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[stanger66]

FORD ONLY IN MY BOOK!!

Ive tried other cars honda civic, toyota camry, chysler products(cj5-7, spirit, pontiac sunterd, chevy cavalier, bmw 318i, vw jetta, and I'll kill myself before I would even think buying anything but FORD.

The best running and long lastng car I've had Is 89' GR. MARQUIS I got 429,978 miles out of it and still had the original drivetrain in it. Never had any problems other than normal maintaince issues.

Hell I got 215K out of my 87' stang lx 5.0 before I totalled it. (big tree at 110 mph)

I have had at least 6 mustangs since Ive been driving

The #1 car if I had to money (150k +) ford GT and drive until it died.
74-78 mustang II cobra w/600+hp I will eventually get and been looking for.
If you are looking for a minivan buy a FREESTAR we got 74k no problem what so ever. Paid for extended warranty and never got to use it-waste of money.

FORD ONLY HERE

[Mach 1]

Originally Posted by Unit 5302

It doesn't help that the Asian manufacturers have pretty much nailed quality issues down

Yes, they do have better build quality over all, but they have more problems than you might think.

Take the new Titan for example, its rated very poorly in quliaty studies and has had many problems. Nissan brought in 200 engineers to the new plant in Mississippi because they qaulity was terrible, They have improved, but still have issues.

I would find it hard to say the Ford F-150 isnt a superior truck to the Nissan. The Nissan does have a lot going for it, but over all quality might still go to ford on this one.

I dont think the diffeences are as great as you make them out to be. Yes, the imports have the edge, but domestics are decent overall, well, unless its a GM....lol.

[stanger66]

Hey mach 1

Isnt the titan sort of based off the f150 (new one of course) they sort of look the same in out pretty much but the engine I know is different. With me if I had to choose of honda or nissan I would go Nissan. My Mom started with a datsun 240 in the 70's and went to the 300zx tt and now has the g35 coupe. My opinion is that ford is #1 but if I couldnt have it I would probably take nissan over all other cars out there. Especially GM junk!!!!!!!

ross

[Mach 1]

Originally Posted by stanger66

Hey mach 1

Isnt the titan sort of based off the f150 (new one of course) they sort of look the same in out pretty much but the engine I know is different. With me if I had to choose of honda or nissan I would go Nissan. My Mom started with a datsun 240 in the 70's and went to the 300zx tt and now has the g35 coupe. My opinion is that ford is #1 but if I couldnt have it I would probably take nissan over all other cars out there. Especially GM junk!!!!!!!

ross

Well, they are similar in size, but not based off one or the other. The F-150 is the big dog on the block, and what all the other full size truck makers are gunning for to take a piece of the huge sales volume of these vehicles.

The Titan has a better engine/transmission, but has rear end differential failures and some other issues that nissan is trying to improve on, like the brakes. It had bad brakes the first year and a half of production, but they eventually fixed the problem. Took longer than some would have liked.

Theres nothing wrong with Hondas, they will probably edge out Nissan and most others in overall quality and reliability, but they are boring, ugly and no fun to drive.

Pick your poisen....

[stanger66]

Now which one boring, ugly and no fun Nissan or honda

Because when I sold Nissan's it was smoking the tires off the maxs, alts 3.5 version, spec-v 6spds just to have fun the maxs and alts I could burn them through 2nd and spec-v burn through 2nd and chip 3rd and 4th.

[Rev]

Originally Posted by stanger66

Now which one boring, ugly and no fun Nissan or honda

Because when I sold Nissan's it was smoking the tires off the maxs, alts 3.5 version, spec-v 6spds just to have fun the maxs and alts I could burn them through 2nd and spec-v burn through 2nd and chip 3rd and 4th.

I'm always amused when lack of traction is confused with good performance.

Rev

[Mach 1]

I meant the honda was boring and ugly. Nissan has a more appealing, sporty design and better performace than the honda for the most part.

And yes, being able to smoke the tires on a stock car these days does mean it had good performance

[Rev]

Originally Posted by Mach 1

I meant the honda was boring and ugly. Nissan has a more appealing, sporty design and better performace than the honda for the most part.

And yes, being able to smoke the tires on a stock car these days does mean it had good performance

Wasn't really meaning to respond to the "boring/ugly" assessment. I was thinking more about the smoking the tires through 1st, 2nd, chirping 3rd, 4th comment. A car would be lucky to run 15's with that kind of tire spin from what I've seen over the years.

Rev

[Mach 1]

Its all relevant. If a new car that runs 15's can break the tires loose, its not bad compared to the majority of 18 second grocery getters.

I dont think he was comparing them to 12-13 second cars with aftermarket mods.

[Unit 5302]

Truckworld is a different story. The Toyota Tundra is an F-150 copied as much as possible while avoiding lawsuits (like the one Ford filed after Toyota announced their plans to name their truck the T-150).

The foreign guys do seem to have quality issues in the trucks for some reason. I suppose it might be a size/weight thing. Look at all the trouble Subaru had with the SVX after producing a lot of solid smaller cars. The SVX's transmission just couldn't deal with the heat produced from the bigger engine, heavier weight and taller gearing.

[Mach 1]

yeah, your right, thier trucks arent as good as thier cars. I guess its experience, and they dont have it when it comes to full size trucks.

[Unit 5302]

By the way, my little sisters' Focus dropped a valve and blew the engine last night... just a tick over 100k.

I can tell you right now, she'll never own another Ford, and that folks, is how Ford gets a bad quality rep.

[Mach 1]

tell her to put oil in it next time...

[Unit 5302]

It's honestly not all that funny. They're moving this weekend, and she's expecting in a couple months so they really don't have money to throw at these types of problems. Nice that it occured one month after her last car payment.

Just as an FYI, all the scheduled maintanence, including oil changes at 3k have been done since it was brand new.

[Rev]

Aren't pick up trucks almost always light in the rear end due to their payload carrying needs? I've never seen one that would get a good launch without modifications meant to optimize traction at the expense of "truck-like" functions (Lightning comes to mind).

Spinning tires doesn't mean fast, whether stock or modded. It just means wasted power that could have been put towards forwad motion (acceleration).

Rev

[Mach 1]

they are light in the rear because theres nothing there, just a empty shell for a bed. Not because of their payload carrying needs.

traction aiding devices do nothing to hurt the payload capability . why would they? traction bars dont take away from the beds ability to carry cargo.

[Rev]

The suspensions on pick up trucks are designed to function best with the truck loaded with 1000-2000 lbs. in the bed. That's what trucks do, carry a payload. Poor traction in an unloaded condition is just a necessary trade off for that ability to haul stuff. That should seem fairly obvious from my point of view. Not that I don't like trucks, I couldn't live without one.

Rev

[Mach 1]

whatever....i couldnt have made it any clearer for you....