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Mr 5 0 · 04-09-2002, 09:41 AM

Mustangbelle:

The piece is fine, nicely written. I would give it an 'A'.
My problem is with the premise.

I don't believe much of anything the EPA says, especially when it comes to 'global warming', a scientific phantom that the enviro-nuts use to ban anything they don't like, especially the automobile.

Factual observations:

Sources for the 'scientific studies' that show catalytic converters can cause lung cancer? I'm sure they exist, you just need to name them for credibility.

I believe that catalytic converters were required on all cars manufactured in the U.S. starting in 1975, not the mid-80's.

Personal observations:

Yes, the catalytic converter may have flaws and problems, but the people knocking it are NOT seeking to eliminate the cat, that's just a trojan horse. They want to eliminate cars that run on gasoline which they see as killing the planet and people. I strongly disagree.

These folks (like the EPA bureaucrats) want us to drive little electric cars that 'don't pollute'. They also don't go very far, very fast, either, but to the EPA loonies, that is your car of the future, so get used to it.

In my considered opinion, screw them.

U.S.-manufactured vehicles pollute only a tiny amount but as the statements you quoted in your essay showed, the enviromental loonies can find danger and death everywhere when it comes to automobiles - which they hate with a passion. What I think they dislike so much isn't the so-called 'pollution' (that's a front) but the freedom for the individual the personal gasoline-powered automobile offers. Try hopping in your electric car-of- the-future for a nice cruise on Friday night. Somehow, it won't be the same (you can't go far or fast) and that's how the enviro-whackos want it. No fast cars, no racing, no freedom. All for our own good and to 'save the planet' of course. Hmmmm.

So Belle, although you wrote a good essay I have to part company with the premise that finds every other heath problem stemming from catalytic converters, because it's basically unproven and in my opinion is just another way to say 'Cars Pollute...we're all gonna die' and call for banning the gasoline engine. If you doubt it, read some EPA and other enviro-whacko lliterature (I have) and you see that in their view, the gasoline engine can never be made 'safe' enough. Electric cars are the 'only' solution. If possible, bicycles would be even better.

As for sending it to MM&FF, I have a feeling they would give you the same response but hey, why not? See what happens.

04-09-2002, 09:41 AM	#5
Mr 5 0 Conservative Individualist Join Date: May 1997 Location: Wherever I need to be Posts: 7,487	Catalytic converter myths Mustangbelle: The piece is fine, nicely written. I would give it an 'A'. My problem is with the premise. I don't believe much of anything the EPA says, especially when it comes to 'global warming', a scientific phantom that the enviro-nuts use to ban anything they don't like, especially the automobile. Factual observations: Sources for the 'scientific studies' that show catalytic converters can cause lung cancer? I'm sure they exist, you just need to name them for credibility. I believe that catalytic converters were required on all cars manufactured in the U.S. starting in 1975, not the mid-80's. Personal observations: Yes, the catalytic converter may have flaws and problems, but the people knocking it are NOT seeking to eliminate the cat, that's just a trojan horse. They want to eliminate cars that run on gasoline which they see as killing the planet and people. I strongly disagree. These folks (like the EPA bureaucrats) want us to drive little electric cars that 'don't pollute'. They also don't go very far, very fast, either, but to the EPA loonies, that is your car of the future, so get used to it. In my considered opinion, screw them. U.S.-manufactured vehicles pollute only a tiny amount but as the statements you quoted in your essay showed, the enviromental loonies can find danger and death everywhere when it comes to automobiles - which they hate with a passion. What I think they dislike so much isn't the so-called 'pollution' (that's a front) but the freedom for the individual the personal gasoline-powered automobile offers. Try hopping in your electric car-of- the-future for a nice cruise on Friday night. Somehow, it won't be the same (you can't go far or fast) and that's how the enviro-whackos want it. No fast cars, no racing, no freedom. All for our own good and to 'save the planet' of course. Hmmmm. So Belle, although you wrote a good essay I have to part company with the premise that finds every other heath problem stemming from catalytic converters, because it's basically unproven and in my opinion is just another way to say 'Cars Pollute...we're all gonna die' and call for banning the gasoline engine. If you doubt it, read some EPA and other enviro-whacko lliterature (I have) and you see that in their view, the gasoline engine can never be made 'safe' enough. Electric cars are the 'only' solution. If possible, bicycles would be even better. As for sending it to MM&FF, I have a feeling they would give you the same response but hey, why not? See what happens.