Odd Rice question

Coupe Devil · 02-28-2002, 02:18 PM

Ok so we all know that some of these cars can make impressive power for a four banger if they're built and have power adders and stuff. 99% of these cars are also front wheel drive. As stangers one of the first mods most of us make is gears with out worrying about power.

First ? is if ricer ( i.e. Civics, Integra's, typical rice not a Supra or anything like that) cars could swap gears in the front end (man that sounds wierd) would they be competitive with a Mustang with mods and most especially gears.

Second ? is why do these ricer guys worry about all the power when 99% also cant put it to the ground since they cant have the gear. I may be way out of line here. If I am let me know, I'll shut up.

Brad

mustangman65_79 · 02-28-2002, 02:40 PM

Most of them street race, and they think the faster they can go(top speed), that they will win. Most don't worry about low end speed, they think that when u tach out, then They pass u at 130 MPH, that they won the race. Most don't understand the whole Quater mile thing.

blue00gt · 02-28-2002, 05:34 PM

The weight transfer launching a front wheel drive car is just fundamentally wrong - it transfers the weight to the non-drive wheels and lightens up the front. Even with gears there's only so much power you can put down without burning the tires, which we all know costs some serious ET. Try launching your stang in reverse .

gsxkilla · 03-02-2002, 04:52 PM

most of the time the people that own v-tech hondas and acuras and so on want to race punches b/c they know they can not hook up and from a punch turbocharged hondas are pretty fast but its funny u talk to like 9-10 of the honda owners that go street racing and ask what they have done to there car they will tell u exhaust and intake like thats going to really do anything!
ryan

1965GTO · 03-04-2002, 02:13 AM

They have the weight of the engine and transaxle on the drive wheels. They have to stiffen the rear suspension so that the weight doesn't transfer to the rear. And yes they can change gear ratios.

7000rpmisheaven · 03-04-2002, 10:59 AM

Don't forget that they need huge wings on the back to add maximum down force on the rear. They want to transfer as little weight to the rear as possible. Oh wait, that doesn't really make sense does it.

inferno · 03-04-2002, 01:37 PM

Can't say much about other fwd cars, but most hondas come stock with 4.xx final drives. The gear ratio is already optimized for performance, just lacking the power in stock form.

Mercury · 03-04-2002, 01:44 PM

Inferno beat me to it. But alot of the Import cars do have some pretty deep gears on them already.

95mustanggt · 03-04-2002, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mercury
alot of the Import cars do have some pretty deep gears on them already.

They need to as they don't have the torque to use anything else. Good thing they can rev high.

Coupe Devil · 03-04-2002, 03:31 PM

Man that is interesting. Shows how much I know about ricers, Oh yeah I forgot I dont care. I was just curious. I really didnt realize there was a gear swap available for these cars. My buddy has a Accord in stock trim (he hates the ricer crowd but needs something nice for for his ol' lady and something a little more dependable) and its realitively fast for stock front wheel drive 4 door with all the goodies. I was just wondered. Thanks Guys.

Brad

02-28-2002, 02:18 PM	#1
Coupe Devil Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Myrtle Beach SC Posts: 1,643	Odd Rice question Ok so we all know that some of these cars can make impressive power for a four banger if they're built and have power adders and stuff. 99% of these cars are also front wheel drive. As stangers one of the first mods most of us make is gears with out worrying about power. First ? is if ricer ( i.e. Civics, Integra's, typical rice not a Supra or anything like that) cars could swap gears in the front end (man that sounds wierd) would they be competitive with a Mustang with mods and most especially gears. Second ? is why do these ricer guys worry about all the power when 99% also cant put it to the ground since they cant have the gear. I may be way out of line here. If I am let me know, I'll shut up. Brad __________________ 1990 GT, 347, TFS TW Heads, TFS Cam, TFS Track heat, Twin turbos, FMIC, T5. Built Ford Tough Moderator

02-28-2002, 02:40 PM	#2
mustangman65_79 My poor 79 RIP Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Suisun City, Posts: 2,320	Most of them street race, and they think the faster they can go(top speed), that they will win. Most don't worry about low end speed, they think that when u tach out, then They pass u at 130 MPH, that they won the race. Most don't understand the whole Quater mile thing. __________________ '84 mustang GT turbo '85 LTD '89 Camaro Irocz z28 '94 Lightning '96 Trans am

02-28-2002, 05:34 PM	#3
blue00gt Mustang Addict Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: McKinney, TX Posts: 1,294	The weight transfer launching a front wheel drive car is just fundamentally wrong - it transfers the weight to the non-drive wheels and lightens up the front. Even with gears there's only so much power you can put down without burning the tires, which we all know costs some serious ET. Try launching your stang in reverse . __________________ Strike down the unroadworthy! 2000 GT Atl. Blue: '03 Cobra motor - 465rwhp/473rwtq, T-56 6-speed, full MM TA/PH & tubular K-member suspension, Saleen body, 17" Torq-Thrust II's, M/T ET Street radials, and lots more '94 Rio Red Cobra: All the bolt-ons, 3.73s

03-02-2002, 04:52 PM	#4
gsxkilla Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Missouri Posts: 48	most of the time the people that own v-tech hondas and acuras and so on want to race punches b/c they know they can not hook up and from a punch turbocharged hondas are pretty fast but its funny u talk to like 9-10 of the honda owners that go street racing and ask what they have done to there car they will tell u exhaust and intake like thats going to really do anything! ryan __________________ Cracked Heads Engine Valves Rattle Oil Leaks Every Time: "Chevrolet"

03-04-2002, 10:59 AM	#6
7000rpmisheaven Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: germantown MD Posts: 283	Don't forget that they need huge wings on the back to add maximum down force on the rear. They want to transfer as little weight to the rear as possible. Oh wait, that doesn't really make sense does it. __________________ 85 GT 4bbl roller cam 2 ch. Flowmasters, O/R H-pipe Performer intake and carb milodon water pump, FMS 9mm wires, aluminum driveshaft, king cobra clutch

03-04-2002, 02:13 AM	#5
1965GTO Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Dupo,ill Posts: 219	They have the weight of the engine and transaxle on the drive wheels. They have to stiffen the rear suspension so that the weight doesn't transfer to the rear. And yes they can change gear ratios.

03-04-2002, 01:37 PM	#7
inferno The Instigator Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: So Cal and Houston Posts: 764	Can't say much about other fwd cars, but most hondas come stock with 4.xx final drives. The gear ratio is already optimized for performance, just lacking the power in stock form. __________________ The most powerful weapon known to man is the human brain....unfortunately, many people are walking around unarmed.

03-04-2002, 01:44 PM	#8
Mercury The Redneck James Bond Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Fayetteville NC Posts: 1,707	Inferno beat me to it. But alot of the Import cars do have some pretty deep gears on them already. __________________ 64 1/2 "D" code Red Mustang Coupe. Red Baron, 2000 Perf Red Mustang GT. 5spd. Stage 2 CNC heads with Large Valves, Comp Cams (270-274 dur .550 lift), Forged Crank, DRP pistons, Manly H-beams, Pro M 87 mm Mass Air, 24lb Inj, 75mm TB, Plenum Spacer ,Long Tube Headers, Homemade H-pipe, 2 chamber Flows, 4:10's, Steeda Tri-Ax, LKW 70/30's, Eibach Drag Springs, Steeda SubFrames, Battle Boxes, Rear Girdle, Adj uppers, Alunimum Drshft, Southside Lift Bars. Project Cars, 64 1/2 6cyl coupe, 1930 Model A Nostalgia Rod.

03-04-2002, 03:31 PM	#10
Coupe Devil Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Myrtle Beach SC Posts: 1,643	Man that is interesting. Shows how much I know about ricers, Oh yeah I forgot I dont care. I was just curious. I really didnt realize there was a gear swap available for these cars. My buddy has a Accord in stock trim (he hates the ricer crowd but needs something nice for for his ol' lady and something a little more dependable) and its realitively fast for stock front wheel drive 4 door with all the goodies. I was just wondered. Thanks Guys. Brad __________________ 1990 GT, 347, TFS TW Heads, TFS Cam, TFS Track heat, Twin turbos, FMIC, T5. Built Ford Tough Moderator

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