Whats a good N/A 6 banger car for drag racing.

Dark_5.0 · 03-26-2003, 04:33 PM

I wanna build a car to compete in the 6 cylinder naturaly aspirated class here at my local track.

All I can think of are 300zx's off the top of my head. I want something I can buy cheap like 1,500-2,000 dollars it doesnt have to look that great.

Any suggestions,

tireburner163 · 03-26-2003, 05:07 PM

something with a Chevy 4.3 liter would be good. They're pretty easy to mod.

LayanRubr · 03-26-2003, 05:08 PM

The 70's 240 Datsun Z's are quick and fun to mess with. Straight six and they can take a beating. Also there pretty cheap and they have good communitys of enthusiasts.

The Deuce · 03-26-2003, 06:00 PM

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Originally posted by LayanRubr
The 70's 240 Datsun Z's are quick and fun to mess with. Straight six and they can take a beating. Also there pretty cheap and they have good communitys of enthusiasts.

You can get a dual weber, or single holley carb set up for the straight 6. The 240's were the lightest, and the aftermarket is straight huge for these cars. Very light, good torque. Try to find a 2.8 block and work the crap out of the head. I've seen these cars hold up to a 350 swap no sweat, so torque is no issue.

The only thing you'll have to figure out is how to swap in an 8.8, because you've got IRS issues here. I never noticed hop with mine, but then again I was only making maybe 140bhp.

fiveohpatrol · 03-26-2003, 08:22 PM

Ford's 4.0L is pretty potent for a 6banger.

Does the engine have to be in its original vehicle?

Capri306 · 03-26-2003, 09:39 PM

I'd use an inline-6 3.3L Jaguar engine with a longer rod, polished head, and custom manifolds. JMHO.

84LX89GT · 03-27-2003, 12:52 AM

Is it bracket racing you're entering or are you trying to actually go fast with a 6?

For a bracket racer i'd look for like a V6 camaro (i know...ugh...but they are VERY cheap and have a V6) or maybe an S10 truck, most vehicles with the 2.8L V6 go pretty cheap. You could also get any Fox Body Ford (LTD, Thunderbird, e.g.) from the mid 80's with a 3.8L for VERY cheap as well. If you want a budget racer i'd probably stick with something domestic, import parts can get expensive if you happen to blow something important that was only offered a certain year on a certain model for example.

Just some ideas

Do you want something sporty, or something just with a V6?

Dark_5.0 · 03-27-2003, 09:30 AM

It is heads up racing and the typical car in this class is running in the 15's.

The engine doesnt have to be in the original car. The thing is my mustangs are not fast enough to compete in a heads up racing event. The N/A V8's are running 9's

If I could get a 6 banger in the 14's I would be very competitive.

blue00gt · 03-27-2003, 12:11 PM

I would go for an older Z car like some others suggested. You can put the 2.8L from a 280ZX in an older 240Z. I had one with dual webers, cam, header, hi-flow cat and catback, lightened flywheel, centerforce, close-ratio tranny from a 260, and a few other odds and ends and it moved pretty good for an N/A 6. I never ran it down the track but I'd say it was around a high-14 second car judging from some of my friends' cars that I raced. You can also get stroker kits to bump the 2.8L up to 3.1L.
Or if you want to be a bit more unique, I knew a guy at the local track here with a '63 Nova with the old carbureted straight six and he was running solid 13's on motor only! Don't know much about what it takes to build the power with those motors, but I know it can done.

The Deuce · 03-27-2003, 02:51 PM

You only need to run 14's?

Easy money. Find a pinto, drop in any 6 you find and get some gears.

Actually a breathed on 4.0 Jeep i-6 would be a real good idea.

Dark_5.0 · 03-27-2003, 05:16 PM

Man, I cant do a pinto. I am going to go with a regular cab S-10 truck with a 4.3 liter V6.

Thanks for all of your replies,

MidNiteBlu 5.0 · 03-27-2003, 06:39 PM

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Originally posted by Dark_5.0
Man, I cant do a pinto. I am going to go with a regular cab S-10 truck with a 4.3 liter V6.

Thanks for all of your replies,

friend of mine had one of those before he bought his 95 GT. he had 3.42 gears, intake, exhuast and ignition and it was a stick and it was fairly quick. i dont know times though. Ill ask him next time i talk to him.

429mustang · 03-27-2003, 09:09 PM

Build a Chevette w/4.3. Works the heads, run high-a*s compression/race gas w/5 speed and tall gears/drag shocks. It's a chevy, but I'm sure it would definitely cruise.

Coupe Devil · 03-27-2003, 10:50 PM

Heck man Get ya a old pinto and I'l lsell ya a good 86 model 2.8 and auto to go in it...

Bradley

I know your not going to buy this stuff I just need it gone to pay for my toys.

this is not cbring · 03-28-2003, 09:11 PM

did anybody say bimmer?

The Deuce · 03-28-2003, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by this is not cbring
did anybody say bimmer?

We would have, had he not put a $2,000 cap on the idea.

this is not cbring · 03-29-2003, 10:42 AM

if you are lucky (just like finding good deals on all cars), old bimmers can be had for next to nothing......

i picked up a running bimmer for $200

BLACK85GT · 04-02-2003, 09:08 PM

how about a grand national

03-26-2003, 04:33 PM	#1
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	Whats a good N/A 6 banger car for drag racing. I wanna build a car to compete in the 6 cylinder naturaly aspirated class here at my local track. All I can think of are 300zx's off the top of my head. I want something I can buy cheap like 1,500-2,000 dollars it doesnt have to look that great. Any suggestions, __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

03-26-2003, 05:07 PM	#2
tireburner163 It's a lot like a race car Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Meridian, MS Posts: 4,130	something with a Chevy 4.3 liter would be good. They're pretty easy to mod. __________________ 1987 Buick T-type 1998 HD Electra Elide

03-26-2003, 05:08 PM	#3
LayanRubr Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Aggieland, Texas Posts: 297	The 70's 240 Datsun Z's are quick and fun to mess with. Straight six and they can take a beating. Also there pretty cheap and they have good communitys of enthusiasts. __________________ 87 Mustang 5.0 (308) Notchback - The Blue Baron Rice Hater's Club member #20

03-26-2003, 08:22 PM	#5
fiveohpatrol I'd rather be basketweaving Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,551	Ford's 4.0L is pretty potent for a 6banger. Does the engine have to be in its original vehicle? __________________ NMRA O/C 9516 NA pumpgas stickshift 347 10.65@125.6, 6.73@100, 1.41 60ft

03-26-2003, 09:39 PM	#6
Capri306 Moderator Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan, USA Posts: 1,001	I'd use an inline-6 3.3L Jaguar engine with a longer rod, polished head, and custom manifolds. JMHO. __________________ Capri306, Moderator The Mustang Works Online 1979 Mercury Capri 1987 5.0L Mustang LX Notchback 1993 5.8L Eddie Bauer Bronco

03-27-2003, 12:52 AM	#7
84LX89GT Mustangs Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 1,938	Is it bracket racing you're entering or are you trying to actually go fast with a 6? For a bracket racer i'd look for like a V6 camaro (i know...ugh...but they are VERY cheap and have a V6) or maybe an S10 truck, most vehicles with the 2.8L V6 go pretty cheap. You could also get any Fox Body Ford (LTD, Thunderbird, e.g.) from the mid 80's with a 3.8L for VERY cheap as well. If you want a budget racer i'd probably stick with something domestic, import parts can get expensive if you happen to blow something important that was only offered a certain year on a certain model for example. Just some ideas Do you want something sporty, or something just with a V6? __________________ 2005 Suzuki Hayabusa GSX1300-R 1980 Ford Thunderbird - 255 V8 ported heads, 5.0L ported stock headers, O.R. H-pipe and Flowmaster 2-chambers, dual roller timing chain hi-po Mack Truck hood emblem 1985 Mustang GT 5.0L T5, F-303, GT40p, headers, off-road h, flowmasters, MSD stuff, etc. Sold 02/06/04 1989 Mustang GT ET: 13.304@102.29 mph (5-24-03) Sold - 1998 Mustang Cobra coupe, 1/4 mile - street tires: 13.843@103.41 (bone stock)

03-27-2003, 09:30 AM	#8
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	It is heads up racing and the typical car in this class is running in the 15's. The engine doesnt have to be in the original car. The thing is my mustangs are not fast enough to compete in a heads up racing event. The N/A V8's are running 9's If I could get a 6 banger in the 14's I would be very competitive. __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

03-27-2003, 12:11 PM	#9
blue00gt Mustang Addict Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: McKinney, TX Posts: 1,294	I would go for an older Z car like some others suggested. You can put the 2.8L from a 280ZX in an older 240Z. I had one with dual webers, cam, header, hi-flow cat and catback, lightened flywheel, centerforce, close-ratio tranny from a 260, and a few other odds and ends and it moved pretty good for an N/A 6. I never ran it down the track but I'd say it was around a high-14 second car judging from some of my friends' cars that I raced. You can also get stroker kits to bump the 2.8L up to 3.1L. Or if you want to be a bit more unique, I knew a guy at the local track here with a '63 Nova with the old carbureted straight six and he was running solid 13's on motor only! Don't know much about what it takes to build the power with those motors, but I know it can done. __________________ Strike down the unroadworthy! 2000 GT Atl. Blue: '03 Cobra motor - 465rwhp/473rwtq, T-56 6-speed, full MM TA/PH & tubular K-member suspension, Saleen body, 17" Torq-Thrust II's, M/T ET Street radials, and lots more '94 Rio Red Cobra: All the bolt-ons, 3.73s

03-27-2003, 02:51 PM	#10
The Deuce Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,325	You only need to run 14's? Easy money. Find a pinto, drop in any 6 you find and get some gears. Actually a breathed on 4.0 Jeep i-6 would be a real good idea. __________________ 1997 Mustang GT "The Freak" - 13.80 @ 101.70, 2.07 60' 1995 Honda VFR750 - not much @ really fast (actual data pending.) 1964.5 Mustang 289 Rice Haters Club Member #13

03-27-2003, 05:16 PM	#11
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	Man, I cant do a pinto. I am going to go with a regular cab S-10 truck with a 4.3 liter V6. Thanks for all of your replies, __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

03-27-2003, 09:09 PM	#13
429mustang Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: westerville, OH USA Posts: 618	Build a Chevette w/4.3. Works the heads, run high-a*s compression/race gas w/5 speed and tall gears/drag shocks. It's a chevy, but I'm sure it would definitely cruise. __________________ 1990 Notchback: BBK Ceramic Coated Full length headers, Dr. Gas 3"- 2 1/2" x-pipe, Flowmaster 40's/turndowns.

03-27-2003, 10:50 PM	#14
Coupe Devil Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Myrtle Beach SC Posts: 1,643	Heck man Get ya a old pinto and I'l lsell ya a good 86 model 2.8 and auto to go in it... Bradley I know your not going to buy this stuff I just need it gone to pay for my toys. __________________ 1990 GT, 347, TFS TW Heads, TFS Cam, TFS Track heat, Twin turbos, FMIC, T5. Built Ford Tough Moderator

03-28-2003, 09:11 PM	#15
this is not cbring Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 380	did anybody say bimmer? __________________ 2002 vw gti 1.8T

03-29-2003, 10:42 AM	#17
this is not cbring Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 380	if you are lucky (just like finding good deals on all cars), old bimmers can be had for next to nothing...... i picked up a running bimmer for $200 __________________ 2002 vw gti 1.8T

04-02-2003, 09:08 PM	#18
BLACK85GT Registered Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tampa,FLORIDA Posts: 340	how about a grand national __________________ 5.0, Holley heads, 1.7 Scorp Rockers, Stealth intake, Holley 600 carb, Holley Mech. Fuel pump, MSD 6Digital, MSD distributor, Hotchkis upper/lower rear control arms, FMS B Springs, 3:73 (8.8) rear. Production # 9,377

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