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silver_pilate · 11-18-2002, 08:39 PM

Well, I don't know much about the Beretta. I've never fired one, but I have handled them, and they seem to have good quality. I like the automatic decocker/safety. Can't be too bad if the U.S. military decided to replace the tried and true 1911 with the 92's as standard issue side arm. I've also heard great things about the .40 S&W ammo. Seem's to be the magic combination.

Personally, the only pistol I own as of yet is a Para Ordinance P12.45. I don't believe Para makes this model anymore due to the popularity and capability of the P10.45 to make up the market share in this area. The P12 is a great little single action sub-compact with a 3.5" barrel. It fires .45 ACP and has a twelve round magazine capacity +1 in the chamber. It's small enough for concealed carry, and despite the stagger-stack magazine, it fits your hand nicely. Pretty accurate at medium and short range. Good self defence and carry pistol. Of course, if you really need twelve rounds of .45 ammo to take down an assailant, you've got bigger problems to deal with. The model I have is an alloy frame and blued steel body.

I'd love a Kimber Ultra CDP II, but there's no way I could afford the $1100 to $1200 to pull one down.

A word of caution.....45 ACP is a great self defense round with a ton of stopping power, however it isn't cheap to shoot for target practice. The 9mm Beretta would be a good buy if you plan on shooting a lot of target loads. 9mm's can be picked up pretty cheap in bulk, and the bottom line is, if you shoot the bad guy, he's not going to care if it's a .45 or a 9mm or a .22. All he knows is that he got a cap busted off in his...well, you know

.

For comparison...a typical box of 50 rounds runs about:

9mm = $6.50.......(a case of 500 runs around $65.00)
40S&W = $8.00.......(a case of 500 runs around $85.00)
45ACP = $14.00

--nathan

11-18-2002, 08:39 PM	#2
silver_pilate DURKA DURKA!! Join Date: Sep 1997 Location: Lubbock, TX...(TX panhandle) Posts: 1,418	Well, I don't know much about the Beretta. I've never fired one, but I have handled them, and they seem to have good quality. I like the automatic decocker/safety. Can't be too bad if the U.S. military decided to replace the tried and true 1911 with the 92's as standard issue side arm. I've also heard great things about the .40 S&W ammo. Seem's to be the magic combination. Personally, the only pistol I own as of yet is a Para Ordinance P12.45. I don't believe Para makes this model anymore due to the popularity and capability of the P10.45 to make up the market share in this area. The P12 is a great little single action sub-compact with a 3.5" barrel. It fires .45 ACP and has a twelve round magazine capacity +1 in the chamber. It's small enough for concealed carry, and despite the stagger-stack magazine, it fits your hand nicely. Pretty accurate at medium and short range. Good self defence and carry pistol. Of course, if you really need twelve rounds of .45 ammo to take down an assailant, you've got bigger problems to deal with. The model I have is an alloy frame and blued steel body. I'd love a Kimber Ultra CDP II, but there's no way I could afford the $1100 to $1200 to pull one down. A word of caution.....45 ACP is a great self defense round with a ton of stopping power, however it isn't cheap to shoot for target practice. The 9mm Beretta would be a good buy if you plan on shooting a lot of target loads. 9mm's can be picked up pretty cheap in bulk, and the bottom line is, if you shoot the bad guy, he's not going to care if it's a .45 or a 9mm or a .22. All he knows is that he got a cap busted off in his...well, you know . For comparison...a typical box of 50 rounds runs about: 9mm = $6.50.......(a case of 500 runs around $65.00) 40S&W = $8.00.......(a case of 500 runs around $85.00) 45ACP = $14.00 --nathan __________________ '91 GT, Coast 347, 9.5:1 compression, full intake, Wolverine 1087 cam, exhaust, Keith Craft ported Windsor Jr. Irons (235 cfm intake, 195 cfm exhaust), AOD, PI 3500 converter, Lentech valve body, 3.73's (4.10's in the works), and Yokohama ES100's out back. Daily Car: '04 Infiniti G35 Sedan 6MT Last edited by silver_pilate; 11-18-2002 at 08:47 PM..