whyd ford leave empty room??

jj_jonathon · 11-15-2002, 02:40 AM

i cant help but keep wondering everytime i look under the hood of my GT, why i have so much empty room at the front...did they just want a long car? were they making it easy for enthusiasts to add aftermarket parts like superchargers with ease? does it serve as some factor in making it easier to work on the engine? or was ford just on crack and didnt use up all my space! lol...granted the 5.7L in the camaros makes spark plug changing a 2 hour + problem (dayum theyre buried)....so is this the case? it just seems so damn empty!

Crazy Horse GT · 11-15-2002, 03:40 AM

well i dont know about that, but when i attempted to put my x pipe on , there aint no room in the rear, one of the sensors near the exh manifold's, had the wire's twisted where they screwed it in , while it was hooked up, i dread trying to get the front 2 out.

cyberstang5.0 · 11-15-2002, 08:05 AM

IMO, there isn't enough room in the newer stangs. I look at my motor and it's just enough room to work with. Then I look at the new ones and it makes my motor look like a 4 cyl, even though my motor is bigger

MEDIK418 · 11-15-2002, 10:12 AM

Next time you get to thinking there's a lot of extra room under the hood. look for a spot to mount an MSD box.

bigred90gt · 11-15-2002, 12:55 PM

I had to mount mine in the passenger side floorboard on the transmission tunnel.

The Deuce · 11-15-2002, 02:00 PM

Crumple zone. I think that is why they left the front end out there. Was there as much room in the front of the '95? Could be they didn't want to shorten the cars with the mod motor.

PKRWUD · 11-15-2002, 04:37 PM

The closer the engine is to the rear end, the better. There is less front to rear sway, and quicker throttle response.

jj_jonathon · 11-16-2002, 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PKRWUD
The closer the engine is to the rear end, the better. There is less front to rear sway, and quicker throttle response.

does that apply to rear-engine vehicles too?

and crumple room was my best guess..

PKRWUD · 11-16-2002, 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jj_jonathon
does that apply to rear-engine vehicles too?

You bet! Why do you think the fastest cars are rear engine? It adds stability, too. Try racing a bone stock VW bug (old style) on the beach, and I don't mean Daytona.

Take care,
~Chris

jj_jonathon · 11-17-2002, 02:16 PM

daytona beach? are you making fun of me? rofl....

...so why dont they build more rear engine cars? i it so when you smack headon into another car, etc. that theres at least this bunch of metal and such between you and what you hit?...wonder if there was ever a concept rearengine stang...thatd be cool...

11-17-2002, 02:28 PM

wasn't the gt-40 a rear engine car?? i know i could be way the hell off on this one.

PKRWUD · 11-17-2002, 07:46 PM

Yes, it was. So was the Pantera.

Take care,
~Chris

84LX89GT · 11-19-2002, 05:06 PM

I though rear engine was on or behind the rear axle, and mid engine was just in front of the rear axle. I thought that the Panteras and GT40's were more of a mid-engine type whereas Porsches and VW's were rear engine.

I've heard handling wise a rear engine vehicle is very prone to understeer and are easy to swing around in drift situations because of the inertia of the engine, whereas mid engine provides more balance for cornering, with the weight over rear axle advantages of a rear engine car. Although both have traction advantages over front engine, rear drive cars.

Maybe i'm just bringing up a pointless argument

PKRWUD · 11-20-2002, 04:51 PM

Yes, you are correct. I was just speaking in general, versus a front engine vehicle.

Take care,
~Chris

84LX89GT · 11-20-2002, 07:35 PM

.......ok, don't mind me chris

11-15-2002, 02:40 AM	#1
jj_jonathon Trisket Join Date: May 2002 Location: University of Florida, FL Posts: ½ Posts: 1,560	whyd ford leave empty room?? i cant help but keep wondering everytime i look under the hood of my GT, why i have so much empty room at the front...did they just want a long car? were they making it easy for enthusiasts to add aftermarket parts like superchargers with ease? does it serve as some factor in making it easier to work on the engine? or was ford just on crack and didnt use up all my space! lol...granted the 5.7L in the camaros makes spark plug changing a 2 hour + problem (dayum theyre buried)....so is this the case? it just seems so damn empty! __________________ University of Florida - Physics Major My 02GT vert Media Center Pics BBK Underdrive Pulleys \| K&N FIPK (Gen II) \| Bullet Grille \| Mach 1 Chin Spoiler \| UPR Interior Parts \| XM Radio \| Audiobahn Subs Ricer Hater's Club Member #1/2 (30) http://www.ricehatersclub.com/

11-15-2002, 03:40 AM	#2
Crazy Horse GT Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sale Creek, TN. C. S. A. Posts: 4,652	well i dont know about that, but when i attempted to put my x pipe on , there aint no room in the rear, one of the sensors near the exh manifold's, had the wire's twisted where they screwed it in , while it was hooked up, i dread trying to get the front 2 out. __________________ 95 gt vert, lot's of stuff, it aint slow. 04 sonic blue v - six my beater 89 rs camaro iroc turbo hood, other stuff, my wifes ride 84 lx stang cammed up 289 hi po, etc 65 falcon, maybe by the year 2020. black 00gt, gone but never forgotten. R H C- member # 1 o.b.c. da prez- member # 1 if your under 40 dont ask. goodbye for now odie,r.i.p. 11-27-03

11-15-2002, 10:12 AM	#4
MEDIK418 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Amarillo, Texas, USA Posts: 780	Next time you get to thinking there's a lot of extra room under the hood. look for a spot to mount an MSD box. __________________ 1986 four-eyed LX coupe, 358 Cleveland, Tremec TKO600/centerforce clutch, dish cut Probe forged pistons, comp cams hyd.roller cam, .579/.588@224/230, Edel.performer, 670 holley street avenger, CPR custom built long tubes, ported and polished 4bbl heads, manley valves, beehive springs, MSD peo-billet dist/MSD6AL, fluidamper, 5 lug conv. with 17x8 bullits there's more but it's still not finished yet. Oh, and the oldest boy is turning his 89 GT into a FFR cobra this next summer.

11-15-2002, 12:55 PM	#5
bigred90gt 2 Stangs in the Stable Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baytown, TX Posts: 1,209	I had to mount mine in the passenger side floorboard on the transmission tunnel. __________________ '90 GT Under construction Best E.T. = Fast @ High Speeds - OK So I Lie. So What!!! 04 F-150 STX 4.2L 5 spd Rice Haters Club Member #128

11-15-2002, 02:00 PM	#6
The Deuce Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,325	Crumple zone. I think that is why they left the front end out there. Was there as much room in the front of the '95? Could be they didn't want to shorten the cars with the mod motor. __________________ 1997 Mustang GT "The Freak" - 13.80 @ 101.70, 2.07 60' 1995 Honda VFR750 - not much @ really fast (actual data pending.) 1964.5 Mustang 289 Rice Haters Club Member #13

11-15-2002, 08:05 AM	#3
cyberstang5.0 347ci of HORSE POWER!!! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,416	IMO, there isn't enough room in the newer stangs. I look at my motor and it's just enough room to work with. Then I look at the new ones and it makes my motor look like a 4 cyl, even though my motor is bigger

11-15-2002, 04:37 PM	#7
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	The closer the engine is to the rear end, the better. There is less front to rear sway, and quicker throttle response. __________________ Webmaster: Rice Haters Club Jim Porter Racing Peckerwoods Pit Stop Support Your Local RED & WHITE!

11-17-2002, 02:16 PM	#10
jj_jonathon Trisket Join Date: May 2002 Location: University of Florida, FL Posts: ½ Posts: 1,560	daytona beach? are you making fun of me? rofl.......so why dont they build more rear engine cars? i it so when you smack headon into another car, etc. that theres at least this bunch of metal and such between you and what you hit?...wonder if there was ever a concept rearengine stang...thatd be cool... __________________ University of Florida - Physics Major My 02GT vert Media Center Pics BBK Underdrive Pulleys \| K&N FIPK (Gen II) \| Bullet Grille \| Mach 1 Chin Spoiler \| UPR Interior Parts \| XM Radio \| Audiobahn Subs Ricer Hater's Club Member #1/2 (30) http://www.ricehatersclub.com/

11-17-2002, 02:28 PM	#11
digital3.3 Guest Posts: n/a	wasn't the gt-40 a rear engine car?? i know i could be way the hell off on this one.

11-17-2002, 07:46 PM	#12
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	Yes, it was. So was the Pantera. Take care, ~Chris __________________ Webmaster: Rice Haters Club Jim Porter Racing Peckerwoods Pit Stop Support Your Local RED & WHITE!

11-19-2002, 05:06 PM	#13
84LX89GT Mustangs Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 1,938	I though rear engine was on or behind the rear axle, and mid engine was just in front of the rear axle. I thought that the Panteras and GT40's were more of a mid-engine type whereas Porsches and VW's were rear engine. I've heard handling wise a rear engine vehicle is very prone to understeer and are easy to swing around in drift situations because of the inertia of the engine, whereas mid engine provides more balance for cornering, with the weight over rear axle advantages of a rear engine car. Although both have traction advantages over front engine, rear drive cars. Maybe i'm just bringing up a pointless argument __________________ 2005 Suzuki Hayabusa GSX1300-R 1980 Ford Thunderbird - 255 V8 ported heads, 5.0L ported stock headers, O.R. H-pipe and Flowmaster 2-chambers, dual roller timing chain hi-po Mack Truck hood emblem 1985 Mustang GT 5.0L T5, F-303, GT40p, headers, off-road h, flowmasters, MSD stuff, etc. Sold 02/06/04 1989 Mustang GT ET: 13.304@102.29 mph (5-24-03) Sold - 1998 Mustang Cobra coupe, 1/4 mile - street tires: 13.843@103.41 (bone stock)

11-20-2002, 04:51 PM	#14
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	Yes, you are correct. I was just speaking in general, versus a front engine vehicle. Take care, ~Chris __________________ Webmaster: Rice Haters Club Jim Porter Racing Peckerwoods Pit Stop Support Your Local RED & WHITE!

11-20-2002, 07:35 PM	#15
84LX89GT Mustangs Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 1,938	.......ok, don't mind me chris __________________ 2005 Suzuki Hayabusa GSX1300-R 1980 Ford Thunderbird - 255 V8 ported heads, 5.0L ported stock headers, O.R. H-pipe and Flowmaster 2-chambers, dual roller timing chain hi-po Mack Truck hood emblem 1985 Mustang GT 5.0L T5, F-303, GT40p, headers, off-road h, flowmasters, MSD stuff, etc. Sold 02/06/04 1989 Mustang GT ET: 13.304@102.29 mph (5-24-03) Sold - 1998 Mustang Cobra coupe, 1/4 mile - street tires: 13.843@103.41 (bone stock)

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