Project car ideas.........

bigwhitecobra · 03-04-2001, 11:20 PM

Hey all! I am on the verge of starting a new project and was wanting to get a few ideas from you.
First some back ground info:

The car is a 1986 SVO comp prep
I will be swapping the 2.3 turbo for either a 302 or 351
eventually I will be restoring the car to showroom condition(only after driving for a few years)
needs a paint job, and some badges

So, let's hear what you have to say.
I have emailed Dan, and hopefully, he will let me post pics, vids and the like to keep the readers updated. Thanks!

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The Black Mamba 11.2@124
94 Cobra- MAC cold air fender kit, Motorsport underdrive pulley's, MAC 21/2" off-road H pipe, SVO mufflers, 3.73 gears, E-303 cam, 13.417@101.335mph

82 GT · 03-04-2001, 11:34 PM

I would go with a 351C They have tons of torque! If I had to do it all over again, I would have put a cleveland instead of a windsor in my '82GT

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'82 GT 351W,BBK shorties,
Comp Cam,edelbrock intake
625 cfm carter carb. c-4 tranny w/ pro stick shifter. 4 core radiator
Mallory distributor. 3:27
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StangFlyer · 03-04-2001, 11:39 PM

Yes, I did get your email. I haven't responded yet because I've been so slammed getting the new site online. Will contact you soon though.

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Dan McClain, Editor
The Mustang Works Magazine
1991 Mustang GT - NOVI Supercharged 377 Stroker
1999 Ford Lightning SVT - 2000 Prototype updated by Roush

bigwhitecobra · 03-05-2001, 12:03 AM

Thanks Dan. I just thought that since this was such a rare car, and that I was going to document this anyway, the site readers(not to mention you and your staff) might like to see this as it happens. Thanks for the concideration though, which ever way you decide.

03-05-2001, 09:15 AM

Well if you want to kept it as a 302, you can find tons of add-ons, inside engine parts, and dress ups for it. Finding parts for a 351C is hard believe I have one in my old 69 Mustang. Parts are more expensive too.

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90' 5.0 GT Convertible Mustang. 69' Mustang Mach 1 Fastback. Too much to list here so if you want to know ask me.
AOL name: Woodnutz351

Dark Knight · 03-05-2001, 09:30 AM

tweak that 4cyl... I've seen them run in the 12's.. I think one of the mags out *car craft, hotrod* had one that was running 12.7's with the 4 banger ;-)

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84 convt,'95 302,AFR's, performer
3.55's, underdrives stock shorties
stock cam, 1.7's
14.16@100.08, 255RWHP on a hot day
265 on the mph/weight chart

NoSlow5.0 · 03-05-2001, 10:38 AM

I totally agree with Dark Night!!! It's an SVO, keep it that way. Think of the looks an the ls1 guys faces when you stomp them with a 4 banger. And ricers can't complain that the reason you won by so much is because you have twice the cubes...."Hey a$$, count the plugs! That's right 4!!" Light Em Up!!

inferno · 03-05-2001, 02:17 PM

I say keep the 4 as well. Try something new for a change. If you are just going to swap the motor out, you can get an old regular 4 banger and drop the bigger motor in. If you want the looks of the SVO, you can buy the parts to make it look like one. It would be cheaper to do it that way as well.

bigwhitecobra · 03-05-2001, 06:51 PM

Nice ideas guys, my only problem with them is that eventually I want to restore it back to original condition. Comp Prep's aren't that easy to find. Although, if I was to keep everything I took off, then I could restore it.
Hmm.......it would be nice to have a 12 second 4 banger. Maybe I will do that, after all I'm going to build it the way you, the readers and users of this site, want it to.
Keep the ideas coming.

89LXCarb · 03-05-2001, 10:20 PM

I'm starting a new project as well. I've got a 4 cyl that I"m putting a tweaked turbo coupe motor in. It should be interesting when it all get's done

bigwhitecobra · 03-06-2001, 10:23 AM

I've got an idea of what to build, I'm going to stick with the 4 banger turbo. Now here's the new problem....where do I race it?
I've thought of SCCA SOLO II bracket(if that's what it's called). Also, I could enter it into some sort of bracket drag race series. Talk me guy and dolls, what do you think? Keep in mind this is going to be a daily driver(on paper anyway). Later!

blue00gt · 03-06-2001, 06:31 PM

Check out the April '01 issue of MM&FF. On p. 258 there is an article called 'The Shiny Avenger' about Tiny Avenger Motorsports' SVO. They got 291rwhp and 287ft-lbs at 18psi of boost with a stock 2.3 shortblock. These maniacs believe they can get 400 horse out of the little half-engine.

bigwhitecobra · 03-06-2001, 06:44 PM

Yeah, they stole my idea!! I've been thinking about doing this car for about 6 months now. Sucks that these guys jumped inside my head and didn't even give me a kiss on the neck for thanks! Anyway, the wife is complaining about having a headache, so I guess I'll get off for now. Damn woman. lol

Unit 5302 · 03-06-2001, 08:43 PM

Well, I've already got a project lined up. It dropped into my lap from my dad.

He's giving me a 63 Ford 427 medium riser dual quad and a Borg Warner T-10 to run with it. Gotta find an older stang to throw it into when I get a house to keep it at.

As far as a project I'd actually like to do?

Boss 302 motor, converted to EFI, with a Kenne Bell Blowzilla in an SN95. That would be so unbelievably bad *** . All that high rpm power, a block that can take it, and the low end grunt from the blower to boost the equation. I'd guess low 12's easy.

bigwhitecobra · 03-07-2001, 01:07 AM

UNIT5302...think of all the words I want to say to you right now, have you got one or two of them handy? Good, now say them out loud with me, @#$%%&#%^*#%^@$~%#%@#$%^&%^*%^(*()$^#%^@$^@$# 2@$^@$^@^%@$%
I really love those cars! Your dad just gave it to you.....$#%@^#^&!!!! and then some! What a nice dad you have, any chance he fathered a few children in NC?

Good luck with that car, take some killer pics of it and post them! PLEASE!!

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The Black Mamba 11.2@119
94 Cobra- MAC cold air fender kit, Motorsport underdrive pulley's, MAC 21/2" off-road H pipe, SVO mufflers, 3.73 gears, E-303 cam, 13.417@101.335mph

SkarodoM · 03-07-2001, 10:49 AM

Hey bigwhitecobra

where ya at in the Charlotte area? Head out to m'ville dragway any? Im bout 8miles north of UNCC in Concord.

juuuuuuuuust curious =)

Phil
Jerico Performance

bigwhitecobra · 03-07-2001, 05:05 PM

I live about 5 miles from Mooresville dragway. Lucky me. I go up there every so often, like every weekend so far this year. Wanna meet up there and swap stories, and maybe race a few times? Just for fun that is. lol

03-04-2001, 11:20 PM	#1
bigwhitecobra Huh? Whatcha said? Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 1,073	Project car ideas......... Hey all! I am on the verge of starting a new project and was wanting to get a few ideas from you. First some back ground info: The car is a 1986 SVO comp prep I will be swapping the 2.3 turbo for either a 302 or 351 eventually I will be restoring the car to showroom condition(only after driving for a few years) needs a paint job, and some badges So, let's hear what you have to say. I have emailed Dan, and hopefully, he will let me post pics, vids and the like to keep the readers updated. Thanks! ------------------ The Black Mamba 11.2@124 94 Cobra- MAC cold air fender kit, Motorsport underdrive pulley's, MAC 21/2" off-road H pipe, SVO mufflers, 3.73 gears, E-303 cam, 13.417@101.335mph

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03-04-2001, 11:34 PM	#2
82 GT Import Slayer Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 2,241	I would go with a 351C They have tons of torque! If I had to do it all over again, I would have put a cleveland instead of a windsor in my '82GT ------------------ '82 GT 351W,BBK shorties, Comp Cam,edelbrock intake 625 cfm carter carb. c-4 tranny w/ pro stick shifter. 4 core radiator Mallory distributor. 3:27 .........................

03-04-2001, 11:39 PM	#3
StangFlyer Founder Join Date: Jun 1995 Location: Michigan Posts: 19,326	Yes, I did get your email. I haven't responded yet because I've been so slammed getting the new site online. Will contact you soon though. ------------------ Dan McClain, Editor The Mustang Works Magazine 1991 Mustang GT - NOVI Supercharged 377 Stroker 1999 Ford Lightning SVT - 2000 Prototype updated by Roush

03-05-2001, 12:03 AM	#4
bigwhitecobra Huh? Whatcha said? Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 1,073	Thanks Dan. I just thought that since this was such a rare car, and that I was going to document this anyway, the site readers(not to mention you and your staff) might like to see this as it happens. Thanks for the concideration though, which ever way you decide.

03-05-2001, 09:15 AM	#5
1BadMoFo5.0 Guest Posts: n/a	Well if you want to kept it as a 302, you can find tons of add-ons, inside engine parts, and dress ups for it. Finding parts for a 351C is hard believe I have one in my old 69 Mustang. Parts are more expensive too. ------------------ 90' 5.0 GT Convertible Mustang. 69' Mustang Mach 1 Fastback. Too much to list here so if you want to know ask me. AOL name: Woodnutz351

03-05-2001, 09:30 AM	#6
Dark Knight Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Az Posts: 854	tweak that 4cyl... I've seen them run in the 12's.. I think one of the mags out car craft, hotrod had one that was running 12.7's with the 4 banger ;-) ------------------ 84 convt,'95 302,AFR's, performer 3.55's, underdrives stock shorties stock cam, 1.7's 14.16@100.08, 255RWHP on a hot day 265 on the mph/weight chart

03-05-2001, 10:38 AM	#7
NoSlow5.0 YOU HAVE NO MARBLES!!!!!! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Jonesboro,Georgia,USA (Providence, Ri) Posts: 868	I totally agree with Dark Night!!! It's an SVO, keep it that way. Think of the looks an the ls1 guys faces when you stomp them with a 4 banger. And ricers can't complain that the reason you won by so much is because you have twice the cubes...."Hey a$$, count the plugs! That's right 4!!" Light Em Up!!

03-05-2001, 02:17 PM	#8
inferno The Instigator Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: So Cal and Houston Posts: 764	I say keep the 4 as well. Try something new for a change. If you are just going to swap the motor out, you can get an old regular 4 banger and drop the bigger motor in. If you want the looks of the SVO, you can buy the parts to make it look like one. It would be cheaper to do it that way as well.

03-05-2001, 06:51 PM	#9
bigwhitecobra Huh? Whatcha said? Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 1,073	Nice ideas guys, my only problem with them is that eventually I want to restore it back to original condition. Comp Prep's aren't that easy to find. Although, if I was to keep everything I took off, then I could restore it. Hmm.......it would be nice to have a 12 second 4 banger. Maybe I will do that, after all I'm going to build it the way you, the readers and users of this site, want it to. Keep the ideas coming.

03-05-2001, 10:20 PM	#10
89LXCarb Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Columbus Grove, Ohio, USA Posts: 267	I'm starting a new project as well. I've got a 4 cyl that I"m putting a tweaked turbo coupe motor in. It should be interesting when it all get's done

03-06-2001, 10:23 AM	#11
bigwhitecobra Huh? Whatcha said? Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 1,073	I've got an idea of what to build, I'm going to stick with the 4 banger turbo. Now here's the new problem....where do I race it? I've thought of SCCA SOLO II bracket(if that's what it's called). Also, I could enter it into some sort of bracket drag race series. Talk me guy and dolls, what do you think? Keep in mind this is going to be a daily driver(on paper anyway). Later!

03-06-2001, 06:31 PM	#12
blue00gt Mustang Addict Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: McKinney, TX Posts: 1,294	Check out the April '01 issue of MM&FF. On p. 258 there is an article called 'The Shiny Avenger' about Tiny Avenger Motorsports' SVO. They got 291rwhp and 287ft-lbs at 18psi of boost with a stock 2.3 shortblock. These maniacs believe they can get 400 horse out of the little half-engine.

03-06-2001, 06:44 PM	#13
bigwhitecobra Huh? Whatcha said? Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 1,073	Yeah, they stole my idea!! I've been thinking about doing this car for about 6 months now. Sucks that these guys jumped inside my head and didn't even give me a kiss on the neck for thanks! Anyway, the wife is complaining about having a headache, so I guess I'll get off for now. Damn woman. lol

03-06-2001, 08:43 PM	#14
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	Well, I've already got a project lined up. It dropped into my lap from my dad. He's giving me a 63 Ford 427 medium riser dual quad and a Borg Warner T-10 to run with it. Gotta find an older stang to throw it into when I get a house to keep it at. As far as a project I'd actually like to do? Boss 302 motor, converted to EFI, with a Kenne Bell Blowzilla in an SN95. That would be so unbelievably bad *** . All that high rpm power, a block that can take it, and the low end grunt from the blower to boost the equation. I'd guess low 12's easy.

03-07-2001, 01:07 AM	#15
bigwhitecobra Huh? Whatcha said? Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 1,073	UNIT5302...think of all the words I want to say to you right now, have you got one or two of them handy? Good, now say them out loud with me, @#$%%&#%^#%^@$~%#%@#$%^&%^%^(*()$^#%^@$^@$# 2@$^@$^@^%@$% I really love those cars! Your dad just gave it to you.....$#%@^#^&!!!! and then some! What a nice dad you have, any chance he fathered a few children in NC? Good luck with that car, take some killer pics of it and post them! PLEASE!! ------------------ The Black Mamba 11.2@119 94 Cobra- MAC cold air fender kit, Motorsport underdrive pulley's, MAC 21/2" off-road H pipe, SVO mufflers, 3.73 gears, E-303 cam, 13.417@101.335mph

03-07-2001, 10:49 AM	#16
SkarodoM Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 199	Hey bigwhitecobra where ya at in the Charlotte area? Head out to m'ville dragway any? Im bout 8miles north of UNCC in Concord. juuuuuuuuust curious =) Phil Jerico Performance

03-07-2001, 05:05 PM	#17
bigwhitecobra Huh? Whatcha said? Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 1,073	I live about 5 miles from Mooresville dragway. Lucky me. I go up there every so often, like every weekend so far this year. Wanna meet up there and swap stories, and maybe race a few times? Just for fun that is. lol