DYNO RESULTS !!!! :) - Page 2

Skyman · 03-14-2001, 03:19 AM

Yes, It has been over a year now hasn't it.. Well we will see! I'm having some doubts myself too, but anyway you look at it I did pick up some hp. So come march 24th it will all show up.

Skyler

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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, 2 1/4" exhaust, and 4.10's.
332RWHP@5500
351RWTQ@3750
Runs on 87 Octane!

exgmguy · 03-24-2001, 08:16 AM

Sky, I have been gone for a while so I missed this. I had to dig it up. Congrats on those numbers. That is nutty. I would keep those TFS heads unported unless you added a power adder. I think the lower compression, relatively small cam, etc.. don't jive well when you port heads that already flow like crazy.

I have been tuning fuel pressure for the last few days with the "seat of the pants" dyno and going from 40 psi to about 35 at WOT feels much better. Also my car runs fine now when cold. It used to stall if I did not give it gas.

I guess we'll see some track results now!

Once again, congrats!

Dark Knight · 03-25-2001, 05:31 PM

so, how'd the track go?
guess you can tell why I'm not a member at the corral ;-)

Skyman · 03-25-2001, 11:07 PM

12.55

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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, headers and 3chamber flows.
12.55@107mph
Runs on 87 Octane and gets 24mpg!

03-26-2001, 01:07 AM

Way to go SKY!! You've wanted 12's for the longest time and through being persistent,you got them!

Ya,I saw your post over at the Corral also,talk about a bunch of crap in the way they acted towards you..

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Paxton Blown 87GT

Dark Knight · 03-26-2001, 03:20 AM

I'm running more than 16* with my AFR's.. you can run more initial timing with Alum. heads.. I was running 14*, tweaked the timing to who knows where.. 19* or so... and picked up 10RWHP and 10RWTQ, with no detonation and air temp at 87*.. I would think your fuel pressure is way to low also... oh yeah, I run 89 octane gas in mine.. in the winter at least and I have a little more compression due to 58cc heads ;-)

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84 convt,'95 302,AFR's, performer
3.55's, underdrives stock shorties
stock cam, 1.7's
14.06@100.21, 255RWHP on a hot day
265 on the mph/weight chart

Ripper · 03-27-2001, 03:22 PM

Congrats Skyler. I just got finished reading the posts on the Corral, all 4 pages worth. Some of those guys are real d!ckheads. They don't believe jack unless it's smack in their face. I think they were jealous that you were probably putting out more hp than they were with less mods.

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1999 GT - Laser Red
K&N, Steeda pulleys, Steeda strut tower brace & Tri-ax
(Upcoming mods: subframes (bought), Bassani X (next), & FMS 3.73s

Fox Body · 03-27-2001, 06:16 PM

Nice, Skyman.

A 12.5 with those hp ratings, I'm a bit surprised. And that is a lot of torque for that motor. You got yourself a nice car.

If you could answer 2 questions for me though:

1) What tires were you running (I need some of those

)
2) What gears you got out back? 3.73s, 4.10s? (or have you still not checked yet?)

*sigh* (...someday, I'll get to post some 11 second track times...Hopefully b4 this year is over

)

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'79 Mustang Coup
4" Cowl
Weld wheels (15x6;15x8)
Stock 5.8L
C4 w/ shift kit
1.5" MAC full length headers
Holley 750 CFM
Edelbrock intake
2.5" Off road H-pipe, 2-chamber Flowmasters
8.8" Rear end w/ 3.55 gears (Now that's more like it!!)

Front: 225/60/15 Rear: 255/60/15 Eagle GT II
14 x 4” K&N air filter (getting the Xtreme setup soon)

"Red, thou art my companion. Hasten now your quickened metamorphosis to Green that I may conquer all who dare abide there beside me. May they be left thither behind burnt black." ---Fox Body

[This message has been edited by Fox Body (edited 03-27-2001).]

Skyman · 03-27-2001, 09:18 PM

I ran 26x10 Mt Et Drags with 10psi. And 225/50/16s up front.

Sky

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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, headers and 3chamber flows.
12.55@107mph
Runs on 87 Octane and gets 24mpg!

Rick 91GT · 03-28-2001, 08:12 AM

Hey Sky Awesome times and video, I guess those struts, shocks and springs are really working for you.

Looks like it's time for me to slap on my 28" x 10.5" ET DRAGS and see what it's got huh? How do your JAZ seats feel on the street driving? My completion daten will probably be aroud the 20th now the heads got pushed back, the cam should be here today!

Again awesome times, proved some of those guys wrong

that had to feel good.

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Check Out My Site 91GT,Holley SysteMAX II Kit-Heads 2.02" x 1.60" port matched to a 1262,Anderson N-61,24#,76mm C&L,Full MAC exhaust 1-5/8" Long tubes,2-1/2" O.R H-Pipe,2 1/2" cat back, No A/C or PS or emissions, 12" K&N Filter,RNH PERFORMANCE Ram Air,Ron Davis Radiator,Full Suspension,S&W 8pt "X" brace,JAZ seats,3:73's,Welds..etc,4:30's and 31 splines coming very soon!

MY91GT · 03-28-2001, 05:50 PM

Congrats!! How does it feel to finally be in the 12's? Ive been reading the posts on the corral, and I just think they are jealous,....screw them! Start workin on the 11's!!

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TW Heads, Edlebrock RPM, 75mm TB, 75mm MM, Anderson N-2 cam, stock block, underdrives, paxton regulator, bbk 155 intank, 30lbers, motorsport alum rad msd ignition and coil, 3.73 gear, Tremec 3550, Motorsport HD clutch, K&N, hooker shorties, pacesetter h-pipe, and dynomax cat back, mac upper and lower control arms, no front sway bar. I think that's it. GO ILLINI!!!
Waiting for good weather for new times.

Drag4money · 03-28-2001, 07:13 PM

Sky,

We haven't met, but I have a couple of questions hopefully you can help me with..

First my 94 302 had 307RWHP, and 335 ft lbs which was good for a 12.77@105 on 29 inch tall tires.
This cements your info which is why I am asking YOU this question...

I am getting about 18mpg, but I can't even think about 87 octane..

My timing is at 17, bottom end is stock and I'm running the TFS Track Heat heads with the Stage 1 cam...

When you say low compression, I am wondering are you just referring to stock pistons with 61cc heads??

Thanks in advance, and great job with your ride...

D4M

Skyman · 03-28-2001, 08:11 PM

Yeah Im saying I have stock pistons and box stock heads. I run 16degrees initial timing and Ive never had a ping out of the motor.

I dont know why...

Sky

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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, headers and 3chamber flows.
12.55@107mph
Runs on 87 Octane and gets 24mpg!

Red514LX · 03-28-2001, 11:17 PM

12.55 @ 107mph = some good driving! Is that time corrected for altitude?

With your dyno #s, I am very surprised you didn't hit 110mph. That said, for running box stock TFS heads, Edel. intake, and an E303, 107mph in the 1/4 means you are making GOOD power out of that relatively simple combo. When it's all said and done, I'm sure you'll pick up another 1-2mph.

As for the dyno results....well, it's my opinion the numbers are too high. I truly believe that if your car made that kind of power on a mustang dyno, it would run 110mph easy.

Nevertheless, that's not your fault. It's the shop's fault and you shouldn't feel bad about it. You car runs real good for the combo you have.

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Jeff Kane
1990 LX Mustang ex-5.0 Coupe
No engine. No transmission.
Prepping car for a "big" big-block.
http://hometown.aol.com/red514lx/

Skyman · 03-29-2001, 01:56 AM

Drag4money... What other parts do you have on your combo. Give me a run down of everything you have. EVERYTHING. Also those heads you have are much larger than mine, and I think over kill for that cam that you have. Give me all the specs, and maybe we can figure it out.

Sky

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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, headers and 3chamber flows.
12.55@107mph
Runs on 87 Octane and gets 24mpg!

Drag4money · 03-29-2001, 06:25 PM

Thanks for the replies, let me clarify a few things however...

My runs were on a dyno jet as far as the power goes not a mustang dyno.

The ET info I gave was not adjusted, it is right off the time slip..

Here's the info,,,

94 GT 5.0 stock bottom end 74k

3.73's

TFS Track Heat heads 61cc volume 170cc intake runners 66cc exhaust

TFS Stage one cam 499/510 275/279 duration
straight up

1.6 rollers

TFS track heat upper and lower intake

mac 1 5/8 shrties
mac H
mac 2 1/2 3 chamber cat back

FMS 24lb injectors

BBK 255lph intank

paxton FPR

FMS RPM extender

70 MM BBK T/body

Pro-m 75 MM mass air

underdrives

6AL/coil, stock dist.

Megabyte Jr's

Tires were 29/11.50 which I thought were to tall but i borrowed em....The short was 1.72 which I think a shorter tire woulda helped.

D4M

MY91GT · 03-29-2001, 11:29 PM

Just for comparison sake.(Give you another setup to compare it to)
91 full weight GT
TFS heads/ track heat intake
30#inj/75mm MM
65mm TB
Anderson N-2 cam--529/544...282/288 dur
underdrive pulleys
1 5/8 hooker shorties
off road h-pipe/dynomax cat back
T-5 Z/3.73 gear
MSD ignition
No powershifting

1.929 short time
12.98@107.45 mph on street tires.

Just my previous setup...could have ran better if I could shift!!
Hope this adds some insight.

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TW Heads, Edlebrock RPM, 75mm TB, 75mm MM, Anderson N-2 cam, stock block, underdrives, paxton regulator, bbk 155 intank, 30lbers, motorsport alum rad msd ignition and coil, 3.73 gear, Tremec 3550, Motorsport HD clutch, K&N, hooker shorties, pacesetter h-pipe, and dynomax cat back, mac upper and lower control arms, no front sway bar. I think that's it. GO ILLINI!!!
Waiting for good weather for new times.

exgmguy · 04-01-2001, 06:23 AM

300 at the wheels on a Dynojet is usually 270ish on a Mustang Dyno.

NoSlow5.0 · 04-01-2001, 01:03 PM

That is great sky! Looks like a pretty nice set up you have there. You think you will switch out the cam and intake later on? Light Em Up!!!

Skyman · 04-01-2001, 02:47 PM

thast what Im debating right now.. Im going to post a topic on it in windsor power.

Sky

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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, headers and 3chamber flows.
12.55@107mph
Runs on 87 Octane and gets 24mpg!

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03-14-2001, 03:19 AM	#21
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	Yes, It has been over a year now hasn't it.. Well we will see! I'm having some doubts myself too, but anyway you look at it I did pick up some hp. So come march 24th it will all show up. Skyler ------------------ -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, 2 1/4" exhaust, and 4.10's. 332RWHP@5500 351RWTQ@3750 Runs on 87 Octane!

03-24-2001, 08:16 AM	#22
exgmguy Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Utica, Michigan Posts: 2,631	Sky, I have been gone for a while so I missed this. I had to dig it up. Congrats on those numbers. That is nutty. I would keep those TFS heads unported unless you added a power adder. I think the lower compression, relatively small cam, etc.. don't jive well when you port heads that already flow like crazy. I have been tuning fuel pressure for the last few days with the "seat of the pants" dyno and going from 40 psi to about 35 at WOT feels much better. Also my car runs fine now when cold. It used to stall if I did not give it gas. I guess we'll see some track results now! Once again, congrats!

03-25-2001, 05:31 PM	#23
Dark Knight Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Az Posts: 854	so, how'd the track go? guess you can tell why I'm not a member at the corral ;-)

03-25-2001, 11:07 PM	#24
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	12.55 ------------------ -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, headers and 3chamber flows. 12.55@107mph Runs on 87 Octane and gets 24mpg!

03-26-2001, 01:07 AM	#25
Mustanguy Guest Posts: n/a	Way to go SKY!! You've wanted 12's for the longest time and through being persistent,you got them! Ya,I saw your post over at the Corral also,talk about a bunch of crap in the way they acted towards you.. ------------------ Paxton Blown 87GT

03-26-2001, 03:20 AM	#26
Dark Knight Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Az Posts: 854	I'm running more than 16* with my AFR's.. you can run more initial timing with Alum. heads.. I was running 14, tweaked the timing to who knows where.. 19 or so... and picked up 10RWHP and 10RWTQ, with no detonation and air temp at 87*.. I would think your fuel pressure is way to low also... oh yeah, I run 89 octane gas in mine.. in the winter at least and I have a little more compression due to 58cc heads ;-) ------------------ 84 convt,'95 302,AFR's, performer 3.55's, underdrives stock shorties stock cam, 1.7's 14.06@100.21, 255RWHP on a hot day 265 on the mph/weight chart

03-27-2001, 03:22 PM	#27
Ripper Registered Member Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Danbury, CT, USA Posts: 273	Congrats Skyler. I just got finished reading the posts on the Corral, all 4 pages worth. Some of those guys are real d!ckheads. They don't believe jack unless it's smack in their face. I think they were jealous that you were probably putting out more hp than they were with less mods. ------------------ ************************ 1999 GT - Laser Red K&N, Steeda pulleys, Steeda strut tower brace & Tri-ax (Upcoming mods: subframes (bought), Bassani X (next), & FMS 3.73s

03-27-2001, 06:16 PM	#28
Fox Body Mustang Maniac Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: GA, U.S.A Posts: 2,266	Nice, Skyman. A 12.5 with those hp ratings, I'm a bit surprised. And that is a lot of torque for that motor. You got yourself a nice car. If you could answer 2 questions for me though: 1) What tires were you running (I need some of those ) 2) What gears you got out back? 3.73s, 4.10s? (or have you still not checked yet?) sigh (...someday, I'll get to post some 11 second track times...Hopefully b4 this year is over ) ------------------------------- '79 Mustang Coup 4" Cowl Weld wheels (15x6;15x8) Stock 5.8L C4 w/ shift kit 1.5" MAC full length headers Holley 750 CFM Edelbrock intake 2.5" Off road H-pipe, 2-chamber Flowmasters 8.8" Rear end w/ 3.55 gears (Now that's more like it!!) Front: 225/60/15 Rear: 255/60/15 Eagle GT II 14 x 4” K&N air filter (getting the Xtreme setup soon) "Red, thou art my companion. Hasten now your quickened metamorphosis to Green that I may conquer all who dare abide there beside me. May they be left thither behind burnt black." ---Fox Body [This message has been edited by Fox Body (edited 03-27-2001).]

03-27-2001, 09:18 PM	#29
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	I ran 26x10 Mt Et Drags with 10psi. And 225/50/16s up front. Sky ------------------ -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, headers and 3chamber flows. 12.55@107mph Runs on 87 Octane and gets 24mpg!

03-28-2001, 08:12 AM	#30
Rick 91GT Procharged! Join Date: May 1999 Location: Hanover, PA Posts: 1,539	Hey Sky Awesome times and video, I guess those struts, shocks and springs are really working for you. Looks like it's time for me to slap on my 28" x 10.5" ET DRAGS and see what it's got huh? How do your JAZ seats feel on the street driving? My completion daten will probably be aroud the 20th now the heads got pushed back, the cam should be here today! Again awesome times, proved some of those guys wrong that had to feel good. ------------------ Check Out My Site 91GT,Holley SysteMAX II Kit-Heads 2.02" x 1.60" port matched to a 1262,Anderson N-61,24#,76mm C&L,Full MAC exhaust 1-5/8" Long tubes,2-1/2" O.R H-Pipe,2 1/2" cat back, No A/C or PS or emissions, 12" K&N Filter,RNH PERFORMANCE Ram Air,Ron Davis Radiator,Full Suspension,S&W 8pt "X" brace,JAZ seats,3:73's,Welds..etc,4:30's and 31 splines coming very soon!

03-28-2001, 05:50 PM	#31
MY91GT Registered Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: University of Illinois-Urbana/Champaign Posts: 370	Congrats!! How does it feel to finally be in the 12's? Ive been reading the posts on the corral, and I just think they are jealous,....screw them! Start workin on the 11's!! ------------------ TW Heads, Edlebrock RPM, 75mm TB, 75mm MM, Anderson N-2 cam, stock block, underdrives, paxton regulator, bbk 155 intank, 30lbers, motorsport alum rad msd ignition and coil, 3.73 gear, Tremec 3550, Motorsport HD clutch, K&N, hooker shorties, pacesetter h-pipe, and dynomax cat back, mac upper and lower control arms, no front sway bar. I think that's it. GO ILLINI!!! Waiting for good weather for new times.

03-28-2001, 07:13 PM	#32
Drag4money Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: MA/RI Posts: 18	Sky, We haven't met, but I have a couple of questions hopefully you can help me with.. First my 94 302 had 307RWHP, and 335 ft lbs which was good for a 12.77@105 on 29 inch tall tires. This cements your info which is why I am asking YOU this question... I am getting about 18mpg, but I can't even think about 87 octane.. My timing is at 17, bottom end is stock and I'm running the TFS Track Heat heads with the Stage 1 cam... When you say low compression, I am wondering are you just referring to stock pistons with 61cc heads?? Thanks in advance, and great job with your ride... D4M

03-28-2001, 08:11 PM	#33
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	Yeah Im saying I have stock pistons and box stock heads. I run 16degrees initial timing and Ive never had a ping out of the motor. I dont know why... Sky ------------------ -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, headers and 3chamber flows. 12.55@107mph Runs on 87 Octane and gets 24mpg!

03-28-2001, 11:17 PM	#34
Red514LX Registered Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 119	12.55 @ 107mph = some good driving! Is that time corrected for altitude? With your dyno #s, I am very surprised you didn't hit 110mph. That said, for running box stock TFS heads, Edel. intake, and an E303, 107mph in the 1/4 means you are making GOOD power out of that relatively simple combo. When it's all said and done, I'm sure you'll pick up another 1-2mph. As for the dyno results....well, it's my opinion the numbers are too high. I truly believe that if your car made that kind of power on a mustang dyno, it would run 110mph easy. Nevertheless, that's not your fault. It's the shop's fault and you shouldn't feel bad about it. You car runs real good for the combo you have. ------------------ Jeff Kane 1990 LX Mustang ex-5.0 Coupe No engine. No transmission. Prepping car for a "big" big-block. http://hometown.aol.com/red514lx/

03-29-2001, 01:56 AM	#35
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	Drag4money... What other parts do you have on your combo. Give me a run down of everything you have. EVERYTHING. Also those heads you have are much larger than mine, and I think over kill for that cam that you have. Give me all the specs, and maybe we can figure it out. Sky ------------------ -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, headers and 3chamber flows. 12.55@107mph Runs on 87 Octane and gets 24mpg!

03-29-2001, 06:25 PM	#36
Drag4money Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: MA/RI Posts: 18	Thanks for the replies, let me clarify a few things however... My runs were on a dyno jet as far as the power goes not a mustang dyno. The ET info I gave was not adjusted, it is right off the time slip.. Here's the info,,, 94 GT 5.0 stock bottom end 74k 3.73's TFS Track Heat heads 61cc volume 170cc intake runners 66cc exhaust TFS Stage one cam 499/510 275/279 duration straight up 1.6 rollers TFS track heat upper and lower intake mac 1 5/8 shrties mac H mac 2 1/2 3 chamber cat back FMS 24lb injectors BBK 255lph intank paxton FPR FMS RPM extender 70 MM BBK T/body Pro-m 75 MM mass air underdrives 6AL/coil, stock dist. Megabyte Jr's Tires were 29/11.50 which I thought were to tall but i borrowed em....The short was 1.72 which I think a shorter tire woulda helped. D4M

03-29-2001, 11:29 PM	#37
MY91GT Registered Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: University of Illinois-Urbana/Champaign Posts: 370	Just for comparison sake.(Give you another setup to compare it to) 91 full weight GT TFS heads/ track heat intake 30#inj/75mm MM 65mm TB Anderson N-2 cam--529/544...282/288 dur underdrive pulleys 1 5/8 hooker shorties off road h-pipe/dynomax cat back T-5 Z/3.73 gear MSD ignition No powershifting 1.929 short time 12.98@107.45 mph on street tires. Just my previous setup...could have ran better if I could shift!! Hope this adds some insight. ------------------ TW Heads, Edlebrock RPM, 75mm TB, 75mm MM, Anderson N-2 cam, stock block, underdrives, paxton regulator, bbk 155 intank, 30lbers, motorsport alum rad msd ignition and coil, 3.73 gear, Tremec 3550, Motorsport HD clutch, K&N, hooker shorties, pacesetter h-pipe, and dynomax cat back, mac upper and lower control arms, no front sway bar. I think that's it. GO ILLINI!!! Waiting for good weather for new times.

04-01-2001, 06:23 AM	#38
exgmguy Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Utica, Michigan Posts: 2,631	300 at the wheels on a Dynojet is usually 270ish on a Mustang Dyno.

04-01-2001, 01:03 PM	#39
NoSlow5.0 YOU HAVE NO MARBLES!!!!!! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Jonesboro,Georgia,USA (Providence, Ri) Posts: 868	That is great sky! Looks like a pretty nice set up you have there. You think you will switch out the cam and intake later on? Light Em Up!!!

04-01-2001, 02:47 PM	#40
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	thast what Im debating right now.. Im going to post a topic on it in windsor power. Sky ------------------ -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, headers and 3chamber flows. 12.55@107mph Runs on 87 Octane and gets 24mpg!