Do you think SVT will strike gold with the new supercharged, 390HP 2003 Mustang Cobra

[Unit 5302]

Originally posted by CactusHugger11
i dont think anyone buys a v8 sports car because they get good gas mileage. and what would happen if you supercharged the 7.0??? youd have an absolute rocket.

No, you'd have a $25,000 engine, or pieces of engine block lining your engine compartment. Feel free to build a supercharged 427 if you want to, but when you finally get everything put together perfect and realize your engine isn't streetable, or reliable, and that your car exceeds the $100k price tag....

Or I could always say.. What if Ford took a Saturn V booster rocket and strapped it to the roof of my Mustang???? Can you imagine how fast it would go then?????

Get a clue. (You can find one with years of practicing common sense.)

[Unit 5302]

By the way, one of the main reasons I bought another Mustang V-8 after my last one was because of the very good fuel economy I got.

[91GTturbo]

Originally posted by CactusHugger11
i dont think anyone buys a v8 sports car because they get good gas mileage. and what would happen if you supercharged the 7.0??? youd have an absolute rocket.

What If, What If. Man thats all I hear from the GM camp. I've got a rocket now and it only took me 5.0 liters to do it.

If and when they build a 7.0, how much is that thing going to cost, probably twice the amount of a new cobra? It will be limited production, probably less than a thousand units, and the people that buy it aren't going to be thinking about supercharging it.

[1BAD89]

You can make anything fast if you put enough money into it, and chose the right parts.

[Dark_5.0]

UNIT----- Please notice that I drive a 5.0 mustang and there for I must be a ford guy, I can afford to buy whatever car I want with in reason.

I am not talking about competing in the sales market, You stated that the cobra will own certain cars..........To own someone you have to beat them in a race correct......Most intelligent people race at a track. So therefore I think I did make a valid arguement.

It is my opiniojn that the 5.0 is the best drag car around, But I have to keep it real and the truth is the Grand Nationals and the S-10's Own most of the 5.0's around here for now.

I am doing my part to change that, one mod at a time.

[Unit 5302]

You can try to "keep it real" all you want. The Cobra will own the base Corvette in performance. On the street, or at the track.

That being placed aside, the Cobra will NOT compete with the Corvette or Viper. Compete with refers to sales markets. As I previously stated, nobody who needs 4 seats will look at purchasing a Corvette or Viper. It's like saying the Metro competes with the Caravan.

The thing that I find the most funny about this small displacement bashing is how smaller displacement cars with power adders are held with respect in a lot of cases. There is no replacement for displacement is the old proverb. Yet the 5.0 has put many thundering old big blocks to shame. Handicapped in displacement, but with superior technology it proved itself. The 5.0 GT's competitors in some cases were forced induction turbo cars. A couple of those cars became extremely respected. The Toyota Supra TT, Buick Grand National, even the little Mitsu/Eagle Eclipse/Talon combo. Those little engined 6cyl and 4 bangers with just a few mods were making some of the big blocks of yesteryear look bad.

[CactusHugger11]

I think the 2003 Cobras will be the best cars in the world.

[TJR]

The Cobra will own the base Corvette in performance. On the street, or at the track.

Unit- I respect your opinion, but I thought I'd give mine. Please don't take this as a flame.

IMO, I think that the new cobra should hold it's own in a straight line, but I'm not sure about on a road course. Here's why:

- The corvette is better balanced (50/50 wieght dist. vs 57/43)
- The corvette is a lot lighter (3200lbs vs 3650lbs)
- Vettes are dynoing 300-315 rwhp stock vs 330-340 (if the Cobras make the Advertised 390 hp). I don't know if the difference in hp will make up for the difference in weight.
- I also think braking will be better on the vette due to the lower weight, but that remains to be seen

A guy on the corral has a 2000 C5 that dynoed 310-315rwhp and went 12.80-12.90@114 bone stock. I think if you put that car on a road course with a 03 Cobra, it would be a close race or maybe even beat it. Granted, that's a strong running vette, but I don't think an average vette will be much slower. Of course this is all speculation at this point, but it should be interesting to see what kind of performance numbers the Cobras put up.

[TARZAN]

Where is the post that brought this back to the top

-Will

[StangFlyer]

Originally posted by TARZAN
Where is the post that brought this back to the top

When someone votes in the poll it brings it back to the top also...

[TARZAN]

I see, I see, much obliged

-Will

[Mercury]

Originally posted by Dark_5.0
The topic is about the new cobra coming out not the current one......and I hope your not trying to say a cobra with a blower is a family car.

Did I say such in my Post?? Nope. More like stating Marketing aspects, Likely consumer, and insurance brackets...

Hmmm..I dont recall saying its a family car.

Oh, and Yes..I was talking about the 2003 Cobra...Not the prevouis ones...Although they all share the same market. Perhaps one should reread the post you quoted.

[Mercury]

Originally posted by Dark_5.0
The topic is about the new cobra coming out not the current one......and I hope your not trying to say a cobra with a blower is a family car.

Did I say such in my Post?? Nope. More like stating Marketing aspects, Likely consumer, and insurance brackets...

Hmmm..I dont recall saying its a family car.

[Dark_5.0]

You have seriously got to be kidding me.

Jesus how long ago was this.

Since this thread started alot has changed. I actually owned an 01 cobra for 1 1/2 years. It was a good car but sucks for straight line performance.

As it turns out the 03 cobra damn sure didnt own the base model vettes at the 1/4 mile drag strip. Not in stock form and not in modded form either.

[302 LX Eric]

Originally posted by Dark_5.0
As it turns out the 03 cobra damn sure didnt own the base model vettes at the 1/4 mile drag strip. Not in stock form and not in modded form either.

I know this is an old thread, but a few simple mods to the 03 Cobra's and they are a wicked fast street car, there's just no bones about it.

Not trying to argue, just bringing up my point of view and experience at the track.

E

[Dark_5.0]

The 03 cobra is an awesome car period. I am not disputing that.

I just think that people are a little too quick to say it will own LS1 powered corvettes and camaro's. If I remember right someone was even trying to say it would own the Z06 vette

Ford did strike gold with the 03 cobra by gaining back some respect on the drag strip.

Ever since the introduction of the LS1 camaros have been significantly faster than stangs in stock form.

Ford did good with the 03 cobra but I think they did great with the Mach1. A solid axle and 3.55 gears from the factory not to mention every bit as much HP as an LS1.

The only reason I got rid of my cobra is cause I want to have an 11 second fox body stang.

I see an 06 cobra in my future.

[OKC03Cobra]

Originally posted by Dark_5.0
The 03 cobra is an awesome car period. I am not disputing that.

I just think that people are a little too quick to say it will own LS1 powered corvettes and camaro's. If I remember right someone was even trying to say it would own the Z06 vette

Ford did strike gold with the 03 cobra by gaining back some respect on the drag strip.

Ever since the introduction of the LS1 camaros have been significantly faster than stangs in stock form.

Ford did good with the 03 cobra but I think they did great with the Mach1. A solid axle and 3.55 gears from the factory not to mention every bit as much HP as an LS1.

The only reason I got rid of my cobra is cause I want to have an 11 second fox body stang.

I see an 06 cobra in my future.

I paid 35k for my 03 Cobra and for less than 3k in mods I have blown away several z06s on the freeway. There are KB Cobras out there that have no problem with z06's. They no longer make camaros or trans-ams. As a matter of fact, I traded in my 01 WS6 for an 03 Cobra.

[Dark_5.0]

I am sure your modded 03 cobra is very fast. I was speaking in terms of stock vs. stock

When you start throwing mods at two different cars there is no base line to make a good comparison.

In the end it is really run watcha brung. And I guess if you bring an 03 cobra your chances are pretty good.

[Mercury]

Dude...You gotta be kidding me. I've seen Stock 03 Cobra's whoop up on Standard Vettes.

The Lightly modded ones make the Vettes look silly. What kind of drap strip do you go to????

Yeah, the LS-1 is a god send..thats why there are alot of them with Bent push rods, Wiped Cam lobes, and dead clutches.

[Dark_5.0]

Stock vs stock it is a drivers race.

As far as modded goes from what I have "seen" the 03 cobras dont fare too well head to head.

I know people with nothing more than a cam and bolt ons and exhaust running 11.50's in LS1's.

The fastest 03 cobra I have seen only ran an 12.30 and he was pretty damn modded. The problem is everyone is scared of breaking half shafts so no slicks.