Do you think SVT will strike gold with the new supercharged, 390HP 2003 Mustang Cobra - Page 2

Old Guy with 87 GT · 01-30-2002, 07:32 PM

i think it will be a hit ......it'll bring alot more respect for the mustang and open the door for a larger market

i alway's liked the mustangs becouse i know what thare potentiall is , but i think alot of sports car enthusiasts compare cars by the way they are out of the box......alot of peaple want a car they don't have to mod to get the performance.........i like to fix things up so i can look at a cars potential and that effects my judgment of what cars i like .........but i think there's a large group that don't want the hassel of modifieing it....., that want a fast car with a warrenty ,.........and want to get the porformance in the same auto loan........ i think it'll open the door to these types of peaple ........

on that note ....you know how many times i've heard peaple on this board say ,i can't wait till the warrinty runs out so i can mod it......with a factory stock car ,you wouldn't have to wait .......you could drive it home and toast a ram air gm on the way.....and take it back if you breake it doing so

another reason i think it will be a hit is instant collectors item........as history tells us any time ford comes out with a faster or special version of the mustang ,it usually becomes a collectors favorite ........and holds it value .......in comparing it to a n/a cobra with aftermarket mods ........you can get the same performance numbers for less money with the n/a cobra but the moded car won't hold it's value near as much.........

another reason i think it'll be a hit is it'll be one of the few cars available that runs those numbers and has the versitility of the mustang .......most cars with those numbers ,have no trunk space ,no passenger room,no leg or head room,no visability and take a rocket scientist to fix them..........i know that a cars versitility has as much apeal to me as the cars performance......i like a fast car thats usefull as well........i bet i'm not the only one

all in all ,i think the deciding factors will be price ,warrinty ,and dependibility .....they will sell but i think if it's priced reasonable ,has a warrinty, and doesn't have any dependibility issues ,then the'll sell alot of em

91GTturbo · 01-30-2002, 07:34 PM

I could not get the link above to open, but here are some of what MT had listed.

Compression 8.5:1

Aluminum Heads

Iron Block

Intercooled w/8 lbs of boost

Base Price $34,995

Price as tested $36,500 (and it was a vert, so as I said early a coupe should be around $32K)

Also Ford expected trap speeds in the 1/4 of at least 110 mph.

Old Guy with 87 GT · 01-30-2002, 07:39 PM

no offence intended with the ram air comment gonzo 99......you posted when i was writing my post

Mercury · 01-30-2002, 11:00 PM

Dark 5.0

It is considered a 2 door sedan, so in essence, yes it is a family car. At least according to insurance, and other such guidelines.

Just because it is expensive doesnt mean its to be compared to the Corvette. Thats to say if it is the price you think it is, which it may not be.

Some one mentioned the Z06 Vette, which is no where near 40,000 dollars.They go for more like 75,000 dollars.

I myself would also prefer to buy a GT and just modify it, or a used Cobra and do the same, but dont forget, we are not the normal consumer. The normal consumer just wants to hop in and go. They dont want to have to worry about all the details and pains that can arrise out of modifying the car. They also want a warranty.They want road side assistance, and all the other perks, right down to the complimentary cup of coffie while you fill out your paperwork.

I do think it will be a success, in many ways.

Dark_5.0 · 01-31-2002, 08:51 AM

I think probably half the cobras sold are sold in Texas cause I see them everywhere, So I am sure Ill get to see one at the track sooner or later.

Red514LX · 01-31-2002, 10:18 PM

390 hp off the showroom floor from a cobra.......never thought I'd see the day

1BAD89 · 01-31-2002, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Some one mentioned the Z06 Vette, which is no where near 40,000 dollars.They go for more like 75,000 dollars.

No offense but your like the third person on here that has said that. Dealers around here are selling them at $49,000 brand new, which is far from $75,000, that is $26,000 different. I don't think that it will own the vette at all in performance , the new C6 should easily hold it's ground, even with it in N/A form vs. a S/C'er. I heard that they are only going to make 1,000 "Cobra Special's", so $40,000+, I think even maybe $50,000, I just don't see them running 8-9#'s of boost on it either. It'll be cool but for $40,000+ I mean come on? That is alot of money for 390hp?, and especially it being low productions numbers...Hopefully it'll run some low-mid 12's. For $40,000+ I think you would be expecting that. I'm pretty excited to see what it does, bet you won't see too many at the track though.

MTU 50 · 02-01-2002, 01:34 PM

Yeah, I don't know where the $75,000 for a ZO6 figure came from, but that is way too high. $50,000 is a lot closer to the Z06's actual price, at least as far as I've seen.

I don't think the new Cobra will cost $40,000 though. Hopefully the Motor Trend article is correct and a vert goes for $36,xxx or so and a coupe would be in the $32-34,xxx range. Don't get me wrong, that is still a lot of money and more than I will be able to afford, but there are a lot of people that can afford that and maybe not the extra $13-18,xxx large that a Z06 commands.

Comparing the Cobra to a Z06 really is like comparing apples to oranges. Sure it will kick *** if the Cobra can post 1/4 mile times close to the Z06 or even better, but they really are different machines. I'm also sure the Cobra can hold its own on a road course, but you have to remember this new Cobra will have more weight in the front due to the iron block. Again a Z06 will beat it, but it better for the extra $green$ it costs.

Time will tell how everything pans out.

One thing is for sure. It makes me happy to see new, more powerful, RWD American Muscle/Sports Cars coming out that will kick the crap out of most imports!!!!

302 LX Eric · 02-01-2002, 01:49 PM

If you can really get your hands on one for around $32K (Coupe), then I think it will definately be a hit - at least with me. Now, if they start labling these cars as "Cobra-Specials" or whatever and tack on another $5-7K for lack of availablity, then it will start to lose appeal.

I really hope that the HP numbers are for real. First we had the "cobra fix" issue, then the Bullit's came in under par - I do not want to see this happen again. If the numbers are solid, it would be easy to gain extra HP with a pulley swap and some tuning - should be well over 400 at the crank.

I should say though, that I am somewhat disappointed that Ford had to supercharge the motor in order to get more power. I would have rather seen the 5.4L (331) truck motor tweaked and tuned to run in the Cobra. With the right cams and heads, they could have had a 350 HP motor - with more torque than the 281 to boot!

On the other hand, I will be discussing the issue with my wife tonight. A 2003 Cobra with damn near 400 horses under the hood in my garage would look sweet next to my 91 LX Coupe. Now, I've just got to convince my wife that her 2001 Taurus SEL has got to sit outside of the garage.

If they have them in that new "mineral gray metallic" color, then I think I'll be placing my order as soon as I can.

This Cobra has me excited!!!

E

Crazy Horse GT · 02-01-2002, 01:56 PM

why should the stang have to compete with a sport's car anyway, sports car's remimind me of guy's named biff with their sweater sleeve's tied around their neck ,just not tight enough

, i respect the camaro & t.a. more than the delorean wanna be vette,hey MTU50 how about them wing's , the stanley is our's no doubt whooo

MTU 50 · 02-01-2002, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by crazy horse gt
why should the stang have to compete with a sport's car anyway, sports car's remimind me of guy's named biff with their sweater sleeve's tied around their neck ,just not tight enough , i respect the camaro & t.a. more than the delorean wanna be vette,hey MTU50 how about them wing's , the stanley is our's no doubt whooo

Yeah, its looking good, but as we've seen before, the best record in hockey doesn't guarantee anything. I'll be more excited when the playoffs draw near. I do agree though, with all the talent we have a dam* good chance of winning. I think the important thing is that Yzerman stays healthy. He is the leader of the team and they play a lot better with him in the line up. Should make for some exciting hockey.

Go Wings!!!!

1BAD89 · 02-01-2002, 03:14 PM

Quote:

If you can really get your hands on one for around $32K (Coupe), then I think it will definately be a hit - at least with me. Now, if they start labling these cars as "Cobra-Specials" or whatever and tack on another $5-7K for lack of availablity, then it will start to lose appeal.

Yeah right, there is no way that it'll be $32,000, isn't that pretty much the price of a fully loaded cobra now? Now it's all new, has a supercharger, there only making like 1,000 units, and the price is going to be about the same?

I bet at least $35,000-37,000 for the bare bones base model, and then if they really do only make 1,000, I see that price shooting to at least $40,000, and that price everyone is out of alot of people's range. On a 4 year note, $40,000 is an $833 payment and that is without interest. If they would've priced it close to $30,000, the people buying it might actually drive it, and race it, but I know it's going to cost at least $40,000 by the time the dealers get a hold of them.

302 LX Eric · 02-01-2002, 04:45 PM

That's why I said if you can get one for $32K.

95mustanggt · 02-01-2002, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MTU 50

Yeah, its looking good, but as we've seen before, the best record in hockey doesn't guarantee anything. I'll be more excited when the playoffs draw near. I do agree though, with all the talent we have a dam* good chance of winning. I think the important thing is that Yzerman stays healthy. He is the leader of the team and they play a lot better with him in the line up. Should make for some exciting hockey.

Go Wings!!!!

The Wings have a good club, but my money is on the Oilers. They have the most heart of any team in the league. All they have to do is get past the Stars

and they'll go all the way.

flyfilly94 · 02-03-2002, 09:11 PM

That MT article stated the top speed of the new Cobra to be 155 governored. Without restrictions, they say 175+ would be attainable.

Fox Body · 02-03-2002, 09:40 PM

My turn...

I'm the type of person that feels to just "wait and see". I would love to see a Cobra of that sort out on the road, but knowing that it could be bought for less than $35k and perform at least mid 12s with a good driver would be even better. We'll see......

StangFlyer · 02-07-2002, 08:43 PM

Everyone, we've just posted our 2003 SVT Cobra feature on the site. Be sure to check it out!

Unit 5302 · 02-07-2002, 11:33 PM

If this new Cobra Special will run 35k, that will be great. Unfortunately, in standard Ford stupidity they have sacrificed meeting demand so they can keep resale on the special model high.

Interestingly enough, the SVT site didn't make a distinction between the Cobra and the Cobra special.

A supercharged DOHC Cobra will OWN a Corvette (excluding the special model Z06 including it is like saying a Ford Escort Cosworth was an Escort). In the 0-60, in the 1/4mile, just about everywhere in the performance categories. To say the Corvette will compete is ludicrious. It's easy to see who the GM fans are. The people in the LS1 trance. Perhaps if you pray to the alumium LS1 god, he will send you the additional 50hp+ you will need to compete with the Cobra, if by some miracle Ford is rating it correctly?

The specifications I just got from the SVT site are 390hp, and 390lb/ft. Those are serious numbers, and way more than the current LS1 puts out. Way more. 390hp will be underrated anyway. An intercooled 8psi supercharger on the DOHC engine is going to make for massive power increases. Just like the Cobra R made 385hp

I guess by some people's logic the Cobra competes with the $80k Viper and the $50k Corvette/Z06, LOL. So what did the SS compete with? The Viper and Corvette as well? Perhaps the Neon R/T competes with the Viper and Corvette too because it is the top option in it's model? 2 Seat Roadster vs 2+2 Coupe/Convertable. The Mustang is practical, the Corvette and the Viper are toys. The GT-40, if released, will compete with the Viper and the Corvette.

I haven't been reading this thread, behold my suprise when I start and see so many ridiculous posts.

1BAD89 · 02-07-2002, 11:47 PM

I'm pretty excited to see what it is going to be able to do. You think some 11's? That would be pretty crazy.

1BAD89 · 02-07-2002, 11:52 PM

I don't think it's fair to say it will own a new vette, the C6 is supposed to be coming out 2003 and if I had to bet money on it, I would bet that it would be a step above the new "Cobra" in performance.

01-30-2002, 07:32 PM	#21
Old Guy with 87 GT Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Harrisburg, Pennsylvania Posts: 379	i think it will be a hit ......it'll bring alot more respect for the mustang and open the door for a larger market i alway's liked the mustangs becouse i know what thare potentiall is , but i think alot of sports car enthusiasts compare cars by the way they are out of the box......alot of peaple want a car they don't have to mod to get the performance.........i like to fix things up so i can look at a cars potential and that effects my judgment of what cars i like .........but i think there's a large group that don't want the hassel of modifieing it....., that want a fast car with a warrenty ,.........and want to get the porformance in the same auto loan........ i think it'll open the door to these types of peaple ........ on that note ....you know how many times i've heard peaple on this board say ,i can't wait till the warrinty runs out so i can mod it......with a factory stock car ,you wouldn't have to wait .......you could drive it home and toast a ram air gm on the way.....and take it back if you breake it doing so another reason i think it will be a hit is instant collectors item........as history tells us any time ford comes out with a faster or special version of the mustang ,it usually becomes a collectors favorite ........and holds it value .......in comparing it to a n/a cobra with aftermarket mods ........you can get the same performance numbers for less money with the n/a cobra but the moded car won't hold it's value near as much......... another reason i think it'll be a hit is it'll be one of the few cars available that runs those numbers and has the versitility of the mustang .......most cars with those numbers ,have no trunk space ,no passenger room,no leg or head room,no visability and take a rocket scientist to fix them..........i know that a cars versitility has as much apeal to me as the cars performance......i like a fast car thats usefull as well........i bet i'm not the only one all in all ,i think the deciding factors will be price ,warrinty ,and dependibility .....they will sell but i think if it's priced reasonable ,has a warrinty, and doesn't have any dependibility issues ,then the'll sell alot of em __________________ the "not so old",old guy 87 Mustang GT T-top >hanlon t-5, pro 5.0, centerforce clutch ,adj. cable/quatrant ,3.27s ,full 2 1/2 ex(off road H) adj. reg. ,e-cam ,70mm TB, cobra intake ,1.7rr ,ported/milled e7ets w/crane springs ,306 balaced/decked short block w/speed pro forged flat top pistons ...257rwhp/302rwt best et 13.7@102 (4/11 ) '80 Capri (future project,currently collecting parts for 351 moter)

01-30-2002, 07:34 PM	#22
91GTturbo Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Valdese, NC Posts: 361	I could not get the link above to open, but here are some of what MT had listed. Compression 8.5:1 Aluminum Heads Iron Block Intercooled w/8 lbs of boost Base Price $34,995 Price as tested $36,500 (and it was a vert, so as I said early a coupe should be around $32K) Also Ford expected trap speeds in the 1/4 of at least 110 mph. __________________ 91 single turbo vert Last edited by 91GTturbo; 01-30-2002 at 10:40 PM..

01-30-2002, 07:39 PM	#23
Old Guy with 87 GT Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Harrisburg, Pennsylvania Posts: 379	no offence intended with the ram air comment gonzo 99......you posted when i was writing my post __________________ the "not so old",old guy 87 Mustang GT T-top >hanlon t-5, pro 5.0, centerforce clutch ,adj. cable/quatrant ,3.27s ,full 2 1/2 ex(off road H) adj. reg. ,e-cam ,70mm TB, cobra intake ,1.7rr ,ported/milled e7ets w/crane springs ,306 balaced/decked short block w/speed pro forged flat top pistons ...257rwhp/302rwt best et 13.7@102 (4/11 ) '80 Capri (future project,currently collecting parts for 351 moter)

01-30-2002, 11:00 PM	#24
Mercury The Redneck James Bond Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Fayetteville NC Posts: 1,707	Dark 5.0 It is considered a 2 door sedan, so in essence, yes it is a family car. At least according to insurance, and other such guidelines. Just because it is expensive doesnt mean its to be compared to the Corvette. Thats to say if it is the price you think it is, which it may not be. Some one mentioned the Z06 Vette, which is no where near 40,000 dollars.They go for more like 75,000 dollars. I myself would also prefer to buy a GT and just modify it, or a used Cobra and do the same, but dont forget, we are not the normal consumer. The normal consumer just wants to hop in and go. They dont want to have to worry about all the details and pains that can arrise out of modifying the car. They also want a warranty.They want road side assistance, and all the other perks, right down to the complimentary cup of coffie while you fill out your paperwork. I do think it will be a success, in many ways. __________________ 64 1/2 "D" code Red Mustang Coupe. Red Baron, 2000 Perf Red Mustang GT. 5spd. Stage 2 CNC heads with Large Valves, Comp Cams (270-274 dur .550 lift), Forged Crank, DRP pistons, Manly H-beams, Pro M 87 mm Mass Air, 24lb Inj, 75mm TB, Plenum Spacer ,Long Tube Headers, Homemade H-pipe, 2 chamber Flows, 4:10's, Steeda Tri-Ax, LKW 70/30's, Eibach Drag Springs, Steeda SubFrames, Battle Boxes, Rear Girdle, Adj uppers, Alunimum Drshft, Southside Lift Bars. Project Cars, 64 1/2 6cyl coupe, 1930 Model A Nostalgia Rod.

01-31-2002, 08:51 AM	#25
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	I think probably half the cobras sold are sold in Texas cause I see them everywhere, So I am sure Ill get to see one at the track sooner or later. __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

01-31-2002, 10:18 PM	#26
Red514LX Registered Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 119	390 hp off the showroom floor from a cobra.......never thought I'd see the day __________________ Jeff 1990 LX Mustang Coupe

02-01-2002, 01:34 PM	#28
MTU 50 GOT TORQUE ???? Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: New Hudson, Michigan, USA Posts: 689	Yeah, I don't know where the $75,000 for a ZO6 figure came from, but that is way too high. $50,000 is a lot closer to the Z06's actual price, at least as far as I've seen. I don't think the new Cobra will cost $40,000 though. Hopefully the Motor Trend article is correct and a vert goes for $36,xxx or so and a coupe would be in the $32-34,xxx range. Don't get me wrong, that is still a lot of money and more than I will be able to afford, but there are a lot of people that can afford that and maybe not the extra $13-18,xxx large that a Z06 commands. Comparing the Cobra to a Z06 really is like comparing apples to oranges. Sure it will kick * if the Cobra can post 1/4 mile times close to the Z06 or even better, but they really are different machines. I'm also sure the Cobra can hold its own on a road course, but you have to remember this new Cobra will have more weight in the front due to the iron block. Again a Z06 will beat it, but it better for the extra $green$ it costs. Time will tell how everything pans out. One thing is for sure. It makes me happy to see new, more powerful, RWD American Muscle/Sports Cars** coming out that will kick the crap out of most imports!!!! __________________ 1991 GT, AOD, Moroso Cold Air, 3.73s, Pulleys, H-pipe, MAC Pro-Dumps, FMS c-springs, and KYBs, A/c delete, 190 LPH fuel pump, 3-row radiator, Maximum Motorsports full length subframes 2002 Oldsmobile Bravada(wife's car) 2005 Ford Taurus SEL (company ride) GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS !!!!

02-01-2002, 01:49 PM	#29
302 LX Eric or '331 LX Eric' Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 2,142	If you can really get your hands on one for around $32K (Coupe), then I think it will definately be a hit - at least with me. Now, if they start labling these cars as "Cobra-Specials" or whatever and tack on another $5-7K for lack of availablity, then it will start to lose appeal. I really hope that the HP numbers are for real. First we had the "cobra fix" issue, then the Bullit's came in under par - I do not want to see this happen again. If the numbers are solid, it would be easy to gain extra HP with a pulley swap and some tuning - should be well over 400 at the crank. I should say though, that I am somewhat disappointed that Ford had to supercharge the motor in order to get more power. I would have rather seen the 5.4L (331) truck motor tweaked and tuned to run in the Cobra. With the right cams and heads, they could have had a 350 HP motor - with more torque than the 281 to boot! On the other hand, I will be discussing the issue with my wife tonight. A 2003 Cobra with damn near 400 horses under the hood in my garage would look sweet next to my 91 LX Coupe. Now, I've just got to convince my wife that her 2001 Taurus SEL has got to sit outside of the garage. If they have them in that new "mineral gray metallic" color, then I think I'll be placing my order as soon as I can. This Cobra has me excited!!! E __________________ 1991 5.0 LX Coupe - 40,750 miles 331 cu. in. / Tremec 3550 / BFG Drag Radials 12.22 @ 114.31 mph - w/1.89 60'

02-01-2002, 01:56 PM	#30
Crazy Horse GT Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sale Creek, TN. C. S. A. Posts: 4,652	why should the stang have to compete with a sport's car anyway, sports car's remimind me of guy's named biff with their sweater sleeve's tied around their neck ,just not tight enough , i respect the camaro & t.a. more than the delorean wanna be vette,hey MTU50 how about them wing's , the stanley is our's no doubt whooo __________________ 95 gt vert, lot's of stuff, it aint slow. 04 sonic blue v - six my beater 89 rs camaro iroc turbo hood, other stuff, my wifes ride 84 lx stang cammed up 289 hi po, etc 65 falcon, maybe by the year 2020. black 00gt, gone but never forgotten. R H C- member # 1 o.b.c. da prez- member # 1 if your under 40 dont ask. goodbye for now odie,r.i.p. 11-27-03

02-01-2002, 04:45 PM	#33
302 LX Eric or '331 LX Eric' Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 2,142	That's why I said if you can get one for $32K.

02-03-2002, 09:11 PM	#35
flyfilly94 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: South Dakota Posts: 3	That MT article stated the top speed of the new Cobra to be 155 governored. Without restrictions, they say 175+ would be attainable. __________________ 1994 V6- slow, looks alright though

02-03-2002, 09:40 PM	#36
Fox Body Mustang Maniac Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: GA, U.S.A Posts: 2,266	My turn... I'm the type of person that feels to just "wait and see". I would love to see a Cobra of that sort out on the road, but knowing that it could be bought for less than $35k and perform at least mid 12s with a good driver would be even better. We'll see...... __________________ 351W-powered 1979 Ford Mustang Ghia notchback '79 Video @ Idle Stock 5.8L under 4" cowl 'glass hood, C4 w/ Transgo shift kit, Holley 750 cfm, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake; Fluidyne Al radiator, Flexalite 175 electric fan, 1 5/8" MAC shorty headers, FRPP Al driveshaft; S&W 6-point cage; 2.5" Off road H-pipe, 2-chamber Flowmasters, 8.8" Rear w/ 3.55s; Weld wheels (15x6;15x8), Front: 225/60/15, Rear: 275/50/15 Nitto NT 555R Drag Radials; 14 x 4” K&N X-stream air filter. '92 GT (5-speed) Small In Car Video Stock 5.0L, 2-chamber Flowmasters, MAC CAI, Tri-Ax, Al pedals... "Red, thou art my companion. Hasten now your quickened metamorphosis to Green that I may conquer all who dare abide there beside me. May they be left thither behind burnt black." ---Fox Body

02-07-2002, 08:43 PM	#37
StangFlyer Founder Join Date: Jun 1995 Location: Michigan Posts: 19,326	Everyone, we've just posted our 2003 SVT Cobra feature on the site. Be sure to check it out! __________________ StangFlyer 1991 Mustang GT - Supercharged 377 Stroker 2000 Ford Lightning - Project Lightning Hauler Media Center Gallery - View my member photos

02-07-2002, 11:33 PM	#38
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	If this new Cobra Special will run 35k, that will be great. Unfortunately, in standard Ford stupidity they have sacrificed meeting demand so they can keep resale on the special model high. Interestingly enough, the SVT site didn't make a distinction between the Cobra and the Cobra special. A supercharged DOHC Cobra will OWN a Corvette (excluding the special model Z06 including it is like saying a Ford Escort Cosworth was an Escort). In the 0-60, in the 1/4mile, just about everywhere in the performance categories. To say the Corvette will compete is ludicrious. It's easy to see who the GM fans are. The people in the LS1 trance. Perhaps if you pray to the alumium LS1 god, he will send you the additional 50hp+ you will need to compete with the Cobra, if by some miracle Ford is rating it correctly? The specifications I just got from the SVT site are 390hp, and 390lb/ft. Those are serious numbers, and way more than the current LS1 puts out. Way more. 390hp will be underrated anyway. An intercooled 8psi supercharger on the DOHC engine is going to make for massive power increases. Just like the Cobra R made 385hp I guess by some people's logic the Cobra competes with the $80k Viper and the $50k Corvette/Z06, LOL. So what did the SS compete with? The Viper and Corvette as well? Perhaps the Neon R/T competes with the Viper and Corvette too because it is the top option in it's model? 2 Seat Roadster vs 2+2 Coupe/Convertable. The Mustang is practical, the Corvette and the Viper are toys. The GT-40, if released, will compete with the Viper and the Corvette. I haven't been reading this thread, behold my suprise when I start and see so many ridiculous posts.

02-07-2002, 11:47 PM	#39
1BAD89 Tubbed and Juiced Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma Posts: 1,861	I'm pretty excited to see what it is going to be able to do. You think some 11's? That would be pretty crazy.

02-07-2002, 11:52 PM	#40
1BAD89 Tubbed and Juiced Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma Posts: 1,861	I don't think it's fair to say it will own a new vette, the C6 is supposed to be coming out 2003 and if I had to bet money on it, I would bet that it would be a step above the new "Cobra" in performance.

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