Going overboard building my new PC?

[StangFlyer]

Originally posted by ed1371
Very sweet! So sweet in fact that I would be happy, no HONERED to frag ya in Spearhead or BF1942 regardless of how cool it looks

Huh? I'm still stuck back in the Counter-Strike days... HA HA HA Actually, no I do have Battle Field 1942 though...

Originally posted by Rice Hunter
I think my friend built something like that a little while ago...yeah...I think it came to life and secretly switched places with him. What became of him no one knows... but his girlfriend didn't seem to mind Be careful!

Ahhh, most likely he was hypnotized by the pretty blue lights and lulled into submission.

[StangFlyer]

Whoo hoo! Parts are starting to arrive:



You can view pictures as I add them to my PC project album in my Media Center gallery too. I've already posted photos of some of the parts.

[Rebel79]

Dan,

All I can say is, CAN I HAVE ONE?

I'll e-mail you my home address... you can ship it there.

[StangFlyer]

Originally posted by Rebel79
All I can say is, CAN I HAVE ONE? I'll e-mail you my home address... you can ship it there.

Da! I already have your home address. It's on the way! Bwahahaha.

[mustangman65_79]

Originally posted by Dan McClain
Da! I already have your home address. It's on the way! Bwahahaha.

Thats funny, yours address and dans must be the same place, for thats where all the parts are going

[MidNiteBlu 5.0]

screw the liquid cooling you should liquid nitrogen cooling.

Yes they actually have this and it keeps the CPU at -35 C!!! Its like 600 bucks though. I cant remember the real name of it, my friend showeed it to me. Crazy

[Rebel79]

Originally posted by Dan McClain
Da! I already have your home address. It's on the way! Bwahahaha.

So that explains all the gay porn magazines I've been getting with your name on it.

[StangFlyer]

Originally posted by MidNiteBlu 5.0
screw the liquid cooling you should liquid nitrogen cooling.
Yes they actually have this and it keeps the CPU at -35 C!!! Its like 600 bucks though. I cant remember the real name of it, my friend showeed it to me. Crazy

It's called the Prometeia nitrogen cooling system. You can read a review of it here. It's very expensive at around $780 US.

[StangFlyer]

Originally posted by Rebel79
So that explains all the gay porn magazines I've been getting with your name on it.

Oh, reaaaal funny! Well, what I actually meant was that I already have your address in California. Guess those mags actually have your name on them after all.

[joe4speed]

Wow!!!

LOL I remember I was the fastest kid on the block with my pent III 750mhz with 512 megs ram....

those were the days!!!

Sounds awesome Dan! I couldn't even imagine!

[lx5091]

That is one badass MB! Very colorful too....Gigabyte boards are always so colorful! Anyway, does someone you know have a similar setup? Why have you determined before you even put it together how much you will overclock it? Kinda strange, given the hardware you listed I don't doubt it could be done, I'm currently running my P IV 2.0GHZ at 2.66GHZ without the need for additional cooling hardware....I'm just not sure why you'd make a definate assumption. Maybe you know something about overclocking that I don't, that's all.

Again it seems like I'm bashing you.....I really don't mean it, as a matter of fact I answered the question I asked earlier......I couldn't find a motherboard that supported all the things yours has, that also utilized RDRAM, which sucks. I guess you have to decide on what you want to trade! That is one cool MB with the dual BIOS and IDE Raid controller!

[StangFlyer]

Originally posted by lx5091
Why have you determined before you even put it together how much you will overclock it?

I couldn't find a motherboard that supported all the things yours has, that also utilized RDRAM, which ucks.

Well, I have done a lot of reading on the forums on Overclockers.com and I also discussed the set-up with the guys at FrozenCPU.com. The P4 Northwood is only safe to run a VCORE voltage of 1.75V. Any more and it will start to suffer gate deterioration and fail. With that VCORE you can get the 3.06 Ghz processor to go at least 3.58 Ghz. The liquid cooling system will keep the temps low enough to keep it dying from heat too.

The motherboard I have has dual channel DDR400 memory support. Ultra low latency DDR400 dual channel memory is faster than RD1066 memory now... This board has the best of everything.

[StangFlyer]

WOW. UPS had to come twice today...

Got the Koolance case and liquid cooling system today, the keyboard, and all the drives. Here's an updated parts photo.



I put up more shots in my Media Center Gallery too.

[lx5091]

who can resist a friendly argument?

PC3200 DDR400 memory works at 200MHZ*2=400MHZ
it has a bandwidth of 3.2GB per second.

PC1066 RDRAM memory works at 533MHZ*2=1066MHZ
it has a bandwidth of 4.2GB per second.

I fail to see how DDR400 is faster, I understand that the lower the latency, the better that particular grade will perform(ex. DDR400 @ 2.5 CAS Latency will not perform as well as DDR400 @ 2 CAS latency), but it simply does not compare to 1066MHZ RDRAM.

Another point someone might argue is that the RDRAM would be a better match to YOUR PARTICULAR CPU, Dan, because your CPU bus runs at 533MHZ(given you use a board that supports 533MHZ FSB) which is a multiple of 1066MHZ all components will be "IN SYNC" with the system clock and that is a major benefit.

.......as far as I understand it, anyway

[StangFlyer]

Originally posted by lx5091
who can resist a friendly argument?

PC3200 DDR400 memory works at 200MHZ*2=400MHZ
it has a bandwidth of 3.2GB per second.

PC1066 RDRAM memory works at 533MHZ*2=1066MHZ
it has a bandwidth of 4.2GB per second.

No, the new DDR400 will eat RD1066. Here's why...

With the brand new dual channel DDR technology each DIMM has it's own independent memory controller. As such, it allows for double the bandwidth if used in conjunction with two matching modules. With single channel DDR400 you only have 3.2GB of memory bandwidth; however, with dual channel DDR, using two matched XMS modules of DDR400 you would get 6.4GB of memory bandwidth. That's what this system I am building will have, which is 2.2GB more than RD1066.

[Rice Hunter]

I realize this is a Mustang forum, but hell, I feel so comfortable asking you guys questions, and you seem to know so much about computers...

I bought an ATI 64mb vid card and tried installing it into my computer. I loaded the software on my computer and installed the card, but something went wrong. Here are a few notable issues...
1. I had monster 3D fx card in before (tried to salvage it from another older computer), and I tried to uninstall it. BUT! when I open my "display" from control panel, a pop up says "cannot find monster 3D fx card".

2. I read that I needed to download something from a website to get this ATI card to work with my systemax, which is a gigahertz computer so its relatively new... have you guys encountered that? Why would they sell something which you need to get online to get peices for???

3. The computer with the ATI card (couldn't get online at home to download s--t) in was choppy and simply stopped sending signal to the monitor (either through the vid card hook up or the original monitor hook up). I took the card out and the computer works fine..

FOR THE LOVE A GOD PLEASE HELP ME!

[lx5091]

Originally posted by Dan McClain
No, the new DDR400 will eat RD1066. Here's why...

With the brand new dual channel DDR technology each DIMM has it's own independent memory controller. As such, it allows for double the bandwidth if used in conjunction with two matching modules. With single channel DDR400 you only have 3.2GB of memory bandwidth; however, with dual channel DDR, using two matched XMS modules of DDR400 you would get 6.4GB of memory bandwidth. That's what this system I am building will have, which is 2.2GB more than RD1066.

lx5091 scrolls to top of thread.....

Originally posted by Dan McClain
The motherboard I have has dual channel DDR400 memory support. Ultra low latency DDR400 dual channel memory is faster than RD1066 memory now... This board has the best of everything.

you said DUAL CHANNEL, didn't you.....more than once.....hehe.....um....I'll just shut up now...hehe

[lx5091]

Assuming that this card will perform well with your system, here's what you would do. Get the model # off the card you want to install...you said it's an ATI card so go to:

http://mirror.ati.com/support/driver.html

Fill in the appropriate information and you should be directed to a download page for the correct driver for your system. Download it to your desktop and then turn off the computer and install the video card.

When your reboot, hold down the [F5] key, this will allow you to boot into safe mode and you can open the driver program you downloaded from your desktop and it should install the correct driver. Restart your system and everything should be good.....if not, repost or PM me with actual details and I'm positive it'll get resolved for you.

[Rice Hunter]

Originally posted by lx5091
Assuming that this card will perform well with your system, here's what you would do. Get the model # off the card you want to install...you said it's an ATI card so go to:

http://mirror.ati.com/support/driver.html

Fill in the appropriate information and you should be directed to a download page for the correct driver for your system. Download it to your desktop and then turn off the computer and install the video card.

When your reboot, hold down the [F5] key, this will allow you to boot into safe mode and you can open the driver program you downloaded from your desktop and it should install the correct driver. Restart your system and everything should be good.....if not, repost or PM me with actual details and I'm positive it'll get resolved for you.

THANKS! I'll give this a try after work this evening. I'll be downloading from a 56k but I'm determined! I'll hopefully be able to let you know either way tomorrow. Thanks again!

[mustangman65_79]

Hey Dan, if u have the time, could u do me a favor? I was wondering what could be built for a low buget of say, $1000-$1500? I'm mostly a gaming and internet user, and I like to make web sites sometimes. So what I am asking is, if u could, not build, but design a comp for me withen this buget. If I do this right while I'm over here, plus my tax return, and the money that is owed to me, I might have enough left over for a comp.