Democrat Points

[mustardjohn]

My opinion is that it is more a scheme of creating dependance. The more you depend on me the more control I have over you. If I can get you to depend on me by my spending someonelse's money. I get control without paying for it or earning it. If I am permissive with you, it is easier for me to have many friends.

Ultimately it fails as the number of people earning their way becomes out of balance with those depending on them. Especially when the process is brokered by politicians and public bureaucracy.

What seems to work is allowing the money to flow to the provider of desired products and services not the dependent. Free markets the opposite of Federal/State Control.

[Mr 5 0]

Originally posted by mustardjohn :

My opinion is that it is more a scheme of creating dependance. The more you depend on me the more control I have over you. If I can get you to depend on me by my spending someon else's money I get control without paying for it or earning it. If I am permissive with you, it is easier for me to have many friends.

Ultimately it fails as the number of people earning their way becomes out of balance with those depending on them. Especially when the process is brokered by politicians and public bureaucracy.

What seems to work is allowing the money to flow to the provider of desired products and services not the dependent. Free markets the opposite of Federal/State Control.

Which is why liberals howl about any form of tax cut and always try to label them as 'for the rich' in order to generate class envy, which usually - and rightfully - fails.

The Democrat party today is simply a collection of disparate interest groups that all demand both government money and laws that favor their respective agendas. From the pro-abortionists to the teacher and civil service unions to gays to black 'victimization' crusaders to the rapacious tort lawyers - they all want tax money diverted to their intrests and so, they all promote some form of socialism and 'wealth distribution' that usually includes huge taxes on business and the producers of this country and lots of laws to promote the interests of and reward tort lawyers, black 'leaders' still playing the victim, Civil Service union workers, teachers, etc. Thus, we see fierce resistance on the left to tort reform, school vouchers, dismantling of destructive welfare systems, even the slightest restrictions on abortion-on-demand and lots of angry responses to any tax decrease of any kind. This happens while the Democrat party celebrates and even promotes almost any human deviance predilection as a 'right' and viciously castigates those who oppose this kind of legitimizing of destructive behaviors.

This is the left, the liberal the Democrat party of today and this is why, if voters take even a casual look at what it really stands for (not the fake posturing we saw at the Democrat convention where they pretended to be something they were not) President Bush, a decent man who is firm in his principles and doing a good job for all Americans under adverse conditions, will win this election easily, as I have predicted he would since early this year. My views have not changed and lately, the polls show that more Americans are moving toward Bush, so I remain confident of his success in the November 2nd election and I continue to support his candidacy.

[CupCake]

I appreciate your welcome into the board, thank you. The way that I see things is that people don't want to take responsability for their acts, there are some methods out there for a woman not to get pregnant that it is your own fault if you do and if you do be mature enough to embrace the situation, if you can't do that then you shouldn't be having sex in the first place. I am tired of hearing democrats complain about their goverment when they don't know how good they have it, I would like to send all this people that talk about war to Iraq for a while, and see what they do, see that what our soldiers is goind over there is worth the price. I can tell you know that they wouldn't survive and am almost positive that they will change their minds. The problem is that people now what it is right but they don't want to do it because it is usually the hardest thing to do, be glad that you a president that thinks clear and it is not full of crap and that wants to do what is right and not what it is popular.

p.s. sorry if I misspeled some words, take into consideration that my first language is not English. Thanks.

[rbohm]

Originally posted by CupCake
I appreciate your welcome into the board, thank you. The way that I see things is that people don't want to take responsability for their acts, there are some methods out there for a woman not to get pregnant that it is your own fault if you do and if you do be mature enough to embrace the situation, if you can't do that then you shouldn't be having sex in the first place. I am tired of hearing democrats complain about their goverment when they don't know how good they have it, I would like to send all this people that talk about war to Iraq for a while, and see what they do, see that what our soldiers is goind over there is worth the price. I can tell you know that they wouldn't survive and am almost positive that they will change their minds. The problem is that people now what it is right but they don't want to do it because it is usually the hardest thing to do, be glad that you a president that thinks clear and it is not full of crap and that wants to do what is right and not what it is popular.

p.s. sorry if I misspeled some words, take into consideration that my first language is not English. Thanks.

ok, i think i am in love you are a breath of fresh air cupcake, and regarding your spelling, and grammer, you are at least as good if not better than most of us americans who have been dealing with the language for all our lives(yes it is be cause we are too lazy, including me, to go back and double check our typing).

[CupCake]

LOL. I need to start doing that from now on. This is the first time that I am able to talk about my political views, usually hispanic people don't want to hear anything that has to do with W, I guess it is because of some of the immigration laws. To be honest I know it is hard to be able to become legal in this country, but I think there are things that are more important than that. Like having values and moral, that is what we need. There is too many people out there that don't have any direction in their lives and they think it is ok, but it is not, they always think it is somebody else's fault but theirs. I think the problem is not the different of opinion on certain fields, I think it is the fact that W doesn't have any trouble when it comes to share his faith and believes and I think that most democrats desagree, because of that, too bad people feel uncomfortable when somebody is able to talk about what it is right. You can't be a religious person and me a democrat at the same time, it doesn't work that way.

[Mr 5 0]

Originally posted by CupCake :

LOL. I need to start doing that from now on. This is the first time that I am able to talk about my political views, usually hispanic people don't want to hear anything that has to do with W, I guess it is because of some of the immigration laws. To be honest I know it is hard to be able to become legal in this country, but I think there are things that are more important than that. Like having values and moral, that is what we need. There is too many people out there that don't have any direction in their lives and they think it is ok, but it is not, they always think it is somebody else's fault but theirs. I think the problem is not the different of opinion on certain fields, I think it is the fact that W doesn't have any trouble when it comes to share his faith and believes and I think that most democrats desagree, because of that, too bad people feel uncomfortable when somebody is able to talk about what it is right. You can't be a religious person and me a democrat at the same time, it doesn't work that way.

Your political astuteness continues to impress me, CupCake. There is nothing like an intelligent immigrant who fully appreciates America to remind us of how shallow we can sometimes become regarding our country and our precious freedoms.

Yes, Democrats have a huge problem with President Bush in large part because of his moral clarity which is based on his often-professed faith in God and Christ. You're correct that people who refuse to admit to any real moral boundries become very uncomfortable when they are faced with a person like President Bush who does have these moral boundries of right and wrong and acts on them. The Democrats (liberals, leftists) always call it 'black and white' and much prefer the 'grey' area - where nothing is ever 'right' or 'wrong'. This is why they can easily condemn unborn children to death in the womb via abortion and call that a 'right' yet will fight viciously against the imposition of the death penalty for a convicted mass murderer. The Democrat party has become almost exclusively secular and now sees 'religion' - especially Christianity - as a 'problem'. Democrat politicians and their media spokesmen often condemn the president's faith and moral clarity as 'dangerous' - when they're not mocking it.

That you see this, clearly, gives me hope for the future as well as this election, because if you see it, other's do, too.

[rbohm]

something else liberals do is try to create class and race warfare, especially people like jessie jackson and al sharpton. the more they can get the poor, and the lower middle class to hate the upper middle class and the rich, and the more they can get blacks and other minorities to hate whites(white males especially) the easier it is for them for them to get elected on promises that they will make things better for the poor and the minorities, and to soak the rich, and punish the white males of the country. they are even trying to create a divide between the man and the women of this country by saying that women dont have the same opportunities as men do. the reality though is that women do have the same opportunities, it is just that most women give them up to raise children, before getting back into the work place. they also lose out on the pay raises they would have gotten had they not had children, thus the perception that women make less than men do. liberals can spin, and skews statistics like you would not believe.