Ricers on Bikes, ever seen this?

PKRWUD · 10-17-2001, 03:21 AM

1BAD89-

Please forgive me. I didn't realize that you knew more than some the Federal Department of Transportation, several state DOT's, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, Bell helmets, several universities and a top trauma specialist. What was I thinking? You must be right. After all, a high school report certainly outweighs any of them!

Please. I have never suggested that you should never wear a helmet. In fact, I pointed to two documented studies that prove they are very beneficial if you're involved in an accident while driving under 13 mph! I'll let you in on a little secret: The reason the fatality rate is 3% higher for helmeted riders is because of all of the teen crotch rocket fatalities. They seem to think they are Superman with a helmet on and they drive wrecklessly. And your claim that most Harley accidents are fatal is beyond laughable. I didn't do a high school report, but I did spend several months researching facts when a movement was underway to repeal the California helmet law. I also spent 4 years working at the largest hospital in Ventura County; 2 years in nursing and 2 years in X-Ray. The vast majority of the Harley accidents were arm and leg injuries, usually caused by laying the bike down to avoid a driver making errant left turn, or because they were trying to take a corner too fast. The majority of ricer accident victims were fatalities. The only reason we saw them was because the ER doctor on duty had to pronounce them. Part of the reason this is true is because most Harley riders are enjoying the ride too much to try and race to get where they're going. They are also, on average, older and wiser, and have more years of riding experience. Ricer riders, on the other hand, tend to be younger, less experienced riders who are more apt to ride carelessly, driving like they were on a closed circuit track. their goal seems to be to tach out the bike every chance they get. If I was going to ride a bike at 140 mph, I would wear a helmet too. It wouldn't do a thing for me in an accident (except create an additional 560 pounds of weight on impact, according to the law of inertia. Unless of course you know more than the law of inertia, too!), but it would keep the bugs out. I imagine hitting a fly that fast would probably pierce my cheek. You can drop the hillbilly crap too. I'm a well educated and travelled individual who speaks from documented facts and personal experience. I won't even start on the whole Okie thing. You know how to type, so you are obviously above that standard.

In any case, whether you go by your high school report or federal and state reports doesn't matter. You are set in your ways, and I in mine. I don't tell anyone not to wear a helmet, but I will dispell the myth that a rider is always safer with one on. I wouldn't force my insecurities on someone else if it might take their life.

~C

P.S. You never said, how often do you wear a helmet while driving your Mustang or your Camaro (or is the DOT and NHTSA wrong about those facts too?)? Seeing as your S-10 is so heavily modified, I'm sure you always wear a helmet while driving it, so I won't even insult you by asking.

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10-17-2001, 03:21 AM	#11
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	1BAD89- Please forgive me. I didn't realize that you knew more than some the Federal Department of Transportation, several state DOT's, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, Bell helmets, several universities and a top trauma specialist. What was I thinking? You must be right. After all, a high school report certainly outweighs any of them! Please. I have never suggested that you should never wear a helmet. In fact, I pointed to two documented studies that prove they are very beneficial if you're involved in an accident while driving under 13 mph! I'll let you in on a little secret: The reason the fatality rate is 3% higher for helmeted riders is because of all of the teen crotch rocket fatalities. They seem to think they are Superman with a helmet on and they drive wrecklessly. And your claim that most Harley accidents are fatal is beyond laughable. I didn't do a high school report, but I did spend several months researching facts when a movement was underway to repeal the California helmet law. I also spent 4 years working at the largest hospital in Ventura County; 2 years in nursing and 2 years in X-Ray. The vast majority of the Harley accidents were arm and leg injuries, usually caused by laying the bike down to avoid a driver making errant left turn, or because they were trying to take a corner too fast. The majority of ricer accident victims were fatalities. The only reason we saw them was because the ER doctor on duty had to pronounce them. Part of the reason this is true is because most Harley riders are enjoying the ride too much to try and race to get where they're going. They are also, on average, older and wiser, and have more years of riding experience. Ricer riders, on the other hand, tend to be younger, less experienced riders who are more apt to ride carelessly, driving like they were on a closed circuit track. their goal seems to be to tach out the bike every chance they get. If I was going to ride a bike at 140 mph, I would wear a helmet too. It wouldn't do a thing for me in an accident (except create an additional 560 pounds of weight on impact, according to the law of inertia. Unless of course you know more than the law of inertia, too!), but it would keep the bugs out. I imagine hitting a fly that fast would probably pierce my cheek. You can drop the hillbilly crap too. I'm a well educated and travelled individual who speaks from documented facts and personal experience. I won't even start on the whole Okie thing. You know how to type, so you are obviously above that standard. In any case, whether you go by your high school report or federal and state reports doesn't matter. You are set in your ways, and I in mine. I don't tell anyone not to wear a helmet, but I will dispell the myth that a rider is always safer with one on. I wouldn't force my insecurities on someone else if it might take their life. ~C P.S. You never said, how often do you wear a helmet while driving your Mustang or your Camaro (or is the DOT and NHTSA wrong about those facts too?)? Seeing as your S-10 is so heavily modified, I'm sure you always wear a helmet while driving it, so I won't even insult you by asking. ------------------ Retired Moderator MustangNet My site: Peckerwoods Pit Stop My teams site: Jim Porter Racing RACECAR spelled backwards is RACECAR HEY !!! Are you ASE Certified ??? If you are, ask me about iATN.