Broke the Cobra...again.

bigwhitecobra · 06-14-2001, 12:12 AM

I have no idea what I broke, but the engine and tranny are sitting cock-eyed. I know the first thing out of everyone's mouth is the motormount or tranny mount, but they are fine. I won't bore you with the specifics, but I threw the belt off, and the cold air kit popped off, and the motor is sitting about 2-3" lower on the driver's side rear. The shifter is cocked so that first and second gears rub the console piece around the shifter. God I wish I could cuss on here.

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The Black Mamba 11.2@124
1994 Cobra

[This message has been edited by bigwhitecobra (edited 06-14-2001).]

90dpscoupe · 06-14-2001, 12:48 AM

Damn, i would definately check that area a little harder, mounts, crossmember, somewhere on the frame, did it happen while racing, or hard acceleration?

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90 lx coupe: 175k miles, steeda water pump pully, hurst shifter, Mac cold air fenderwell, accel supercoil, ADS chip, aluminum D/S, Black magic fan, 3.27grs.
Best time: 13.9116(on 225/60/15 firehawks)
Best mph: 98.17
Best 60': 1.9607

next mods: subframes, mac h-pipe

06-14-2001, 02:05 AM

Did the K-member physically break??? That's just weird, I don't think anything would bend like that without it being obvious elsewhere. Hope you figure out what it is!

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'84 Mustang 5.0 LX
My car

WHITECOBRAGIRL94 · 06-14-2001, 08:41 AM

He said he did it under hard
acceleration, shifting from
first to second. Good thing
is she can be driven if need
be.

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Amy(wife of bigwhitecobra)
94 Mustang Cobra: off-road h-pipe, 3:73 gears, motersports underdrive pulleys, MAC cold air induction, MAC 1 1/2 inch lowering springs, K&N Air filter, Maximum Motersports caster/camber plates. steeda tri-ax shifter, Motorsports King Cobra Clutch with Steeda Cable Linkage.(its a gripper!)
94 Thunderbird SC: only mod is a K&N air filter. But she runs very well and hard.
00 Focus ZTS

tireburner163 · 06-14-2001, 11:28 AM

It's got to be ether the mounts or the K-member. take another look.

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1990 Dodge Dynasty with 275,000 miles. Mods:chiped paint, CD player. Sucks but it was free. Praying for a stang.
The "Guetto Glider"

If it ain't broke, you ain't tryin hard enough

tireburner163 · 06-14-2001, 11:30 AM

The good news is that your trying hard enough

(check my sig)

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1990 Dodge Dynasty with 275,000 miles. Mods:chiped paint, CD player. Sucks but it was free. Praying for a stang.
The "Guetto Glider"

If it ain't broke, you ain't tryin hard enough

bigwhitecobra · 06-14-2001, 10:34 PM

tireburner163....I was just about to ask if I was trying hard enough.

I checked the k member, and everything I could put a flash light's beam on, but came up M T handed. What happened is I was pulling out from work and I suppose I hit some water, and as any good 'Stanger knows, I lost traction. No biggie. I just shifted, and started to accelerate away, when the rear end started hopping. After about three to four hops I figured out what I was doing and stopped, at which time the battery light, check engine light, and some other light came on. I lost power steering and knew that the belt had popped off. And you know the rest of the story.

SO.....any takers? Some one tonight said that I might have warped the driveshaft, but I have no idea how valid that might be. So, again, any takers?

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The Black Mamba 11.2@124
1994 Cobra

Old Guy with 87 GT · 06-15-2001, 05:52 AM

sorry cobra .......didn't mean to accuse u of doing anything wrong.....was going off of the post i read and trying to come up with explanations as to what might have broke......i would try to un bolt moter mounts and pull them out to inspect.also look at the k member and all the mounting brackets to see if u can see signs of bending.....if you see nothing wrong than try to bolt engine back up in proper alighnment....maybe somthing just shifted in an elongated hole and just needs realighned......well good luck.

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old guy with 87 gt....well not so old guy
87gt,T top -155,000 on odometer-mods-2 1/2 ex,cold air(home made),adj.clutch 5.0 shifter,kyb shocks,and a stereo that can overcome the wind noise at 100 mph with the T tops off(he he)......also got/78,6banger,mustang/80 capri(future project)

oldman · 06-15-2001, 10:57 PM

I agree. It sounds like the mounts either went away or alowed the engine to twist on the mounting pads of the K-member. I did something similar to this on the cleveland once. THe motor mount can also collapse enough to drop one side and still look fairly normal to visual inspection. It's got to be one of the three mounts or something associated with it. Try this. Have Momma drive the car back and forth a few feet while you watch the engine with the hood up. See if it moves excessively in either direction. Another way is to accelerate moderately in both directions and see if there is significant movement of the shifter when the engine torques. Good luck

06-14-2001, 12:12 AM	#1
bigwhitecobra Huh? Whatcha said? Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 1,073	Broke the Cobra...again. I have no idea what I broke, but the engine and tranny are sitting cock-eyed. I know the first thing out of everyone's mouth is the motormount or tranny mount, but they are fine. I won't bore you with the specifics, but I threw the belt off, and the cold air kit popped off, and the motor is sitting about 2-3" lower on the driver's side rear. The shifter is cocked so that first and second gears rub the console piece around the shifter. God I wish I could cuss on here. ------------------ The Black Mamba 11.2@124 1994 Cobra [This message has been edited by bigwhitecobra (edited 06-14-2001).]

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06-14-2001, 12:48 AM	#2
90dpscoupe Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: sanantonio, Tx, usa Posts: 1,407	Damn, i would definately check that area a little harder, mounts, crossmember, somewhere on the frame, did it happen while racing, or hard acceleration? ------------------ 90 lx coupe: 175k miles, steeda water pump pully, hurst shifter, Mac cold air fenderwell, accel supercoil, ADS chip, aluminum D/S, Black magic fan, 3.27grs. Best time: 13.9116(on 225/60/15 firehawks) Best mph: 98.17 Best 60': 1.9607 next mods: subframes, mac h-pipe

06-14-2001, 02:05 AM	#3
84stangLX Guest Posts: n/a	Did the K-member physically break??? That's just weird, I don't think anything would bend like that without it being obvious elsewhere. Hope you figure out what it is! ------------------ '84 Mustang 5.0 LX My car

06-14-2001, 08:41 AM	#4
WHITECOBRAGIRL94 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Mooresville, NC Posts: 105	He said he did it under hard acceleration, shifting from first to second. Good thing is she can be driven if need be. ------------------ Amy(wife of bigwhitecobra) 94 Mustang Cobra: off-road h-pipe, 3:73 gears, motersports underdrive pulleys, MAC cold air induction, MAC 1 1/2 inch lowering springs, K&N Air filter, Maximum Motersports caster/camber plates. steeda tri-ax shifter, Motorsports King Cobra Clutch with Steeda Cable Linkage.(its a gripper!) 94 Thunderbird SC: only mod is a K&N air filter. But she runs very well and hard. 00 Focus ZTS

06-14-2001, 11:28 AM	#5
tireburner163 It's a lot like a race car Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Meridian, MS Posts: 4,130	It's got to be ether the mounts or the K-member. take another look. ------------------ 1990 Dodge Dynasty with 275,000 miles. Mods:chiped paint, CD player. Sucks but it was free. Praying for a stang. The "Guetto Glider" If it ain't broke, you ain't tryin hard enough

06-14-2001, 11:30 AM	#6
tireburner163 It's a lot like a race car Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Meridian, MS Posts: 4,130	The good news is that your trying hard enough (check my sig) ------------------ 1990 Dodge Dynasty with 275,000 miles. Mods:chiped paint, CD player. Sucks but it was free. Praying for a stang. The "Guetto Glider" If it ain't broke, you ain't tryin hard enough

06-14-2001, 10:34 PM	#7
bigwhitecobra Huh? Whatcha said? Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 1,073	tireburner163....I was just about to ask if I was trying hard enough. I checked the k member, and everything I could put a flash light's beam on, but came up M T handed. What happened is I was pulling out from work and I suppose I hit some water, and as any good 'Stanger knows, I lost traction. No biggie. I just shifted, and started to accelerate away, when the rear end started hopping. After about three to four hops I figured out what I was doing and stopped, at which time the battery light, check engine light, and some other light came on. I lost power steering and knew that the belt had popped off. And you know the rest of the story. SO.....any takers? Some one tonight said that I might have warped the driveshaft, but I have no idea how valid that might be. So, again, any takers? ------------------ The Black Mamba 11.2@124 1994 Cobra

06-15-2001, 05:52 AM	#8
Old Guy with 87 GT Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Harrisburg, Pennsylvania Posts: 379	sorry cobra .......didn't mean to accuse u of doing anything wrong.....was going off of the post i read and trying to come up with explanations as to what might have broke......i would try to un bolt moter mounts and pull them out to inspect.also look at the k member and all the mounting brackets to see if u can see signs of bending.....if you see nothing wrong than try to bolt engine back up in proper alighnment....maybe somthing just shifted in an elongated hole and just needs realighned......well good luck. ------------------ old guy with 87 gt....well not so old guy 87gt,T top -155,000 on odometer-mods-2 1/2 ex,cold air(home made),adj.clutch 5.0 shifter,kyb shocks,and a stereo that can overcome the wind noise at 100 mph with the T tops off(he he)......also got/78,6banger,mustang/80 capri(future project)

06-15-2001, 10:57 PM	#9
oldman Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Amarillo, Texas, 79107 Posts: 78	I agree. It sounds like the mounts either went away or alowed the engine to twist on the mounting pads of the K-member. I did something similar to this on the cleveland once. THe motor mount can also collapse enough to drop one side and still look fairly normal to visual inspection. It's got to be one of the three mounts or something associated with it. Try this. Have Momma drive the car back and forth a few feet while you watch the engine with the hood up. See if it moves excessively in either direction. Another way is to accelerate moderately in both directions and see if there is significant movement of the shifter when the engine torques. Good luck