed. yes i agree with you on wanting to put a turbo on your car, im leaning either towards that or a kenne bell roots type charger, if you know anyone that sells turbo kits for a 94-95gt post it THANKS
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The bottom line is the suburu is a nice car for the money,(around $23K) and it makes impressive power numbers for what it is, a small 4 banger. Its not just the engine though, that car has got great reviews for just about everything, mainly because its reasonably priced for what you get. If I could afford a new car, I would consider one. But I cant, im poor, so I will continue to modify my 93 stang.... |
i dont know about you but i would rather buy a yugo than drive a SUBARU, yeah the all wheel drive might be cool but give me a break, for 23,000 that hunk of import sh*! better run 11's if im gonna buy it, thats just my opinion though.
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As far as your early question about turbo kits for 94-95 mustangs. Check out www.turbomustangs.com for links to all the turbo manufactures for every year mustang. |
I know they have a turbo But they need it a Motor Under 2.6L needs A Power add To be Close to a 5.0L. What one needs to Look at is How Fast the car is in stock form and With Slight Mods as well and the price as well.
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To reinstate, a sporty all wheel drive car with a turbo engine, with proven japenese quality, for $23K is a nice ride, if thats what your looking for. I dont care for full time all wheel drive, so I wouldnt buy one, but that doesnt take away from the fact its a nice ride. Let us know when you hear the pop..... |
Hell, let's all go out and buy a Japanese car, everyone else is, that makes it okay, right? We should all support the Japanese govt. while were at it too, right?
Let's all start buying everything from Japanese, Chinese, Saudis, and forget about American production. Hell, America is in good shape economically, we should be helping out those helpless people over in the Middle East, Japan, and China. Give them your hard earned money, support their cause! Al Gore and Bill Clinton does! They are hard-working, up-standing Americans If Afghanistan gets involved with making cars, I'll be sure to go out and buy one of those too, especially if it comes with an intercooled turbo, wins rally races, and is cheap to boot! We'll call it a bin Laden Camel, that sounds kinda like Ford Mustang doesn't it? Think about it, no really... If you can't figure it out, refer to avatar at left. Have a nice day, and happy motoring! |
Wow, you really dont have a clue. Enough said...later
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I'm a complete idiot actually...
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Alot of the imports are made right here in the USA and supply alot of american jobs.....While alot of the so called domestics are made in other countries to keep the labor cost down.....So sometimes even when you think that you are buying american your not!!
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Sure it may be quick but,How are mods for that car?$$$
And remember.....in a few short years that car will date it's self(looking like say a ......pacer! No one ever will say "hey there goes a 02 WRX!" It will be "check out that wicked MUSTANG" Those cars do nothing for me I'd rather take the bus if I had to! What would my friend say?:cool: :rolleyes: |
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While its nice to have feelings of patriotism and loyalty, the facts remain the same. Jap cars are of a higher quality, and can be a better value for your "hard earned" dollar.
And a lot of them are made here. Ford owns 50% of Mazda(or something like that) so is it ok to drive a Mazda then? How about the Mazda pickup truck which is a rebadged Ford Ranger? If I drive a Mazda truck (which is really a Ford Ranger) should I feel bad about it? I dont think so...all you "loyalists" have to look at the big picture and past your insecurities of "buying american". You think Fords gonna cut you some slack because your an "american"? Lol..no, their gonna take every last dollar they can squeeze out of you through the crooks they call car dealers. Look at GM and the "GEO" thing. What exactly is a Geo? Its a japenese car that you can buy from a Chevrolet dealer so you can "remain loyal" in your own mind, while driving a Jap car and not even knowing it. How stupid do they think the american public is? Well, pretty stupid is right. |
Buying American - or not
Fact: The Suburu WRX runs around 14.0 bone stock and costs under $25,000. Not a bad deal.
The 'Buy American' sentiment is admirable but as stated on earlier posts, most 'American' cars are assembled partly in other countries (Mexico, Canada) and most Japanese cars are at least partly assembled in America so it all balances out. I own a Mustang (built in Dearborn, Michigan) but I also own a Mazda (built in Hiroshima, Japan, ironically) and I apologize for neither. Buying a car is a personal and financial decision. Ford is a majority owner of Mazda so I'm fine with that, but frankly, most American car companies are just huge corporations in business to make a profit, no more, no less. I'll buy American when it's feasible but not to fulfill some bumper-sticker concept of being loyal to my country. That's absurd. Make a good product at a reasonable price and I'll buy it, no matter the country of origin. It's called a Free Market economy and it works. Competition from the Japanese imports made Detroit sit up and take notice in the late '70's and early '80's (and cry for government intervention - which they partially received) when the Honda's and Toyota's kicked their butt in the open (automotible) market. The ultimate result; better American cars, all around. Better build quality, better value for the buyer (you and me) and even with all the crying about Japanese cars, American car manufacturers are doing fine, as usual, and in some cases, buying up the weaker Japanese car companies (Ford/Mazda) and even British Jaguar is now American-owned. The market will weed out the losers and reward the well-made cars coming from well-run car companies. What we buy, foreign or domestic, is our choice, based on value, quality and features offered. Saying that buying a foreign car is somehow bad for America is naive and inaccurate. Buy what you want and don't let a misguided sense of consumer-patriotism sway your otherwise practical, logical choices. That's using the free market to your advantage. I contribute plenty in taxes to my government, I don't need to give even more in profits to faceless, investor-owned corporations in order to 'prove' some sort of loyalty to America. No one does. |
A car is a car, if it's fast give it props. Honda, Ford, Chevy...who cares...if it's fast, it's fast.
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The WRX is a fast, very nice car. i would love to have one. I dont see the reasoning behind the whole ford vs. chevy thing and the import vs. domestic wars. Like tireburner said a fast car is a fast car and that is good. Plus the WRX is very quick, handles very well and is AWD. Plus it gets good gas mileage to boot. I so want one ALONG with my stang. If only i had more money...
All of you "american only, jap crap" people need to get your heads out of your a--es. Later, Nick |
I'm seriously considering the WRX as a car for my wife. I want her to have great acceleration and something that would drive well in the snow. The WRX meets those requirements. The 0-60 for those things is unbelievable. It makes me wonder if it would be possible to make a Mustang AWD. :)
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Thats the point I was trying to make, unfortunately, Im not as well spoken as Mr 5 0. What he said hits the nail on the head. "Ricers" are the idiots that ruin good cars with stickers, fart pipes, and wings. Dont let that sway you from Japenese car companies. |
I think you could make a point in either direction about buying domestic, or buying foreign.
While much of the labor on some of the domestics is done in Canada and Mexico, the real money is made in the corporate arena. The guys in the HQ, the R&D guys, and the engineers. When you buy an import, you send the vast majority of the big dollar out to Japan. When you buy domestic, you send the large portion of the cost of the car back to the US, regardless of where it's built. As far as the Japan vs USA in quality.... I don't know. There are a lot of problems with Japanese cars you never hear about. Everytime one of the big three screws up it's plastered all over the place. You don't hear when Honda or Toyota has a major recall. I've driven imports, and I've driven American. The import machine I had ('91 Ford Escort GT, everything on it was Mazda) was the biggest POS I've ever owned/worked on. It was also the only car until last week that I had ever purchased with under 100k. It had 64,000mi on it. I've driven my sisters Acura Integra around as well. Felt like my Escort. It required minimal maintenance, but it's only been on the road a bit. Her other Integra also required an alternator, water pump, and a couple other parts. The Mustang 5.0 has between a 4-5 star reliability record, which is as good as any import. The Corolla, until recently anyway, had average or below ratings for problems. I don't trust Consumer Reports either, though. The new WRX is pretty cool, if you like a hollow go-kart. It's again, a lot like my little Escort was. More power, but same basic feel to me anyway. The sticker price on the ones I saw was about $25,500. I got my Mustang GT for $21,500 with the Mach 460, leather interior, and including the destination charge. The times I saw posted originally for the WRX were in the high 14's, although maybe people have figured out how to drive them better now? It would definately be a fun car in the winter, but honestly, I'd rather have a couple year old 2.5RS cause it doesn't look butt ugly. LOL. I'd rather have an aging RWD Thunderbird, or Mustang than an aging FWD/AWD import. Those things are a real pain to crank wrenches on, :D |
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its light, all wheel drive and it is a turbo. what else did you expect? nice car. i would definetly buy one. its a poor man's Porsche:p
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I drove one of these, and i thought it was a decent car. It was fast, i will admit that. Dump the clutch at 5000 grand and it nearly blurs your vision (salesmen don't like it). I really didn't like the feel of the car however which keeps me loyal to stangs. It really did feel like i was driving an escort with a v8. It had real nice low end torque and alright hi end power. As for expensive parts, i would guess you could have one of those running high 12's for under $1000 on top of the $25500 you pay out the door. It's a great buy if you like the import (tiny interior, low feature) feel. By the way they handle and brake insanely well also , i couldn't belive the way The SOB cornered. Just my .02. No flame intended if someone gets offended.
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Those WRX's can flat turn...
I went to an autocross event that was held in a parking lot awhile back. There were a few WRX's out there right from the dealer to show off what they could do. They were in the top five for lap times! These cars went around the tight turns with the trailing wheel 4-5" in the air! Tire squeel was non-existant and when the car when down the straight... All that I could hear was BOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTT. Bad *** car. Too small for me though. I'll stick with the stang. Thank you drive through.
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Just for everyones info Ford owns/ owns stock in the following companies: Ford, Lincoln, Mercury, Mazda, Land Rover, Volvo, Jaguar, and Aston Martin.
GM cars and trucks are sold under the following brands: Chevrolet, Pontiac, Buick, Oldsmobile, Cadillac, GMC, Saturn, Geo, Hummer, Saab, Opel, Vauxhall and Holden. DaimlerChrysler: Chrysler, Dodge, Mercedes-Benz, Mitsubishi, Hyundai, Setra, Frieghtliner, Sterling, Western Star Trucks, Jeep, Smart, and Maybach. All common, mass produced, sold in the US automakers also have factories in the US. The only one I can think of off the top of my head that does not is Kia. So given the above info, what really is an import or domestic now a days??? I enjoy driving muscle imports just as much as I do muscle domestics for different reasons. If I want to go screaming down a twisty back road, give me a quick, agile sport compact. If I want to go fast in a straight line give me a domestic muscle car. (Of course if I want to go flying down a twisty, curvey road I'd want to be on a bike anyway:D ) I'm not saying that there are no domestic twisty curvey type cars but most of them are out of financial reach of most young adults. Everyone has their prefrences. I personally despise GM but I won't hold it against any GM owners. They make some damn nice rides I just would never own one. Same with Honda. I'm not trying to make anyone mad but this is how I look at it. There is not a defined import/domestic line anymore. Most use each others parts and are sold beside each other. Have a good one and enjoy driving! No matter what it is. (Except maybe a Yugo, not much enjoyment there. Whoever heard of a hi-po Yugo??) |
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Car and Driver reported a 14.1 quarter-mile et on the Subaru WRX in October, 2001. 0-60 time was a righteous 5.4 seconds. Front-wheel-drive vehicles are difficult to work on, granted. I hate 'em. Putting an alternator belt on my wife's Mazda 2.0 took over an hour! Parts can be expensive, too. A new muffler/tailpipe for that Mazda costs over $200. By comparison, a single muffler for my 5.0 costs about $50. On the other hand, the car (bought new for $19,000. in 1995) has been a model of efficiency and reliability. 125,000 miles and aside from the usual brakes, exhaust, tire, belts and battery replacement, I've only had to replace a starter, the Mass Air Sensor unit - and little else. Starts and runs flawlessly, gets great gas mileage and passes emissions easily. A great utilitarian machine, which is what I - and most people - expect when they buy these vehicles. 'Looks' are secondary - and totally subjective, as we all know. My Mustang (also bought new, in 1990) has, like most, been a five-star winner for reliability after 116,000 miles. Aside from normal lifespans of various parts (exhaust, brakes, clutch etc) requiring replacement I've had to replace almost nothing due to parts failure. The car is a joy to own in every respect, which is why I hang on to it after 12 years. I know the new Mustangs are vastly improved in most areas but the one I have is so good to me I simply cannot justify parting with it. I maintain that the Japanese cars are of excellent quality but so are some American cars and everyone can find both a horror story and a success story on reliability in both camps. I simply choose the car that fits my needs. I wouldn't buy a WRX because it's not the type of car I want, despite it's performance. Like you, I prefer the Mustang in every respect for a performance car. On the other hand, when I buy a car for my wife, I need a different type of vehicle and if a Subaru happened to fill the needs we have, I would buy it. I don't care where it's manufactured. I'll probably buy another (Ford-owned) Mazda, due to our good experience with the '95 626, but if an american-made vehicle came along that fit our needs and price range, I would consider it. No bias there, just practical use of our hard-earned car budget for what we need and what's the best buy, which is what I advised in my original post on this topic. |
You guys disappoint me!! I will refrain from writing a book to explain myself as I believe it would be unnecessary and pointless.
(too late) I am very well aware of the issues that have been discussed concerning our global economy and other relevant points made. Thank you! Continue doing what you guys do best... whatever that may be. Have a nice day and happy motoring!:D |
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The Buick 3.8 is an outstanding motor
Chevrolet's Vortec motors are powerful and efficient And of course, the 5.0L is my personal favorite... Why Ford decided on the modular V8 is beyond my comprehension... remember my saying that I am a complete idiot? I apologize that I am unable to make a convincing argument, or one that you are unable to relate to or understand for that matter. I am simply stating my opinion... Sometimes (most of the time actually) people get upset when I voice my opinion on various issues. Apparently I was able to get your attention (which elicited an emotional response, hence your reply to my post) or you would not have given me the time to respond to my "rant" I am not "mad" at you Mr 5.0, I respect your opinion actually; though, I must say that I disagree with the current scenario in the automobile industry as a result of a global economy (where large companies/corporations move over-seas because of cheap labor and less taxation). Obviously this scenario relates to other industries as well (duh). ...and I am starting to write the book I claimed that would be pointless and unnecessary! (oops!) Forgive me if you will... Wishful thinking on my part... "buying American" that is... That's all, nothing more! "you can wish in one hand, and poop in the other... and see which one fills up first" ya dig? On with your verbal abuse... I guess you won't be slinking away from this one, will you:D BTW, I'm not that much of a Yankee, more of a redneck hill-billy. Yippe-ki-yi-yah mo foker!:p (joking) You guys do remember WW2 happening? Getting bombed by Japanese, and several years later everyone's buying their product, even large corporations, irony... That is what disappoints me! That is my rant. Yak at you guys later! And sorry for writing a damn book! Y'all just misunderstood me... |
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In my opinion... Such reasoning is disgusting. I doubt your old enough to "Remember" World War 2. Maybe you didnt know or here how the Americans treated Japenesse Americans during WW2. How about the Atomic Bomb??? Not one, but two of them were dropped on the Japanesse. In that short video you might of scene in a high school class, or on the history channel, did you even think about those how many people ceased to exist during those brief moments???? As for Pearl Harbor, have you ever heard of the proof, or the theory behind how the government knew before hand that it was going to take place???? How the clues and hints were dropped by the Japenesse way before hand? I would like to know what relavance Pearl Harbor should have with our current relations with Japan. Do you have a Playstation, or a Nintendo?? How about a Sony TV, or stereo. Maybe Toshiba or Aiwa? Harboring such feelings does nothing to help bring the world closer together. If you prefer to look at it that way, then look at we Americans did to the Native Americans. Look at what we Americans did to one another (Civil War), and look at what we Americans did to One another again (Segergation, racism). Let he with out sin cast the first stone. |
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remember my saying that I am a complete idiot? You're forcing us to remember. I apologize that I am unable to make a convincing argument, or one that you are unable to relate to or understand for that matter. Apology accepted. No problem. I am simply stating my opinion... Sometimes (most of the time actually) people get upset when I voice my opinion on various issues. Ever consider that it may because it's based on false assumptions and mostly wrong? Apparently I was able to get your attention (which elicited an emotional response, hence your reply to my post) or you would not have given me the time to respond to my "rant" I hate to let misguided comments and opinions go unanswered. Emotion was not a factor in my replies, facts were. I am not "mad" at you Mr 5.0, I respect your opinion... Never claimed you were mad about anything and thanks for the compliment. I must say that I disagree with the current scenario in the automobile industry as a result of a global economy... (where large companies/corporations move over-seas because of cheap labor and less taxation). Obviously this scenario relates to other industries as well (duh). The bulk of the profits come back to America and the companies still pay taxes on them. UAW jobs are lost but with automation, not as many as you would think. Cars are not made by hand anymore. ...and I am starting to write the book I claimed that would be pointless and unnecessary! (oops!) Forgive me if you will... Yes you are and yes, I will. Wishful thinking on my part... "buying American" that is...That's all, nothing more! Fine. "you can wish in one hand, and poop in the other... and see which one fills up first" ya dig? I think I saw that 'saying' in a fortune cookie I had last week. On with your verbal abuse... I guess you won't be slinking away from this one, will you That's uncalled for. Disagreement and presenting a logical argument is not 'verbal abuse' my friend. I did not engage in name-calling much less character attacks, I simply offered reasons why I thought you were wrong in your assumptions and conclusions. If you wish to debate, you'll need a thicker skin. As for 'slinking away'; when I'm mistaken in my facts, I admit it and take responsibity for it, with some grace and humor, hopefully. I don't abandon a discussion just because someone else disagrees although I won't tolerate name-calling and hysteria pretending it's logic. BTW, I'm not that much of a Yankee, more of a redneck hill-billy. Yippe-ki-yi-yah mo foker!:p (joking) O.K. You guys do remember WW2 happening? Getting bombed by Japanese, and several years later everyone's buying their product, even large corporations, irony... That is what disappoints me! That is my rant. If that's your 'rant', it's absurd and really just xenophobia masquarading as patriotism. World War II ended 57 years ago. America was bombed once, we bombed Japan almost into oblivion, which was necessary to defeat a very determined people who had chosen to become our enemy and attack us. That's war. We defeated Japan, the Emperor renounced his 'divinity', the Allies wrote a new constitution for Japan (no military, free elections) and we've been at peace ever since. A testament to the intelligence of both sides, in my opinion. To drag up a six-decade-old long since settled war as a rationale for boycotting Japanese products is, well, just illogical. If you're really serious about that mindset, you had better get rid of your TV, computer, CD player, Nike's and a ton of other stuff that is 'Made in Japan'. Sorry, I cannot accept 'World War II', which we won, as a reason to 'buy American' beyond all reason. using that reasoning, we shouldn't trade with England, either. Remember the Revolutionary War? Your argument would also have to include Germany and all those BMW's and Mercedes and lesser cars we buy from them. Italy is also on the Axis list. There go a lot more products, including Ferrarri's, I guess. Where does it end and what is the point? None that makes much sense. Once a war is won things change as the 'enemy' government that caused the war is always gone; killed in battle, suicide (Hitler) or hung for war crimes (most of the German High Command). We move on from there. You should try it. 'Buying Chinese' is a better example of trading with the enemy and I do have reservations about that - but in a global economy it's very difficult to avoid not buying foreign-made goods - of any type. This is a fact of life. We like those cheap jeans and other products made overseas so they sell, by the millions. The Japanese cars are simply good value, nothing more - or less. Y'all just misunderstood me... I think not - but thanks for your contributions. We don't have to agree on everything to be friends and part of the Mustang 'fraternity'. |
i guess since i'm from the south i can't buy anything made in the north now,because of the civil war? i cant root for the red wing's, or ny yankee's? oh no my mustang was made in michigan:eek:, guess i have to buy a saturn, or a nissan -made in tn, hahaha:rolleyes: :D :D
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I remember "Made in Mexico" used to be common, but I seriously believe that out of the last 100 things I have purchased, at least 99% of them were made in China, if not 100% Whats goin on here? Does China have the market on manufacturing for just about every product sold in the USA these days? |
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Whats goin on here? Does China have the market on manufacturing for just about every product sold in the USA these days?
It does seem that way and it's a fact that American manufacturing, in general, has largely moved to foreign countries, especially China. The biggest cost of manufacturing is usually the labor - people. China offers hard-working people who work more than eight hours a day, don't get minimum wage, three weeks vacation a year, or holidays off, much less any medical benefits (it's a socialist state). No Social Security or Unemployment taxes to pay, either. A businessman's dream, which is why they go to China for cheap labor. Even with import taxes and the U.S. taxes the American companies pay, it's still a bargain for the employeer and the China economy benefits greatly. On the other side of that coin, manufacturers can offer Americans' goods that are a whole lot cheaper than before, as the labor savings are partially passed down to the consumer. You can buy a 13" TV for next to nothing, today. Made in China. Lots of the sneakers and hip clothes we buy are 'Made in China', keeping the price reasonable if it doesn't have a fancy-name label. It's a win-win, to a point, but China is a rabidly communist country with an aging, dictatorial , unelected 'leadership' that both fears and distrusts the United States. Chinese are pretty much slaves in their own country, despite the happy face the government attempts to put on it's oppression. Try saying a bad word against the government in China and you'll 'disappear'. China's leaders have territorial designs, too. Worst of all, the Chinese have nukes. They are not to be trusted, in my opinion, and all this feverish 'trading' we do with them makes me a bit nervous, as we may be financing them for a war some black day in the future. Hopefully not. Mexico is still a popular cheap-labor source but I've heard that the lack of a cultural work ethic made operating a factory on schedule a problem when dealing with folks who tended to wander in and out and come to work when they felt like it, if at all. Hence, China looked pretty good with obedient workers that didn't dare question anything asked of them and were grateful for the opportunity to make some money as there was no drug money to be had, as in Mexico, at least not by the average Chinese peasant. So, next time we buy that 'cheap' item that says 'Made in China', think about some poor Chinese peasant slaving away for pennies to make it, then, be glad you're not them - and enjoy it. |
Good points. I knew China was a bad place to live and that there was a lot of manufacturing there for the reasons you mentioned, but I am just suprised that it seems that everything is made in China. You used to see a mix of countires, but it seems chinas got the monoply on the "cheap" products anyway.
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Is there anything you don't know Jim? Do you read the newspapers and watch the news a lot? You seem so well informed on so many different things.
__________________ Mach 1: Theres a lot I don't know but thanks for the compliment. Yes, I'm an avid reader and 'news junkie' and I spend a lot of time on political websites. I've also studied politics and history for quite some time. I avoid most TV news as it's biased (liberal) but the news analysis shows are informative (Alan Keyes, Bill O'Reilly, Chris Matthews). I like to be informed about the world I live in and once you've educated yourself, you form opinions based on what you know. I am opinionated but I also try to see the other side of any given issue. The trick is to disagree without being disagreeable, something I don't always accomplish but then, some folks view any disagreement as an attack on their character, or something, and that makes reasoned debate difficult. I try. |
That makes sense, as you really seem to have a handle on politics and history, 2 of my weaker areas.
And most Americans are weak in History and Politics, so those are good areas to improve your knowledge. take care |
With regard to the Chinese having nuclear capabilities, what are your thoughts on Clinton/Gore allegedly selling nuclear secrets to those boys over in China...
I apologize for my ignorance BTW And, yes I am a xenophobe (you hit the proverbial nail right on the head Mr 5.0). My buddies give me hell from time to time for my negativity relating to world issues and foreign countries/people. I'm a sort of radical in some regards, and as you all have figured out by now, most of my ranting is unsubstantiated. I have fun with it sometimes, seeing how different people react to my thoughts... no harm intended. Oh... "open mouth, insert foot" I hope some of you feel better. It is within my capacity to listen and learn. I am for the most part uninformed on what REALLY is going on in our global community, as are most people inhabiting this planet. I still dislike foreign labeled vehicles, due mostly to my "patriotic" upbringing. Don't think or assume that I am pleased with every action that the U.S. is/was involved in. I personally am a sort of isolationist, which would in-turn go right back to Dr. 5.0's diagnosing my xenophobia. I get a kick out of your comments, I like them actually. BTW, yes I am a sinner; and, I have cast many stones in my 24 yrs. and have learned from the many mistakes I've made (and will continue to do so). I refer to myself as a complete idiot for the simple fact that just when you think you have something figured out, you begin to realize the complexities involved in just about everything; whether it be a political issue or a drag racing issue. I am working on getting my car ready to make some passes at the track (that is afterall where this thread originated before I opened my big mouth) and realized that my strictly bolt-on days are over. I had to get a starter for my alum. McLeod 164 tooth flywheel with a 3/8'' offset on the ring gear (early 289-302-351 w 3 spd manual flywheel style starter, not the run of the mill 302 starter) got it, and realized that the powermaster unit would not work with my headers (the batt. post is located on the side of the starter, not the front, and the no. 3 tube lays right on it... I can either shim the starter I have (hitachi, can you believe it?) or try to find a different mini-starter other than a powermaster. I'll get 'er fingered out soon. I just sent back a bellhousing to swap for the correct one. The unit I received was for a standard Jerico/toploader which has a shorter input shaft. My Jerico has the longer input shaft for a direct replacement as far as the bellhousing goes. There was a 3/4" difference in depth between the one I received from McLeod and the stocker (the stocker is deeper). I am also waiting on some modified hyd roller lifters that are built for high rpm use without pumping up and floating the valves... It's coming together believe it or not. Hard telling what I will come across next... If I get mad, I'll just throw my Sony 36" Wega out the window... Oh, wait... It takes three men and a boy to pick that damn thing up! No, I don't own a playstation or nintendo (I'm not into video games) I'll post some pics of the install (McLeod Soft Lok and Jerico DR4) at my MustangWorks homepage if it ever comes together:D Thanks for making me think twice everyone, appreciated! More boisterous opinionated illogical comments later... |
World affairs and Mustangs
Ultraflo:
You wrote: I apologize for my ignorance You're not ignorant; just misinformed, uninformed or hold opinions not not fully formed in some instances but I do appreciate your honesty and sense of humor. Your take on the reality of the complexities involved in many political issues is astute. and yes, we all learn as we go. You also wrote: With regard to the Chinese having nuclear capabilities, what are your thoughts on Clinton/Gore allegedly selling nuclear secrets to those boys over in China... Let me respond by stating that I believe the Clinton/Gore administration was one of the most corrupt presidential administrations in our nation's history and that they did much harm on many levels to this country. The sex scandals were only a minor part despite all the focus on that aspect of the Clinton years. Specifically, the possible selling of classified nuclear weapon secrets to China in exchange for campaign contributions by the Clinton White house has many dimensions. First, it's the almost inevitable result of electing a very corrupt man as President. Corrupted men like Clinton are capable of corrupt acts, so I wasn't surprised when these allegations surfaced. I fully believe that the Chinese certainly did obtain classified nuclear-weapons intelligence and specific technical information that helps them improve their nuclear capability. Obviously, this has serious ramifications for the United States. Unfortunately, what's done is done and we cannot turn back the clock, but should war ever break out between the U.S. and China (unlikely, in my opinion) we could be at some disadvantage. Hopefully, not. I believe that if it were ever proven that Clinton, Gore or anyone in the Clinton administration sold classified nuclear information to the Chinese government, they should be immediately prosecuted, no matter how much time has passed. Unfortunately, I don't believe the Bush administration has any intention or interest in pursuing this kind of investigation so the odds of Clinton or Gore ever being charged with treason is probably nil. I appreciate your isolationism but frankly it's pretty much a dead political issue in this day of instant communications, supersonic jets and nuclear missiles that can transverse the planet in minutes. I'm afraid the big pond doesn't protect us any more. I would caution you to avoid not only xenophobia, but flat-out racism when possible. I'm not fond of some of the people that inhabit this earth but I try to condemn them for what they do, not who they are or what they look like. Specifically, Arabs. A contentious people who seem to be intent on destroying the tiny nation of Israel, just because it's populated by Jews. Frustrating situation there that's essentially tribal but - that's another thread. I wish you well with your 'Stang. It's always a hassle when you begin to do serious mods and have to start improvising to make things fit - or work, but the originality and ultimate success of the project is it's own reward, along with good timeslips. I'm glad you've enjoyed my comments as I've enjoyed our dialogue. We'll do it again some time soon, I'm sure. |
You are a gentleman and a scholar Mr. 5.0 (and a very sharp individual as well).
It's a wonderful feeling to know that I am not the only one who has a certain "distaste," if you will, for the Clinton administration. Sexual affairs are the least of my concern... I get sick to my stomach when I hear how great the dynamic duo were, and how they've done so much for our country. That is all I will say regarding this matter, it's been real. Thank you |
heh Hey I'm ignorant and ignarance really is bliss! (Well for the most part.):D
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Nice car just not my style
Look,
Let's not get defensive. The Subaru is a nice ride and is very impressive for a 4 banger. However, I wouldn't buy one. I think we all like Mustangs for other reasons than they are fast. Hell we all know that the Camero and Firebirds are faster than Mustangs. I like the style and look of the mustang. Not to mention the way it sounds at idle. Mustangs are the heat, but give the Isuzu some props. |
So , uh.. anyone seen any nice cars today?:confused: lol
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My gift to the boys on the mustangworks message forum:
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