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Eric4Nitrous 08-27-2002 03:44 PM

Ricer causes my dad to get a ticket
 
I can't believe it. Dad called me up last night and told me that he took his chevelle out cruising and as soon as he got into town..a town cop followed him everywhere he went. He said he pulled up to a light. Well he said he was minding his business when this fart can'd civic with a picnic wing pulls up beside him and starts revving. My dad's a real laid back kinda guy. He doesn't do much street racing. he just cruises and likes to have fun. Well he revs back and he told me that the ricer boy laughed at him and gave him the thumbs down and pointed to his car..like it was the **** or something. So dad said he locked it down in low and held the transbrake and when the light turned green he nailed it. well after he manually shifted into second he let off. The ricer NEVER got on it. So naturally the town cop saw him and gave him a ticket. Reckless driving and excessive noise :rolleyes: If i was a cop i'd be delighted to hear a 13:1 bbc with flows on it. But dad said this guy was a jerk. It sucks to have a car on the street that has any power. You can't do anything hardly. Theirs a cop around every street corner here. Sad thing is..the cops around here don't give tickets to the loud fart can'd ricers..but as soon as a healthy sounding big block makes a little racket they pull him over :confused: Sorry for the rant. But i just had to let everyone know that the ricers striked again :mad:

929PhoenixSquid 08-27-2002 03:49 PM

Improper takeoff is a very valid reason for getting a ticket.

That Ricer never held a gun to your Dad's head....forcing him to do something stupid. I agree that it sux, but it's completely his fault.

You can't let these cheased(i)cks in their crappy Rice get to you or allow you to do something you wouldn't normally do. Ignore them....are they really worth your gas cost of even racing them?

The Deuce 08-27-2002 03:56 PM

I disagree.

I've never heard of anyone dying from a good 60'. Sounds like he shut down below 60, and yeah it was an exhibition of speed, but that just lags.

It does kind of sound like what Hammer did the other day in reverse. But I doubt your dad goes looking for trouble all the time. Me thinks the cop was jealous.

StoplightWarrior 08-27-2002 04:19 PM

That sucks...but it was his fault.

Hammer 08-27-2002 05:01 PM

Yeah... That DOES sound familiar....

But your dad KNEW the cop was around...
I don't care who revs at me, if Johnny Law is around, its better to let the rice boy go than to pay a fine....

Eric4Nitrous 08-27-2002 05:33 PM

It wasn't my dad's fault at all..he said he looked around before he did anything to make sure that cop wasn't right behind him. The cop was hiding behind the convenient store where they always stay to try and catch speeders and what not. He just nailed it real quick and then let off.

MidNiteBlu 5.0 08-27-2002 05:36 PM

I think that is so much BS. i mean how are you gonna die from taking off too fast but still not speeding? Now if your spinning tires and fishtailing all over the place thats a different story.

Later,
Nick

mustangman65_79 08-27-2002 06:02 PM

I had a ricer do the same thing to me. I pulled up to a light, and he starts throwing revs at me. So I reved back and put it in low. When I lanched I never broke the speed limit because he didn't even hardly move, then the cop pulls up next to me and pointed in a motion to slow down. I got lucky, he could have gotten me for exhibition of speed, and who knows what else, but I think he wanted the ricer more. The whole time the ricer knew he was there, I felt stupid because I'm usally the one who knews these things. I'm usally the one who laughs when a ricer blows by my at 100 mph or more when I'm doing the speed limit and gets caught.

induction 08-27-2002 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MidNiteBlu 5.0
I think that is so much BS. i mean how are you gonna die from taking off too fast but still not speeding? Now if your spinning tires and fishtailing all over the place thats a different story.

Later,
Nick

Sorry Nick but..... you are not the only one on the streets, 'if' you 'launch' your car into something or someone crossing the street , then it's very easy to kill someone without speeding. ... So much for BS.

84LX89GT 08-27-2002 06:31 PM

You said the cop was behind a convenience store?
Did the cop actually witness him doing this?

That sucks, but sh/t happens when cops have a quota.

Eric4Nitrous 08-27-2002 06:58 PM

Yes the cop was hiding behind the convenient store..and i guess when dad cracked it he came flying out and told him to pull over.

Eric4Nitrous 08-27-2002 07:03 PM

Forgot to mention that dad now has the car for sale. Here's a pic of it. It now has a tunnel ram with two 600 holleys.

http://ad.cache.collectorcartraderon...2/31590402.htm Pictures don't do this car justice!!

jj_jonathon 08-27-2002 07:07 PM

thats drag racing (isnt it?)....and if you get caught dragging on the roads in florida they take your car and you pay the towing and storing charge while you can't get it out...kinda neat huh? ive reved at cops before...teehee...you just do it in neutral...my car has stock pipes, so im not breaking a noise violation :)...also, its fun when you see a cop while youre at a light to go easy off the line so you dont squeal, then hit on it up to 45...hehe...depends on what county im in to do it though, we have laid back cops in one of the counties my "hometown" is split into...i think they dont act so mean cuz they get to drive camaros...hehe...

bald guy 90gt 08-27-2002 07:09 PM

pulled over
 
that sucks big donkey balls,to bad he didn't have a big truck to run over that piece of chit ricer:D :D :D

The Deuce 08-27-2002 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eric4Nitrous
Forgot to mention that dad now has the car for sale. Here's a pic of it. It now has a tunnel ram with two 600 holleys.

http://ad.cache.collectorcartraderon...2/31590402.htm Pictures don't do this car justice!!

You're right. Especially since the link is broken.

mustangII460 08-27-2002 07:31 PM

Being a Policeman I can't agree with the reckless thingy. I only award that when speeding near foot traffic. But I have seen tickets for reckless based on speed alone, kinda chicken poopy if ya ask me.


I do let many cool cars by with alot of different violations. It mostly depends on what someone says when I walk up. "What the heck did I do officer?" sign here.

Remember: If you do it in front of me, I have to put you on the shoulder. If we/I don't, the citizens want back there tax money.

Quota, I wrote 5 tickets last MONTH, hehehehe.

jj_jonathon 08-27-2002 07:39 PM

Quote:

Being a Policeman I can't agree with the reckless thingy. I only award that when speeding near foot traffic. But I have seen tickets for reckless based on speed alone, kinda chicken poopy if ya ask me.


I do let many cool cars by with alot of different violations. It mostly depends on what someone says when I walk up. "What the heck did I do officer?" sign here.

Remember: If you do it in front of me, I have to put you on the shoulder. If we/I don't, the citizens want back there tax money.

Quota, I wrote 5 tickets last MONTH, hehehehe.


cool cop :)....theres a few around here like that

929PhoenixSquid 08-28-2002 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mustangII460
Being a Policeman I can't agree with the reckless thingy. I only award that when speeding near foot traffic. But I have seen tickets for reckless based on speed alone, kinda chicken poopy if ya ask me.


I do let many cool cars by with alot of different violations. It mostly depends on what someone says when I walk up. "What the heck did I do officer?" sign here.

Remember: If you do it in front of me, I have to put you on the shoulder. If we/I don't, the citizens want back there tax money.

Quota, I wrote 5 tickets last MONTH, hehehehe.

Would you mind moving to NJ and patrolling near me? :D

1969Mach1 08-28-2002 10:13 AM

That sucks, stupid ricers. I usually get mad respect from the ricers. They love it when I show up and park my car with theirs. I usually park it by itself (so I'm not assosiated with them :D) but they still come and park there car beside me. I actually had some guy drive by me in his Honda slow down and look turn around a few minutes up the road come back and was like common (I was pulled over) and I told him to hold on, but the cop was right behind me and the cop busted my chops for doing stupid **** earlier. I ended up meeting up with the guy, he said it was a 13 second car, it was a Civic hatchback, pretty much nothing but frame and two Ferrari seats in the car. He took everything out of it, he had the 200hp engine and a 100hp shot of NAWWWSSS. The guy admited to being stoned when we first started talking to him and he kept talking and talking. lol I'm pretty sure I won't race anyone who is stonned at the time. All kinds of stupid people out there.

inferno 08-28-2002 03:56 PM

http://forums.mustangworks.com/showt...threadid=27323

There didnīt seem to bad a response to that thread, but all of a sudden itīs wrong when it is done in reverse. Everyone here are adults(even if they act like children sometimes) and your dad should take responsibility for his actions. He knew a cop was around and still took the risk and paid for it. Whether he saw the cop or not, he knew he was in the area and shouldnīt have been provoked by a car that probably wasnīt competition anyways.

The Deuce 08-28-2002 04:17 PM

From what I uderstand of the two situations, the kids Hammer messed with were speeding through the trap, and would likely have been anyway. Eric's dad shut down on the 1-2 and it did not sound like he got busted because he was going too fast, just because the cop had it in for him from the word go.

Both drivers were at fault, but you know what its like when a cop is singling you out for a ticket all night. That's what I don't think was right about this situation.

MidNiteBlu 5.0 08-28-2002 05:18 PM

I agree with you about pedestrians and such induction but thats why i said you should get a ticket if your spinning tires uncontrollably (sp) or like fishtailing. But from what I understand Erics dad just took off fast in a controlled manner and probably made alot of noise :D I wouldnt consider that dangerous. Especially if his dad has the judgement to do something like that he probably would have looked first.

Later,
Nick

inferno 08-28-2002 05:52 PM

Well seeing that you two that responded since I posted are from So Cal too, you know that cops can give you a ticket for accelerating rapidly whether you pass the speed limit or not. It doesn't matter that he didn't pass the speed limit, but the fact that he did try to engage in a race, the cop knew it, and he knew it. No need to cry because you did something wrong and got caught for it. It's like a purse snatcher getting mad because he stole a purse in front of a cop and his buddy snatched a purse where there were no cops around.

Mustangbelle306 08-28-2002 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eric4Nitrous
It wasn't my dad's fault at all..he said he looked around before he did anything to make sure that cop wasn't right behind him. The cop was hiding behind the convenient store where they always stay to try and catch speeders and what not. He just nailed it real quick and then let off.
:confused: How is it NOT your dad's fault if he's the one that spun tires? Granted the rice gave him a good reason to do it :D, but I'm sure your pops is a smart cooky...he knows what's legal, and what isn't, and no one FORCED him to do anything :) I never waste a gallon of gas or a SPECK of rubber on ricers...what's the point? How exactly do you prove reason to someone who thinks a stock civic is FAST??? LOL ;)

Mustangbelle306 08-28-2002 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by inferno
your dad should take responsibility for his actions. He knew a cop was around and still took the risk and paid for it. Whether he saw the cop or not, he knew he was in the area and shouldnīt have been provoked by a car that probably wasnīt competition anyways.
I agree...blaming someone else for "instigating" your actions is exactly what many Mustangworks members have attributed our crappy "I'm a victim" society to...and justly so. Even if you get a street racing ticket for a race you DIDN'T provoke, you were still willingly participating...

Sometimes when I read the ricer threads on this board, I dunno who's more wrong: ricers, or the overzealous ricerphobes :D

Eric4Nitrous 08-28-2002 06:12 PM

thing is he didn't spin tires..ET Streets..hehe All he did was nail it real quick then let off.

tireburner163 08-29-2002 10:42 PM

you dad's fault.....he knew there were cops around....he took the risk and got busted.....suck it up.

Mustangbelle306 08-29-2002 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eric4Nitrous
thing is he didn't spin tires..ET Streets..hehe All he did was nail it real quick then let off.
Yeah but that's also a risk you willingly take when driving a sports car...you ARE going to get more police attention than if you were driving a Toyota Camry. Unfair, but that's life...

Eric4Nitrous 08-29-2002 11:58 PM

if i send you a free hat will you be nice to me again? lol :D :D

induction 08-30-2002 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MidNiteBlu 5.0
I agree with you about pedestrians and such induction but thats why i said you should get a ticket if your spinning tires uncontrollably (sp) or like fishtailing. But from what I understand Erics dad just took off fast in a controlled manner and probably made alot of noise :D I wouldnt consider that dangerous. Especially if his dad has the judgement to do something like that he probably would have looked first.

Later,
Nick

1) What you may think is a "controlled manner " may not be the same as a professional driver ie. the officer that gave the citation.
2) Ok but maby you wouldn't consider that dangerous but the law is what it is , weather we like it or not (for now at least) The officer made what may have been a judgement call but that is for him to do after all they do it all day long .
3) Dads judgement ; As you say, "If he had the judgement to do something like that he probably would have looked first" Well I guess not since we are here now with this issue at hand , Thus we return to the Issue of personal judgement . It was a bad move and someone got caught doing it ! S..t happens , and someones gotta take a bite, Via the dual autographed little yellow glove box liner from your local town, parish, city,state,county or goverment aponted official.

Hey I'm no kill-joy ,I like to drive fast & have ( I Lived in Germany for some time ) fun but when I get caught , well I just have to suck it up and try t be smarter about it next time.

cyberstang5.0 08-30-2002 07:22 AM

It should be illegal, punishable by death, to own a ricer :D

Mustangbelle306 08-30-2002 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eric4Nitrous
if i send you a free hat will you be nice to me again? lol :D :D
Hay you've seen me in action, this is nowhere close to MEAN :D Just playing the devil's advocate ;)


...But, uhm, I wouldn't turn down a free hat :cool:

jj_jonathon 08-30-2002 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mustangbelle306
Yeah but that's also a risk you willingly take when driving a sports car...you ARE going to get more police attention than if you were driving a Toyota Camry. Unfair, but that's life...
what about a camry with a bookshelf on the back? :D

induction 08-30-2002 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jj_jonathon
what about a camry with a bookshelf on the back? :D
That should get ya 90 days 'under' the Toyota factory with no toilet!!

todd95GT 09-04-2002 01:23 PM

I will say this, of all the anti-cop (in essence, that's what this is) topics posted here that I have read, this one has had the most mature, reasonable responses I have seen. Finally. Yes, I am a police officer. Reckless? In Florida, there has to be an outright disregard for public safety and property. So no, that is not reckless driving here in this state. As far as the cop "having it in for him"...not likely. I love my 'stang, I love to drive it like it was meant and built to be driven, and I love a good heads-up race, but the law is the law and when I'm donning the uniform, there is no bias. Quotas are unconstitutional. They do not exist. An officer might have his own personal quota, but that's a personal drive. As the other LEO said in his post, attitude does play a big part in certain ticket or non-ticket situations. Sometimes there are no ifs, ands, or buts about it - you did something moronic enough that the only reason I want an excuse is to give me a laugh. Not having any cops in sight doesn't take the responsibility off of the individual. The laws don't end with "...when an officer of the law is present". I've received a couple of tickets in my day too. I got caught for violating the law and deserved what I got. Yes, it sucked. Did I learn from them, you bet.
It's hard to explain, but the "cops had it in for me and have a quota and hate this car and this person and have a bad-***** attitude" gets old. Put yourself in those boots. That goes for any job. I could never tell an IT professional that his job was easy until I've done it and have enough experience to speak from his shoes.
Just be careful out there. Let your 'stangs breathe, but be careful where you choose to do it. As far as the 60' never killed anyone mentality, I've seen people that wished they were dead after severe crashes from less distance. It's like I always say, it's not me I worry about, it's every other driver. Cruising at 40 mph, not very fast, but still 60 feet per second, imagine what you and your car that you slaved so hard over would look like when that 16 yr old new driver or the 85 yr old blind driver pull out right in front of you.
Sorry if I sound like I'm preaching. Just be careful. exercise caution and good judgement and we'll all be fine. And for the record, I've done the stoplight tango with a couple of Mustangs in my cruiser. I work in UPR/Unlimited territory.

929PhoenixSquid 09-04-2002 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jj_jonathon
what about a camry with a bookshelf on the back? :D
No, that's the risk of being "TACHY"! :D

silver_pilate 09-04-2002 04:57 PM

Quote:

1) What you may think is a "controlled manner " may not be the same as a professional driver ie. the officer that gave the citation.

*cough*....*cough*....my @$$...*cough.*

Perhaps the po-po's (highway patrols), but city cops as professional drivers?? Hell no. Don't take me wrong, I have the utmost respect for most law officers. However, a couple of classes in defensive/offensive driving don't make you a professional. Maybe I'm wrong about how much training they get, but I seen some dangerous and stupid driving from a good number of officers.

--nathan

induction 09-04-2002 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by silver_pilate
*cough*....*cough*....my @$$...*cough.*

Perhaps the po-po's (highway patrols), but city cops as professional drivers?? Hell no. Don't take me wrong, I have the utmost respect for most law officers. However, a couple of classes in defensive/offensive driving don't make you a professional. Maybe I'm wrong about how much training they get, but I seen some dangerous and stupid driving from a good number of officers.

--nathan

Ok , well just what is a professional and, do you know what it takes to become one? Not just your opinion of what one is / should be.
It just so happens that I am a professional driver( Yes I do have the paperwork to back it up) and have taken several classes to become one . I have a class "B" CDL with several endorsements ie. Passenger, air brake, tanks,Doubles, Ambulance, V.T.T and HAZMAT/waste, I have also taken the Smith system profesional drivers course . Just ask any officer how much drivers training they had to go through before they got handed a set of keys.
BTW I hope that cough of yours gets better soon.:D

RED92LX50 09-04-2002 10:08 PM

I don't care what anybody else thinks, but if a cop can give you a ticket for "accellerating quickly" when you didn't cause an accident, or break traction,or exceed the speed limit, or cross any lines, etc. - THAT IS BS!

Let's say the speed limit is 55MPH and you are at a stop light, the light turns green, how long should it take you to reach 55MPH without breaking that "rapid accelleration" law??? 10 seconds, 9 seconds, um, what if you have a quiet exhaust - maybe 8 seconds, can I hear 7 seconds...give me a break!

silver_pilate 09-05-2002 04:09 PM

Ohhhh...sorry. Didn't mean to step on the toes of any professional drivers out there. :rolleyes:

I'm not trying to define what is or isn't a professional driver. I'm just saying that, reguardless of how much training they've had and despite them having a little piece of paper that proclaims them as professionals, a good number of city cops that I've known can't drive worth jack and are as dangerous as some sixteen-year-old drivers with something to prove. All that, except they can get away with it.

And btw, there are multiple definitions of professionals. Being a cop doesn't qualify in my opinion as being a professional driver.

--nathan

silver_pilate 09-05-2002 04:12 PM

Oh....and I'm taking some cough syrup with codeine for my cough. :D Mmm Mmmmm....Good stuff. ;)

--nathan

induction 09-05-2002 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by silver_pilate
Ohhhh...sorry. Didn't mean to step on the toes of any professional drivers out there. :rolleyes:

And btw, there are multiple definitions of professionals. Being a cop doesn't qualify in my opinion as being a professional driver.

--nathan

:rolleyes: Don't worry you didn't step on my toes :rolleyes:

I just wanted to know what you thought a professional
Driver was in your opinion or whatever.
I do agree , I have seen people that dont drive well and should not have a license but oh well I can't do much about that so I just try and avoid them too.


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