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12-29-2003, 01:00 PM | #1 |
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Resale Value
Comparison from MSN.com used cars reliability page of 2000 Mustang GT and Acura Integra Type R coupe. Which car held its resale value the best according to Kelly Blue book? Which one would you rather have?
General Pricing Mustang GT Coupe Integra Type R Coupe Base Retail Price (MSRP) $21,205 $24,350 Base Invoice Price $19,292 $21,950 Kelley Blue Book Price $12,400 - $13,200 $14,650 - $15,650 Engines & Power Standard Engine 4.6L 260 hp V8 1.8L 195 hp I4 Transmissions Mustang GT Coupe Integra Type R Coupe Standard Transmission 5-Speed Manual Overdrive 5-Speed Manual Overdrive Optional Transmission 4-Speed Automatic Overdrive No data Fuel Economy Mustang GT Coupe Integra Type R Coupe City (mpg) 17 25 Highway (mpg) 24 - 25 30 Comfort & Convenience Air Conditioning Std. Std. Power Windows Std. Std. Power Door Locks Std. Std. Leather Seats Opt. N/A Power Seats Opt. N/A Max. Seating 4 4 Entertainment CD Player Std. Std. Airbags Driver/Psngr Driver/Psngr ABS Brakes Std. Std. Traction Control Std. N/A Model Warranty Basic (mo.) 36 48 Basic (mi.) 36,000 50,000 Powertrain (mo.) 36 48 Powertrain (mi.) 36,000 50,000 Rust (mo.) 60 60
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12-29-2003, 03:10 PM | #2 |
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My opinion the Acura Integra looks like weenie car.
Definitely the stang.
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12-29-2003, 09:21 PM | #4 |
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Resale value is based upon how many of these cars are at your local area. If the auction is flooded with let say "Mustangs" then the value drops. They will try to sort them out through out the country to keep the value up, but sometimes they are just flooded everywhere. The factory rebates for the same model also plays a huge role in value.
You want to know what your cars is worth,...then check the black book value. They are updated weekly! Only dealers have them and good luck at getting a peek. This year dealers were even able to buy cars/trucks below black book!!!! Kelleys blue book was at that time,... way off!!!!!!!! Example: This year in the Spring you could pick up a 2003 Expedition Limited with 6,000 miles for around the mid to low twentyes. They're $40,000 plus brand new!! Dealers will also travel great lengths to get that better deal as well. If you're a dealer buying alot of cars, you will travel where ever the best deals are for that model. So don't worry about resale value to much. Just get the car or truck you want. I know this because, I helped out various auction sites through out the country. |
12-31-2003, 09:31 PM | #5 |
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KBB is a bunch of crap. thats what the dealer wants you to pay, not what the car is really worth on the open market.
Im not sure i see the point of the original post? was there one? |
01-01-2004, 01:25 PM | #6 |
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My point is that the two cars hold value about the same. Have heard a lot about Mustang not holding value like Toyota. I make the assumption here that the numbers are at least consistent if not correct absolutely or regionally. So you pay ~$3K more for the Toyota and you get marginally better retention of value and better gas miles.
I will give up the gas milage and 2-3% better value retenion for the lower orignal price and incrediably better prformance of the GT any day of the week. I really want a GT. Have not added in the difference in interest on the $3K that you would pay if you financed. GT Acura Diff MSRP 21205 24350 3145 Invoice 19292 21950 2658 KBB 12800 15150 2350 % Retention 63% 66% 2% Just trying to use some data to discuss resale value versus just hearing the statement that Toyota is better than Ford on resale.
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01-01-2004, 01:28 PM | #7 |
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Sorry, I can not seem to get the posts to hold formatting for columns but maybe you can see the numbers in the last post as a table of values for the GT and the Acura.
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01-01-2004, 03:14 PM | #8 |
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Generally speaking, the JAp brands demand a higher resale value due to thier reputation as being a superior product.
If you look a few more years down the road, like maybe 6 years old instead of 3, you will probably see the stangs value plummet. the one car i noticed that demands a high resale is the Honda Civiv. Ive seen used ones for as much as brand new. |
01-02-2004, 12:22 PM | #9 |
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Along with what 420nitro stated, it seems to me that the Type R would have a slightly higher resale value just for the fact that it is a special model. It's much harder to find a new or especially used Type R than it is a Mustang GT (at least around here.....by far).
Another thing, think about it, there are more people in this nation who just want some economy car with great gas mileage (who know very little about vehicles and don't really cherish a good one for performance qualities and such) than there are car enthusiasts. For that simple fact, that way of thinking by the majority (they are the majority), automatically pronounces higher resale values for the underpowered, high gas mileage Hondas and Toyotas. So dealers and magazines play into that lie so people will buy so they can make money. Hey, it's the current trend so import dealers are using it for their advantage and the ignorant Americans are buying so hey, guess what, it does have higher resale (not necessarily resale value, b/c that is a matter of opinion and preference). Now, look at it this way. If the majority of Americans in the U.S. were real car enthusiasts, the current trend would be that the Mustang or the LS1s had the highest resale values, not a shamefully underpowered, overrated Hondas and Toyotas with their cheap quality interiors and lack of options. (*venting has ended.... for now*)
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01-05-2004, 04:36 PM | #10 |
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I'm all about mustangs, torque and rear wheel drive vehicles so i'm automatically going to say mustang GT. If i wanted a commuter i'd still get a mustang GT because it's not like the 60's where these things get 10-15mpg, just about the only vehicle that does that anymore is the mammoth 6.8L excursion or the new dodge hemi (really now, who puts a high winding, high horsepower engine into a vehicle that needs only lowend torque??? It's not like you tow something with your durango at 5,000 rpm.) Anyway, if i got a great deal on an integra i would drive it, but i'd much rather have a mustang no matter the resale value.
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