debating about exhaust

Tony Frank · 04-20-2002, 08:27 PM

ok heres the deal. i have a custom 3inch stainless steel exhaust from my dads stang. its eveything but the h pipe. i have to get custom pipe put there.

what should i run? H or X pipe??????

is there a distinct sound that a X makes??? is one quiter than the other? and if there is does anyone have a sound clip???

what do you guys think i should do

im not running cats and i have longtubes.

Tony Frank · 04-21-2002, 02:06 PM

CAN ANYONE HELP ME?

tireburner163 · 04-21-2002, 02:35 PM

Well your gonna lose torque with 3" pipe. It's too big IMO, for your combo

The H-pipe makes more down low and the X pipe makes more up in the RPMS. I've heard to use H-pipes on chambered mufflers, and X pipes on straight through mufflers.

Don't trust sound clips, your computer isn't gonna reproduce the sounds right.

Tony Frank · 04-21-2002, 11:02 PM

yea i know that 3 inch is a little big for my combo, but heres the deal, i have 2.5 inch now and dont like it at all, i can sell it to a buddy of mine for what i bought it for. and my dad has this kick *** 3 inch custom system done by watson engeneering. sooo ill just take his

i dont think im gonna notice the torque loss because im chainging from 3.55 gears in my 7.5 rear to 4.10 in a new 8.8 rear.

well if h pipes make more torque then i should go for that to compensate for the loss with the 3inch system......

also im planning on new heads so that should compliment the high flow exhaust

Unit 5302 · 04-21-2002, 11:57 PM

I really don't think the cat back has much to do with torque. It's not the restriction in the system, and making it bigger would have about the same effect as putting dumps on a car.

The H pipe/X pipe and headers will affect torque more.

The X pipe, from my understanding offers a shallower, more European tone, and it can sound pretty funky sometimes. The H pipe is deeper, and it's probably more versitile.

tireburner163 · 04-22-2002, 08:36 AM

Ok, are you gettin a 3" H-pipe or a 2 1/2" H-pipe???

Tony Frank · 04-22-2002, 10:51 AM

3 inch h pipe. i need to take it to watson engeneering to have it done.
its nothing i can go and buy, its all custom. the pipe wouldnt bend over the axle so i have to go under it. it still looks sweet. the pipes come up on an angle in the center of the back of the car. the pipes are about 10 inches apart from eachother
i might post pics in a month or so

04-20-2002, 08:27 PM	#1
Tony Frank Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Brooklyn originally, but Grand Rapids now Posts: 309	debating about exhaust ok heres the deal. i have a custom 3inch stainless steel exhaust from my dads stang. its eveything but the h pipe. i have to get custom pipe put there. what should i run? H or X pipe?????? is there a distinct sound that a X makes??? is one quiter than the other? and if there is does anyone have a sound clip??? what do you guys think i should do im not running cats and i have longtubes. __________________ Grand Valley State University Senior Accounting and Finance Major 1985 Mustang GT 19,000 ORIGINAL miles, E-303 cam, edelbrock performer RPM intake, holley 600 cfm carb, MAC headers, windage tray, 8.8 rear end with 4.10 gears, 4"cowl hood, 5lug conversion, 04 Mach1 wheels. http://www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/moi-display.cgi?1501

04-21-2002, 02:06 PM	#2
Tony Frank Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Brooklyn originally, but Grand Rapids now Posts: 309	CAN ANYONE HELP ME? __________________ Grand Valley State University Senior Accounting and Finance Major 1985 Mustang GT 19,000 ORIGINAL miles, E-303 cam, edelbrock performer RPM intake, holley 600 cfm carb, MAC headers, windage tray, 8.8 rear end with 4.10 gears, 4"cowl hood, 5lug conversion, 04 Mach1 wheels. http://www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/moi-display.cgi?1501

04-21-2002, 02:35 PM	#3
tireburner163 It's a lot like a race car Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Meridian, MS Posts: 4,130	Well your gonna lose torque with 3" pipe. It's too big IMO, for your combo The H-pipe makes more down low and the X pipe makes more up in the RPMS. I've heard to use H-pipes on chambered mufflers, and X pipes on straight through mufflers. Don't trust sound clips, your computer isn't gonna reproduce the sounds right. __________________ 1987 Buick T-type 1998 HD Electra Elide

04-21-2002, 11:02 PM	#4
Tony Frank Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Brooklyn originally, but Grand Rapids now Posts: 309	yea i know that 3 inch is a little big for my combo, but heres the deal, i have 2.5 inch now and dont like it at all, i can sell it to a buddy of mine for what i bought it for. and my dad has this kick *** 3 inch custom system done by watson engeneering. sooo ill just take his i dont think im gonna notice the torque loss because im chainging from 3.55 gears in my 7.5 rear to 4.10 in a new 8.8 rear. well if h pipes make more torque then i should go for that to compensate for the loss with the 3inch system...... also im planning on new heads so that should compliment the high flow exhaust __________________ Grand Valley State University Senior Accounting and Finance Major 1985 Mustang GT 19,000 ORIGINAL miles, E-303 cam, edelbrock performer RPM intake, holley 600 cfm carb, MAC headers, windage tray, 8.8 rear end with 4.10 gears, 4"cowl hood, 5lug conversion, 04 Mach1 wheels. http://www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/moi-display.cgi?1501

04-22-2002, 08:36 AM	#6
tireburner163 It's a lot like a race car Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Meridian, MS Posts: 4,130	Ok, are you gettin a 3" H-pipe or a 2 1/2" H-pipe??? __________________ 1987 Buick T-type 1998 HD Electra Elide

04-21-2002, 11:57 PM	#5
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	I really don't think the cat back has much to do with torque. It's not the restriction in the system, and making it bigger would have about the same effect as putting dumps on a car. The H pipe/X pipe and headers will affect torque more. The X pipe, from my understanding offers a shallower, more European tone, and it can sound pretty funky sometimes. The H pipe is deeper, and it's probably more versitile.

04-22-2002, 10:51 AM	#7
Tony Frank Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Brooklyn originally, but Grand Rapids now Posts: 309	3 inch h pipe. i need to take it to watson engeneering to have it done. its nothing i can go and buy, its all custom. the pipe wouldnt bend over the axle so i have to go under it. it still looks sweet. the pipes come up on an angle in the center of the back of the car. the pipes are about 10 inches apart from eachother i might post pics in a month or so __________________ Grand Valley State University Senior Accounting and Finance Major 1985 Mustang GT 19,000 ORIGINAL miles, E-303 cam, edelbrock performer RPM intake, holley 600 cfm carb, MAC headers, windage tray, 8.8 rear end with 4.10 gears, 4"cowl hood, 5lug conversion, 04 Mach1 wheels. http://www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/moi-display.cgi?1501

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