wut do i need to switch from 4 to 8?

RAGE_5.0 · 10-12-2001, 06:36 PM

my buddy can get a sweet deal on a 92lx which has 90000 kilometres(60000miles) for 2000-2500(1300-1500 american)he wants to eventually switch iot to a 302

wut does he need
bellhousing,t5,302,rearend,driveshaft trans and engine mounts,cpu
i know this has been asked a million times but i never payed much attention to it because i never thpought i would have to swap them
thx for any advice

JAMES

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Black 1990 gt cobra bonestock
not for long

Crazy Horse GT · 10-12-2001, 09:23 PM

he will also need the v-8 front spring's etc if he can find a wrecked v-8 car he will be ahead. later

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PGkelly · 10-14-2001, 08:35 PM

K-member, suspension, wheels, just about everything. let me know how it goes (MCVillain45@aol.com), a 4cyl to v8 swap might be in my future too.

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If it ain't broke, make it go faster

AOL: MCVillain45

84LX89GT · 10-14-2001, 09:03 PM

To make his car just functional with a 302 (not considering ride quality or braking) from what i understand, he will need these:
V8 motor mounts (the engine crossmember is the same)
His car may already have a double hump crossmember for the transmission, but if not he will have to get one for dual exhaust as well as an H-pipe hanger bracket.
A 2 core or larger radiator instead of the one core 4 banger radiator.
A stronger transmission (the 2.3L T-5 doesn't do good under any kind of abuse), but if he feels like driving like a grandma the 4 cyl one will work.
Another good idea is an 8.8" rear axle instead of the stock non-traction lok 7.5" rear end.
He will also need the computer out of the V8.
He will need the instrument cluster out of a V8 donor car because the stock tachometer for the 4 cylinder won't work properly or he can buy an aftermarket tach.
The driveshaft is the same length and can be re-used.

Good ideas for the future after the swap:
The 4 cylinder springs are good for drag racing, but are soft as well as the stock struts/shocks so replacing them would make it handle well. Also the 4 cylinders didn't come with rear sway bars, and adding one at any time will make a huge difference in handling
To convert to the 11" brakes of the 5.0L's he'd have to get new spindles, struts (mounting points are different between the 10" brakes and 11" brakes), i believe master cylinder, calipers and lines.
The A-arms are different, the 5.0L ones are low friction and the 4 cylinder ones are standard.
This is all i can remember right now,

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'84 Mustang 5.0 LX
my LX
'89 Mustang GT
my GT

dinomite · 10-14-2001, 09:09 PM

its a lot easeir just to toss a second 2.4l in there, you can push the current one to the side, and fit em both in. you'll need a calibrated Y valve and some tubing so that you can tie the cooling systems together and use one radiator. (hehe)

the 4 cyl. and v8 K-members are the same, and the wheels do fine (what are you talking about, pgkelly?). you will need suspension stuff, though (springs), otherwise it'll sit really low and be bouncie and bad things like that. you've got most of the other stuff.

Fox Body · 10-14-2001, 10:33 PM

What do you need? Money.

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351W-powered 1979 Ford Mustang notchback
Stock 5.8L under custom made 4" cowl, C4 w/ shift kit
Holley 750 cfm, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake
1 5/8" MAC shorty headers, Al driveshaft
2.5" Off road H-pipe, 2-chamber Flowmasters
Front: 225/60/15, Rear: 255/60/15 Eagle GT II
Weld wheels (15x6;15x8), 8.8" Rear w/ 3.55s
14 x 4” K&N air filter. Only a couple of weeks b4 Project FOX begins!!!

"Red, thou art my companion. Hasten now your quickened metamorphosis to Green that I may conquer all who dare abide there beside me. May they be left thither behind burnt black." ---Fox Body

PGkelly · 10-15-2001, 05:21 PM

i said wheels because, if i remember correctly, the 2.3 came with something pathetic like 185 tires. it's not necessary i guess, but a good idea

. i thought K-members were different (at least that's the jist of what i got from unit), but i wasn't totally sure. again, it would be a good idea.

p.s. Fox Body just about summed it up.
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If it ain't broke, make it go faster

AOL: MCVillain45

[This message has been edited by PGkelly (edited 10-15-2001).]

dinomite · 10-15-2001, 09:04 PM

heh, ya, you're right pgkelly, that would not be a happy mustang.

i still like my idea of just tossing another engine in beside the current one, you can get those 2.3's for cheap. you might even have enought mone to toss another one in the trunk...........the tri engine stang.

[This message has been edited by dinomite (edited 10-15-2001).]

10-12-2001, 06:36 PM	#1
RAGE_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Leamington, Ontario, Canada Posts: 767	wut do i need to switch from 4 to 8? my buddy can get a sweet deal on a 92lx which has 90000 kilometres(60000miles) for 2000-2500(1300-1500 american)he wants to eventually switch iot to a 302 wut does he need bellhousing,t5,302,rearend,driveshaft trans and engine mounts,cpu i know this has been asked a million times but i never payed much attention to it because i never thpought i would have to swap them thx for any advice JAMES ------------------ Black 1990 gt cobra bonestock not for long

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10-12-2001, 09:23 PM	#2
Crazy Horse GT Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sale Creek, TN. C. S. A. Posts: 4,652	he will also need the v-8 front spring's etc if he can find a wrecked v-8 car he will be ahead. later ------------------

10-14-2001, 08:35 PM	#3
PGkelly Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 274	K-member, suspension, wheels, just about everything. let me know how it goes (MCVillain45@aol.com), a 4cyl to v8 swap might be in my future too. ------------------ If it ain't broke, make it go faster AOL: MCVillain45

10-14-2001, 09:03 PM	#4
84LX89GT Mustangs Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 1,938	To make his car just functional with a 302 (not considering ride quality or braking) from what i understand, he will need these: V8 motor mounts (the engine crossmember is the same) His car may already have a double hump crossmember for the transmission, but if not he will have to get one for dual exhaust as well as an H-pipe hanger bracket. A 2 core or larger radiator instead of the one core 4 banger radiator. A stronger transmission (the 2.3L T-5 doesn't do good under any kind of abuse), but if he feels like driving like a grandma the 4 cyl one will work. Another good idea is an 8.8" rear axle instead of the stock non-traction lok 7.5" rear end. He will also need the computer out of the V8. He will need the instrument cluster out of a V8 donor car because the stock tachometer for the 4 cylinder won't work properly or he can buy an aftermarket tach. The driveshaft is the same length and can be re-used. Good ideas for the future after the swap: The 4 cylinder springs are good for drag racing, but are soft as well as the stock struts/shocks so replacing them would make it handle well. Also the 4 cylinders didn't come with rear sway bars, and adding one at any time will make a huge difference in handling To convert to the 11" brakes of the 5.0L's he'd have to get new spindles, struts (mounting points are different between the 10" brakes and 11" brakes), i believe master cylinder, calipers and lines. The A-arms are different, the 5.0L ones are low friction and the 4 cylinder ones are standard. This is all i can remember right now, ------------------ Mustang Parts Specialties ripped me off, it could happen to you as well. '84 Mustang 5.0 LX my LX '89 Mustang GT my GT

10-14-2001, 09:09 PM	#5
dinomite The Dude Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 1,262	its a lot easeir just to toss a second 2.4l in there, you can push the current one to the side, and fit em both in. you'll need a calibrated Y valve and some tubing so that you can tie the cooling systems together and use one radiator. (hehe) the 4 cyl. and v8 K-members are the same, and the wheels do fine (what are you talking about, pgkelly?). you will need suspension stuff, though (springs), otherwise it'll sit really low and be bouncie and bad things like that. you've got most of the other stuff.

10-14-2001, 10:33 PM	#6
Fox Body Mustang Maniac Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: GA, U.S.A Posts: 2,266	What do you need? Money. ----------------------------------------- 351W-powered 1979 Ford Mustang notchback Stock 5.8L under custom made 4" cowl, C4 w/ shift kit Holley 750 cfm, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake 1 5/8" MAC shorty headers, Al driveshaft 2.5" Off road H-pipe, 2-chamber Flowmasters Front: 225/60/15, Rear: 255/60/15 Eagle GT II Weld wheels (15x6;15x8), 8.8" Rear w/ 3.55s 14 x 4” K&N air filter. Only a couple of weeks b4 Project FOX* begins!!!* "Red, thou art my companion. Hasten now your quickened metamorphosis to Green that I may conquer all who dare abide there beside me. May they be left thither behind burnt black." ---Fox Body

10-15-2001, 05:21 PM	#7
PGkelly Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 274	i said wheels because, if i remember correctly, the 2.3 came with something pathetic like 185 tires. it's not necessary i guess, but a good idea . i thought K-members were different (at least that's the jist of what i got from unit), but i wasn't totally sure. again, it would be a good idea. p.s. Fox Body just about summed it up. ------------------ If it ain't broke, make it go faster AOL: MCVillain45 [This message has been edited by PGkelly (edited 10-15-2001).]

10-15-2001, 09:04 PM	#8
dinomite The Dude Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 1,262	heh, ya, you're right pgkelly, that would not be a happy mustang. i still like my idea of just tossing another engine in beside the current one, you can get those 2.3's for cheap. you might even have enought mone to toss another one in the trunk...........the tri engine stang. [This message has been edited by dinomite (edited 10-15-2001).]