OK, NOW I've seen everything...
 

From the "Dogs are colorblind you idiot..." department:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,55010,00.html

only in america :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :eek:

That is total BS! I'll take the dog, I love german shepards. I actually had an ex-police shepard when I was a teen, great dog!!

Umm...Yeah
My dog is racist too!!!!!:rolleyes:

*Warning Josh is in a extremly agravated mode, and may not act like himself*

OMFG!!!!!!!! This is BS, total 100% BS!!!!!!!!!. The dog hates black people:rolleyes:

Ok, that's it, just my opinion but it seems to me that black people don't want a color blind socitey like the one that Dr. King talked about. They want to be better, THEY are some of the most racist people I've ever meet.

They think that because of something that was common practice 100 years ago, that I owe them something. What do you think would happen if we formed a NAAWP, the National Association for the Advancmet of White People or WET, White Entertainment Television?. My bet is that all hell would break loose. They want something for nothing, they want special privleges because they are black. Well, giving people privleges over other people because of their skin color is discriminatory.

Just a little tidbit: did you know that if you check that you're black when you sign up for the ACT, you automatically receive 2 extra points? That would mean I would have made a 29 instead of a 27 - and possibly more scholarship money.

But what do I know? I'm just some 'redneck' from Mississippi who walks around in over-all's, chewing tobbaco and crusin in my 4x4. Since I'm from MS I must be a memeber of the KKK :eek: :rolleyes:

WOW dude, I agree with most of your post but... you better edit some of it before morning...

:eek: Yeah for real man!!!!

I took the last line out, but I refuse to edit any more. Jim can edit if he'd like

What is stopping you, bro?? The last I checked, it was a free country. I'll be your first member.

We already have White Entertainment Television though.. its called Nick at night.

I know this sounds strange, but I knew a dog that would be extremely friendly to anyone who was not hispanic. For some reason, he would bark and growl at any hispanic person even if they were on the other side of the street. It made no sense to me, but I'm no expert either.


hell, I dunno.

WET TV?
 

Josh,
WET TV? I think you would get A LOT of subscriptions. Mostly people who are friends of Jenna's, if you know what I mean.

WHOA!!
Calm down there TireBurner!

(We're going to have to stop feeding him sugar and sodas after 9 PM...)

Some of my best friends are black. And while there may be SOME validity to your statements, they are WAY too generalized...

You've got to realize that your generalized statement:
is in many ways just as idiotic as the headline:
There are prejudiced people from all races and walks of life.
There are also some good friends to be found too...

Hammer, your right. I'd like to rephrase that to "Black people can be just as racist and anybody else."

I too have many good friends that are black.

While this may be true, I have to agree with what tireburner says... I feel the same way, and even some black friends feel the same way. If we were to have a "WET tv" Some blacks would explode, riots would start... it's BULLSHIT! :mad:

The best way I can describe my feelings on this subject is this:

If any of you ever end up watching "Undercover Brother", one of the funniest moments in the movie is when the Black male and female leads get into a fight with 2 white guys and a white chick.

The scene splits off as the 2 chicks start fighting as the 3 guys go at each others throats with 70s style kung-foo moves.

The fight goes along and the women start to cat fight as pieces of clothing are ripped from the girls' outfits.

The fight between the guys starts to slow down...

The girls' catfight moves into a shower that "accidentally" gets knocked on in the meelee.... The 3 guys have stopped fighting and are watching intently.

By the time the girls are thoroughly wet in the skin-tight remnants of their clothes, all 3 guys are eating popcorn and drinking beer as they watch the entertainment.... ;)

Funny, and it makes a point:
We're not as different as we sometimes make each other out to be....

Okay, this is really pretty simple for me. I think what Josh said was not only on the money, but almost too politically correct. There may be a place or too that became too generalized, but that is what is being discussed here. Whenever racial profiling is suggested, it's ALL of the blacks that are the "victims", when in reality, it's just a few who are trying to gain a free pass for everyone in their race. The numbers of blacks in jails and prisons may be disproportionate to their percentage of the population, but guess what, that's because they are more likely to commit a crime. Don't like it? Tough. It's a free country. if you don't like where you're at, or what you're doing, do something about it. Improve yourself, and make yourself a better person. No one is stopping someone just because of the color of their skin, unless they are white, and are trying to go to school or get a job some place that still has quotas to fill. I have a few black friends, even though the percentage of blacks is less than 2% in Ventura county, and they agree completely. We are told as white people that we are supposed to be color blind, and see everybody as being the same, yet we have the NAACP, The Hispanic Grammys, and National African American Recognition month (February). It is a tremendous load of BS, and I'm so sick of it, I just ignore it. ANYONE who makes ANY claim, or ANY decision, based solely on the color, or lack of color, of another persons skin, is a complete idiot, and needs to be shot. That includes EVERYBODY, in ALL respects.

So, who wants to go shoot that councilwoman?

:)

Take care,
-Chris

There already is a NAAWP. I forget where its based, but they have been featured on some news shows already. They are unfortunately not mainstream, but white supramacist and affliated with the KKK.

Don't ever feel like you have to edit your posts. I agree with what you have said, even if some others may not. I, too, have friends that are black, but that does not stop me from realizing the fallacies that are associated with many members of the race. The individuals that I have befriended also laugh about the ghetto bangers and whiney "gimme-gimme-gimme" NAACP types. Just because you choose to notice aspects of "african-americans" you dislike, doesn't make you a "racist".

The affirmative action crap is BS. If I ever found out that I was accepted to a university or hired into a position because I have tits, I would quit immediately. I don't want some dude who is more qualified than I being passed over just because he has different genetalia...that's friggen wrong. I've always liked the idea of a sexless and colorless college application. Yes, yes I'm well aware that there are underpriveleged areas of the USA..well thats what financial aid is for...there should be no freebies when it comes to the actual selection based on GPA, extracurriculars, contributions to the community, etc. However, you must remember that other minorities as well as chicks can also be recipents of affirmative action "BENEFITS" :rolleyes:

Expect to see more stupid articles such as the one posted. Lovely liberals have made this sort of thing commonplace, and the majority of the nation has become accustomed to such asanine WHINING! I'm sure there will be some whiners on this post, talking about equality, etc. Well, I'm all for equality between the races, but we're WAY far from that goal in today's world...in fact...I'm not sure how much closer we are today then we were in 1960 :( Racism was more public 40 years ago, but today's breed of hate is more dangerous in my opinion, because its brewing inside people, in their hearts and in their souls.

heeh
 

I agree, speak your mind... I've been doing alot of editing myself lately:) You had to see that last line though Belle...:D

Re: heeh
 

I missed it too, Rick... E-mail it to me!

Thanx !!!

Take care,
-Chris

"Tireburner". I have a unique perspective on this issue. My girlfriend is a beautiful intelligent black girl.

Unfortunately everytime white people do form a white people group. Its a hate group. BTW BET is owned by white people "imagine that".

Dogs see in black and white so I am sure you could teach a dog the difference between a black and white ball. To me these peoples claims are unlikely but not impossible.

I know for a fact that black people are treated differently in traffic stops "sometimes" if you want examples just ask.

Later,
:)

I know that my dog can tell the difference between a black and a white person. I remember the first time he ever saw a black person be barked uncontrollably. (which is unusual for him) The town I used to live in had no black residents so he didnt ever see a person of color until he was close to 2 years old.

Maybe if you looked at this police dogs record, you would find that the majority of the people he caught were black. Maybe then the dogs first instinct would be to go after the black person. I dont know.

Believing a dog is racist borders on lunacy. Saying a dog might have the ability to profile racially based on the dogs experiences, might have some merit. I think this councilwoman just used this incident (like so many other minorities do when someone of their race is attacked in any way, shape, or form) to further the advancement of her race.

I'm all for racial equality. But I wish whoever decides when the races are equal would hurry up and make a decision! :rolleyes: Or at least give me an approximate date on when they might be equal so's I can turn my tv back on and not have to listen to the rhetoric and propaganda that come spewing out of these peoples pieholes.

My hope is that someday in the evolution of our society the hatred shown towards blacks would trickle down to near nothing, but I dont think these black extremists are going to let that happen. :confused:

Andy

Racist dogs. (Warning:very, very long)
 

On the original subject:

My dad was a dog breeder and trainer (as a hobby) for many years and had winning dogs (he specialized in Boxers) in the Westminister Kennel Club show in N.Y. many times.

I grew up around dogs (we had our own kennel) and I can tell you that dogs are colorblind and cannot tell a person's skin color so the whole charge is absurd and should be laughed out of town, but don't bet on it. That would be using common sense and take some guts, and when politicians are involved and the 'race card' is pulled, common sense goes out the window - quickly. A miracle if the police dog survives this controversy.

Josh:

I checked your post and edited it for a few grammar and spelling errors to make it clearer but the content was permissible although somewhat inflammatory. However, you didn't attack anyone personally or make any wild claims, you simply expressed the frustration of many that see the negative results of reverse racism today and naturally resent it. So do I.

Incidentally, black people would tell you that they need black-only organizations like the NAACP, TV networks (BET), magazines (Ebony, Jet, etc) a 'Miss Black America' and so on because American society is dominated by whites, ignores them and blacks want their own groups and organizations that represent and cater to them. That's segregationist and unnecessary but this is the mantra I've heard when discussing the issue with black people. They cling to the 'victim' mentality at all costs in many cases.

There seem to be two camps of blacks in America today.

One I call the 'Jesse Jackson' camp; race hustlers using their race and white people's guilt and desire for fairness to screw society over and be above criticism and accountability.

These race hustlers encourage (and then feed on) black's resentment of whites to exploit them and then blame every problem in life on 'racism'. Too many blacks buy into this as an easy excuse for doing nothing to better themselves and then they blame racism for their personal failures.

This in a country that offers unlimited opportunity to 'people of color' as well as many extra added benefits along the way, mostly ignored by too many blacks.

The other camp would be those like Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas who grew up in near-poverty in Georgia, managed to graduate from Holy Cross University with high honors, graduated Yale Law School with honors, was an assistant Attorney General for Missouri, and a federal Appeals Judge before being nominated and appointed to the Supreme Court in 1991 at age 44.

Justice Thomas did this in racist America? No, he did this is a country that is mostly colorblind and prefers it that way but that blacks and their 'leaders' like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are attempting to make a separate country with special rules for blacks that give advantages whites don't get. It's reverse racism and it's destructive to both races.

Blacks have voluntarily segregated themselves on many college campus' and in other ways less noticable. The 'ghetto culture' is becoming the norm for way too many blacks and an alarming number of white kids who think being nasty, low-class, violent and without a shred of morality or decency is 'kewl, dude'. Sad.

Josh's anger and frustration is palpable and understandable. Unfortunately anger itself doesn't get us very far. I prefer to mock and laugh at a lot of the excesses of blacks in public forums, such as the councilwoman in PA wanting the police dog, Dolpho, put to sleep because she assumes he attacks black people due to their race when in fact, the dog cannot see color or have any understanding of racial differences in humans. It's stupid and needs to be called stupid. Loudly and often.

Most whites are not racist and object to being painted with that brush whenever a black person wants to excuse their own bad behavior or some personal failure.

Look at the wild success of a Michael Jordan or an Oprah Winfrey. Successful because white people - the majority - watched them and supported them and made them mega-millionaires in the process. That doesn't look like white racism to me.

White liberals in the media and government has fostered this victimization mindset among blacks for decades as it gets them elected and makes them feel oh-so-noble to 'point out' perceived racism in America, none of which they would ever stoop to, of course...they looooove all 'people of color' we're told.

Of course, these same politicians and media types live in expensive neighborhoods and never have any real contact with the people they claim to love so much but we're not supposed to notice that. Well, I do. I also point it out when debating this issue with liberals. So should anyone else who wants to make a point when some movie star goes on TV to yak about race or a politician proposes yet another law that gives one race an advantage over another due simply to skin color.

Race is a thorny issue and will never be totally resolved, especially on this or any other internet messageboard, but the U. S. has far better race relations than any other country on earth, despite the race hustlers and politicians feeding on and attempting to exploit racial differences.

Look at Africa and the deadly tribalism there that has torn that continent apart for generations. Even lily-white Ireland couldn't stop fighting each other for about 30 years. The Balkans, the middle east, wherever you look there are racial/tribal divisions and fighting. Americans did that 140 years ago. We called it a Civil War and we managed to kill 600,000 of each other, mostly in hand-to-hand fighting, too. Not pretty.

We got over it, eventually, matured, moved on as a nation. The fact that we did probably has a lot to do with our emergence as the most economically and militarily powerful nation on earth within the next 80 years and we remain so, today.

In America, we get along fairly well with each other even though we may look different and come from different 'cultures'. Almost half of the blacks in America are middle class today and we have a black Secretary of State and National Security Advisor as well as black congressmen, mayors and police chiefs, college professors, bankers, stock brokers and physicians. The doors of opportunity are open to those who will put aside the victim mentality and perceived race differences and simply get to work.

The opportunities are better for black people in America than any other place on earth and that fact needs to be trumpted when liberals try to call us 'racist' because we disagree with Jesse Jackson or don't wish to see our tax dollars wasted on welfare programs that keep black people poor and needy.

No, it's not a perfect country and there will always be some latent racism alive in people's hearts but most Americans want equality and freedom and we resent being told that we don't and that we're 'racists' when we point out the 56% incarcation rate for blacks (with 13% of the population) or the 70% black illegimate-birth rate (35% for whites so don't feel too smug, folks) that all feed into making life more difficult for black people. That's not racism, that's reality, something too many blacks and whites don't wish to deal with but we had better, and soon, if we ever expect to have better race relations in America. Unfortunately, the game today is to attack the motives of those stating unpleasant facts, thus deflecting attention from the unhappy truth and putting the person who dares to speak the truth - based on facts - as 'racist', thus effectively shutting down the conversation entirely while neatly avoiding the truth. This leads to bad consequences for a nation and we're well into this name-calling in lieu of dealing with reality that masks the facts. Personally, I'm sick of it, thus these lengthy rants.

Let's hope the dog lives, anyway.

Isn't Reverse Racism an oxymoron? I mean, any form of racism is racism. Because a black person uses racial protection to gain unfairly, that then becomes racism, rather than reverse racism. Yes? No? Nevermind.

I got to go to work.

Take care,
-Chris

Oxymorons
 

Chris:

For many years in America the only racism that was acknowledged was that of the majority white race against the minority black race, such as the 'Jim Crow', Poll Tax laws and other now-ancient relics of the distant past.

In recent years, when politicians started making laws that overtly favored black people and discriminated against whites strictly on a skin-color basis, that was naturally termed reverse racism.

It is an oxymoron but it's stiill a handy term for describing the anti-white bias some laws and rules promote, such as Affirmative Action (quotas).

Re: Racist dogs
 

I don't know about that Mr 5.0, I had a dog that did not like any black people. He would growl and bark at any one of my black friends that would come over. It was so bad, that I would have to kennel him when any black friend (male or female) would stop by. Having been around a kennel growing up, you've got more experience than me around dogs, but that's my first-hand experience. My current dog, Sonnie, could care less about skin color.

However, if the dog in question truly did not like black people I would have to believe that it would've become evident the first week on the job.

Doggie racism
 

89CobraLX:

Don't misunderstand what I stated regarding dogs and skin color and acting on that basis as to whom they'll attack or even growl at. Re-read it.

I stated that dogs are naturally colorblind and certainly do not 'know' one race from another, not that they won't bark at strangers or even someone who may have a slightly different scent than what they are used too. You could train your dog to not bark at black people if you wanted to take the time and effort to do so.

A police dog could also be trained to attack people of any specific color or race although that is probably rare to say the least and I doubt it's the case in the PA case.

That's more about ignorance than anything else.