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Mopar1 · 06-02-2002, 07:57 AM

I went to the LS1 site after seeing someone refer to it here. I spent a couple of hours reading threads. I would have to come to the conclusion , of well, they're kind of clueless. A majority of them anyway. I have no doubt that that LS1 is fast. Given the fact that I think they have a 350 ci engine. The mustang gives up
48 cubic inches to it. All things being equal, I would say put a 351W in the stang to even the motor gap. It would be a different ball game. The horsepower to weight ratio alone would be a major factor.

The '91 LX I bought 2 mos ago is an impressive little car. This coming from someone who has pure mopar running through his veins. I dont know what it all has in it, but seems to have all that the guy says it does. Besides the black interior was excellent. In all, it has got my little gears turning again.

I'm getting the itch for a street thumping mopar again. Something to suck those LS1's through the intake and **** them out the tailpipe. Maybe when I get back to Washington I'll go on the hunt for a challenger and drop a little 440 action in it and go LS1 hunting. I do believe the LX can do it, but to me nothing beats the earthshaking, firebreathing, ripsnorting power of a big block mopar.

Cheers to all the mustang guys and gals

Crazy Horse GT · 06-02-2002, 08:21 AM

your too far away but i know where a 66 belvedere is with a slightly modded 360 someone busted his windsheild, but its a straight body, 2500 bucks, i think its auto . cya

Eric4Nitrous · 06-02-2002, 08:22 AM

Man, I hear ya..nothing like the feel and sound of a big block!! My dad has big block running through his veins.lol He has a 67 Chevelle with a 515ci that runs 5.80's @ 120mph in the 1/8th!! That is on all MOTOR!!! He has ate plenty of LS1's!!. But I love my mustangs. I wouldn't sell mine for anything!! Even though it looks like a burnt piece of chicken now lol. But i'll get it fixed.

Eric

Crazy Horse GT · 06-02-2002, 08:39 AM

radical what did you do to my gt, what happened? ok man bring it back to me now, heheheh

Mopar1 · 06-02-2002, 08:44 AM

The belvedre bodies are nice GT. I guess I'm biased or something against nitros and superchargers. I believe if you cant do it with the motor you got. Get bigger one. Thought about dropping a 351W in the LX, but I want to be able to hope in the thing and go acroos counrty. So I'll keep the 302 in it.

Mopar Performance is coming out with some exciting stuff. When it comes to mopars it's a complusive disorder for me. lol

Eric4Nitrous · 06-02-2002, 08:51 AM

Crazyhorse, I had a bad nitrous backfire at the track. It pretty much burnt the whole front of the car, and hurt my motor pretty bad. So, I sent it back to Billy, and it should be done in two weeks!! With a little more nitrous, and more HP!! hehe Billy told me when he gets done with it, i'm gonna be spraying enough nitrous to spray everybody's car in a parking lot.lol We'll see i guess.

Eric

Crazy Horse GT · 06-02-2002, 08:59 AM

eric that sucks man, sorry to hear it, when billie g gets done with it just bring it back to me & i forgive you ,heheheh.

, hey can you get me his autograph, & maybe bob's too? i would apreciate it, see ya good luck with our car.

Eric4Nitrous · 06-02-2002, 09:59 AM

Sure I could probably get you some autographs..Billy's really a nice guy to talk to and get along with.

Unit 5302 · 06-02-2002, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mopar1
The belvedre bodies are nice GT. I guess I'm biased or something against nitros and superchargers. I believe if you cant do it with the motor you got. Get bigger one. Thought about dropping a 351W in the LX, but I want to be able to hope in the thing and go acroos counrty. So I'll keep the 302 in it.

Mopar Performance is coming out with some exciting stuff. When it comes to mopars it's a complusive disorder for me. lol

The 351 is just a stroker 302 from the factory. Different deck height, beefier bottom end. Otherwise, they are much the same engine. Quite frankly, you could just do a couple mods to the 302 to make a bunch more power all motor.

I don't personally see a good reason to do a 351W swap unless you're looking to put down between 500-600hp. Otherwise you could get a stronger 302 block, or stay with the stock 302 block. The difference in power output between the 351 and 302 might equate to 40hp on an equally modded setup, 20hp on a stock setup. Not worth the extra hassle to me.

Mopar1 · 06-02-2002, 04:12 PM

Thats a good thing to know thank ya sir. Guess i was equating as a 318 and 360 comparison, which there's a big diff between the two

06-02-2002, 04:22 PM

i want the new test 4.6

from a FR 500 review

Because performance freaks focus their attention more on the "go" than on the "show" aspect of a car, the FR500's real beauty is underhood. There you'll find a Cobra 4.6-liter 4V all-aluminum block whose displacement has been increased to 5.0 liters by the use of new "spray bore" technology.

On engines like the 4.6 that cannot be bored out because of the limited casting thickness of the cylinder walls, displacement is increased by removing the steel cylinder sleeves from the cast aluminum block and spraying the bores with a ceramic-like coating that serves as hardened cylinder walls. While Ford has yet to employ this new technology in production, its use could help squeeze more power from engines without retooling them.

New, high-flow four-valve heads with more radical cam geometry are added, along with an all-new variable geometry magnesium intake manifold, dual 80mm mass-air sensors, dual 70mm throttle bodies, and stainless-steel tubular headers. This massaged Cobra engine makes a reported 415 horsepower at 6,800 rpm (redline is 7,000 revs), and 365 foot-pounds of torque at 4200 rpm. But wait—there's more.

Crazy Horse GT · 06-02-2002, 04:22 PM

hey eric get me the autographs & i might let you keep the gt a little while longer, heheh, jk really though pm me i will send my addy & let me know how much postage etc is, it would be cool on a pic by OUR car ,hahaha

see ya man.

Crazy Horse GT · 06-02-2002, 07:52 PM

who is building these new 4.6 monsters? let me know , so i can plan my bank robbery, heheh.

06-02-2002, 07:57 AM	#1
Mopar1 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Lakewood, Wa Posts: 161	LS1.com I went to the LS1 site after seeing someone refer to it here. I spent a couple of hours reading threads. I would have to come to the conclusion , of well, they're kind of clueless. A majority of them anyway. I have no doubt that that LS1 is fast. Given the fact that I think they have a 350 ci engine. The mustang gives up 48 cubic inches to it. All things being equal, I would say put a 351W in the stang to even the motor gap. It would be a different ball game. The horsepower to weight ratio alone would be a major factor. The '91 LX I bought 2 mos ago is an impressive little car. This coming from someone who has pure mopar running through his veins. I dont know what it all has in it, but seems to have all that the guy says it does. Besides the black interior was excellent. In all, it has got my little gears turning again. I'm getting the itch for a street thumping mopar again. Something to suck those LS1's through the intake and **** them out the tailpipe. Maybe when I get back to Washington I'll go on the hunt for a challenger and drop a little 440 action in it and go LS1 hunting. I do believe the LX can do it, but to me nothing beats the earthshaking, firebreathing, ripsnorting power of a big block mopar. Cheers to all the mustang guys and gals __________________ '77 Aspen R/T: 318 w/273 heads, 4spd, Hurst Shifter, 600 holley, edelbrock intake, 8 3/4 axle, 3.23 sure-grip, dual 3" exhaust, MP cam 276 / 276 duration 490 / 490 mech solid lifter, Super Stock Springs (15.65@88 3900lbs) '91 Mustang LX: .030 Bored, Typhoon Intake, 4.10's, Lentech VB, BBK 70mm TB, FMS A/C elim bracket, 19lbs inject, off road H-pipe, 75mm pro-m MAF, FRP unequal shorty, stormin normin hood. 3420 Lbs w/ 220 (me) and 13 gal gas. '02 SS Camaro

06-02-2002, 08:21 AM	#2
Crazy Horse GT Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sale Creek, TN. C. S. A. Posts: 4,652	your too far away but i know where a 66 belvedere is with a slightly modded 360 someone busted his windsheild, but its a straight body, 2500 bucks, i think its auto . cya __________________ 95 gt vert, lot's of stuff, it aint slow. 04 sonic blue v - six my beater 89 rs camaro iroc turbo hood, other stuff, my wifes ride 84 lx stang cammed up 289 hi po, etc 65 falcon, maybe by the year 2020. black 00gt, gone but never forgotten. R H C- member # 1 o.b.c. da prez- member # 1 if your under 40 dont ask. goodbye for now odie,r.i.p. 11-27-03

06-02-2002, 08:22 AM	#3
Eric4Nitrous Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Va Posts: 1,122	Man, I hear ya..nothing like the feel and sound of a big block!! My dad has big block running through his veins.lol He has a 67 Chevelle with a 515ci that runs 5.80's @ 120mph in the 1/8th!! That is on all MOTOR!!! He has ate plenty of LS1's!!. But I love my mustangs. I wouldn't sell mine for anything!! Even though it looks like a burnt piece of chicken now lol. But i'll get it fixed. Eric __________________ 68 Camaro Gene Fulton 632ci Two stages of Jug 8.41 164mph Rockingham 1-26-03

06-02-2002, 08:39 AM	#4
Crazy Horse GT Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sale Creek, TN. C. S. A. Posts: 4,652	radical what did you do to my gt, what happened? ok man bring it back to me now, heheheh __________________ 95 gt vert, lot's of stuff, it aint slow. 04 sonic blue v - six my beater 89 rs camaro iroc turbo hood, other stuff, my wifes ride 84 lx stang cammed up 289 hi po, etc 65 falcon, maybe by the year 2020. black 00gt, gone but never forgotten. R H C- member # 1 o.b.c. da prez- member # 1 if your under 40 dont ask. goodbye for now odie,r.i.p. 11-27-03

06-02-2002, 08:44 AM	#5
Mopar1 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Lakewood, Wa Posts: 161	The belvedre bodies are nice GT. I guess I'm biased or something against nitros and superchargers. I believe if you cant do it with the motor you got. Get bigger one. Thought about dropping a 351W in the LX, but I want to be able to hope in the thing and go acroos counrty. So I'll keep the 302 in it. Mopar Performance is coming out with some exciting stuff. When it comes to mopars it's a complusive disorder for me. lol __________________ '77 Aspen R/T: 318 w/273 heads, 4spd, Hurst Shifter, 600 holley, edelbrock intake, 8 3/4 axle, 3.23 sure-grip, dual 3" exhaust, MP cam 276 / 276 duration 490 / 490 mech solid lifter, Super Stock Springs (15.65@88 3900lbs) '91 Mustang LX: .030 Bored, Typhoon Intake, 4.10's, Lentech VB, BBK 70mm TB, FMS A/C elim bracket, 19lbs inject, off road H-pipe, 75mm pro-m MAF, FRP unequal shorty, stormin normin hood. 3420 Lbs w/ 220 (me) and 13 gal gas. '02 SS Camaro

06-02-2002, 08:51 AM	#6
Eric4Nitrous Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Va Posts: 1,122	Crazyhorse, I had a bad nitrous backfire at the track. It pretty much burnt the whole front of the car, and hurt my motor pretty bad. So, I sent it back to Billy, and it should be done in two weeks!! With a little more nitrous, and more HP!! hehe Billy told me when he gets done with it, i'm gonna be spraying enough nitrous to spray everybody's car in a parking lot.lol We'll see i guess. Eric __________________ 68 Camaro Gene Fulton 632ci Two stages of Jug 8.41 164mph Rockingham 1-26-03

06-02-2002, 08:59 AM	#7
Crazy Horse GT Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sale Creek, TN. C. S. A. Posts: 4,652	eric that sucks man, sorry to hear it, when billie g gets done with it just bring it back to me & i forgive you ,heheheh. , hey can you get me his autograph, & maybe bob's too? i would apreciate it, see ya good luck with our car. __________________ 95 gt vert, lot's of stuff, it aint slow. 04 sonic blue v - six my beater 89 rs camaro iroc turbo hood, other stuff, my wifes ride 84 lx stang cammed up 289 hi po, etc 65 falcon, maybe by the year 2020. black 00gt, gone but never forgotten. R H C- member # 1 o.b.c. da prez- member # 1 if your under 40 dont ask. goodbye for now odie,r.i.p. 11-27-03

06-02-2002, 09:59 AM	#8
Eric4Nitrous Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Va Posts: 1,122	Sure I could probably get you some autographs..Billy's really a nice guy to talk to and get along with. __________________ 68 Camaro Gene Fulton 632ci Two stages of Jug 8.41 164mph Rockingham 1-26-03

06-02-2002, 04:12 PM	#10
Mopar1 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Lakewood, Wa Posts: 161	Thats a good thing to know thank ya sir. Guess i was equating as a 318 and 360 comparison, which there's a big diff between the two __________________ '77 Aspen R/T: 318 w/273 heads, 4spd, Hurst Shifter, 600 holley, edelbrock intake, 8 3/4 axle, 3.23 sure-grip, dual 3" exhaust, MP cam 276 / 276 duration 490 / 490 mech solid lifter, Super Stock Springs (15.65@88 3900lbs) '91 Mustang LX: .030 Bored, Typhoon Intake, 4.10's, Lentech VB, BBK 70mm TB, FMS A/C elim bracket, 19lbs inject, off road H-pipe, 75mm pro-m MAF, FRP unequal shorty, stormin normin hood. 3420 Lbs w/ 220 (me) and 13 gal gas. '02 SS Camaro

06-02-2002, 04:22 PM	#11
digital3.3 Guest Posts: n/a	i want the new test 4.6 from a FR 500 review Because performance freaks focus their attention more on the "go" than on the "show" aspect of a car, the FR500's real beauty is underhood. There you'll find a Cobra 4.6-liter 4V all-aluminum block whose displacement has been increased to 5.0 liters by the use of new "spray bore" technology. On engines like the 4.6 that cannot be bored out because of the limited casting thickness of the cylinder walls, displacement is increased by removing the steel cylinder sleeves from the cast aluminum block and spraying the bores with a ceramic-like coating that serves as hardened cylinder walls. While Ford has yet to employ this new technology in production, its use could help squeeze more power from engines without retooling them. New, high-flow four-valve heads with more radical cam geometry are added, along with an all-new variable geometry magnesium intake manifold, dual 80mm mass-air sensors, dual 70mm throttle bodies, and stainless-steel tubular headers. This massaged Cobra engine makes a reported 415 horsepower at 6,800 rpm (redline is 7,000 revs), and 365 foot-pounds of torque at 4200 rpm. But wait—there's more.

06-02-2002, 07:52 PM	#13
Crazy Horse GT Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sale Creek, TN. C. S. A. Posts: 4,652	who is building these new 4.6 monsters? let me know , so i can plan my bank robbery, heheh. __________________ 95 gt vert, lot's of stuff, it aint slow. 04 sonic blue v - six my beater 89 rs camaro iroc turbo hood, other stuff, my wifes ride 84 lx stang cammed up 289 hi po, etc 65 falcon, maybe by the year 2020. black 00gt, gone but never forgotten. R H C- member # 1 o.b.c. da prez- member # 1 if your under 40 dont ask. goodbye for now odie,r.i.p. 11-27-03

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