ON CLOUD 9!!!!! 815 HORSEPOWER!

Kevin Price · 09-22-2001, 02:58 PM

Well, as some of you may recall last June I finally got my motor back after 2 years of anticipation.

The day I was set to go to the track I was testing my line lock when noises erupted from the new engine. Further exploring I found a broken pushrod as a result of the motor not oiling at the top of the motor, negligence of the engine builder. Further inspection and disassambly it was found that:

1) Head gaskets were installed upside down
2) Connecting rods were on BACKWARDS
3) Oil line to the top of the motor was not connected to the right port
4) Incorrect intake was used for my application.
5) Oiling hole was not drilled at the back of the block thus not letting oil reach the cylinder heads

All of this money and all of these problems from a ???PROFESSIONAL??? engine builder (whos name I won't disclose unless someone is considering having any work done in Oklahoma City).

Anyway, I sent it all off to Bennett Racing in Alabama. Talked to John Bennett this morning and he just completed the dyno session that yielded:

815 hp and 600 lbs. of torque

Can you believe it?? This horsepower is the most they have seen out of a set-up such as mine by 40hp!!!

I don't know, I'm just happy that FINALLY this thing has come together and with the power levels it has. This should put me at the brink of 8's naturally aspirated in a 3000lb car, hope I can get it down the track!! (Good problem to have)

Anyway, hats off to John Bennett of Bennett Racing.

Sorry so long folks but I'm really happy right now and wanted to share my experiences with you. Time to upgrade my sig. now!

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SVO siamesed 351 stroked to 417ci,Yates heads, solid roller,Trans King glide and a little blue bottle
of giggle gas. My Car

[This message has been edited by Kevin Price (edited 09-22-2001).]

silver_pilate · 09-22-2001, 06:23 PM

HOLY ****!

Congrats on that new motor, Kevin. We know you've been waiting a long time on it. I hope you told that first engine builder what he could do with himself.

Anyway, that car is going to be insane. You gonna try it on the street for fun?

I've got plans in the works for a 4-cyl. - 393 conversion with a little help from a turbo. 'Course, that's still a few years off(gotta get the masters and get a job first).

Anyway, good luck, and keep us posted.

--nathan

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--silver_pilate

'91 GT, Built 306, Wolverine 1087 cam, ported Windsor Jr. Irons, and all the goodies...click the link to the left to see a full list of my mods...

Tried and True 302 Being Built to Outrun You! heh heh heh...
--Texas Panhandle--
Check out my site

lx mike · 09-22-2001, 07:02 PM

HOLY COW!

that sux!! after 2 years and to have that happen. is there anything you can do to recover your losses from there shoddy work?

Looks like Dan has some competition now!

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93-LX: 5 Speed, Flow's with H-Pipe, 3.73's, C&L 76MM Kit, Sub's and K&N.
14.722@ 98.24

Skyman · 09-22-2001, 07:03 PM

NICE NUMBERS! What rpm was that at? 7500 or so?

Glad you finally got someone competant working on that car!

Skyler

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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406-
TFS TW Heads, E-303, Edelbrock intake, 70mm TB, 73mm MAF, 24lb injectors, 1 5/8 shorties, Off Road H, 3 Chamber flows, Jaz Race seats, Back seat removed, sub-frames, Roll Cage, and a 80 shot of N20.
12.54@107.4 Motor
332RWHP, 350rwtq

Fox Body · 09-23-2001, 12:35 AM

CRAP!!!!! 815 hp, 600 ft/lbs torque!! That's just plain scary dude. Right now, I don't think I could handle a car like that. Even if I were just to crank it up, I'd probably get a heart attack from its response.

-----------------------------------------
351W-powered 1979 Ford Mustang notchback
Stock 5.8L under custom made 4" cowl, C4 w/ shift kit
Holley 750 cfm, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake
1 5/8" MAC shorty headers, Al driveshaft
2.5" Off road H-pipe, 2-chamber Flowmasters
Front: 225/60/15, Rear: 255/60/15 Eagle GT II
Weld wheels (15x6;15x8), 8.8" Rear w/ 3.55s
14 x 4” K&N air filter. Only a couple of weeks b4 Project FOX begins!!!

"Red, thou art my companion. Hasten now your quickened metamorphosis to Green that I may conquer all who dare abide there beside me. May they be left thither behind burnt black." ---Fox Body

1BAD89 · 09-23-2001, 03:19 AM

Kevin those are Awesome #'s!!! Congrats! If you could send me a private message with that place in OKC, I would like to just be aware, because I could possibly have then do motorwork. Hey if I give you sum cash money, will you pleaaaassssse give me a ride in it? LoL You can strap me to the roll cage, since you probaly only have one seat?
Anyway I'm really really IMPRESSED, good luck with your car. Justin

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1989 GT, 3:55's, full exhaust, 4 in. hood, Pro 5.0, Have many other parts 4 sale. All parts for sale now.

2000 Camaro SS-A4, 13.7's bone stock.

1989 Chevy S-10, EX. Cab-383(500+hp on motor), trick flow heads, trick flow pistons, etc... autometer phantom gauges, "built" 700R4, roll cage, lexan back window, corbeau seats, R.H.S. 5 harnesses, Fuel cell, convo pro wheels, 15x14's with 29x18.5 M/T'S on back, 15x4's on front, nitrous, and so much more!

ed1371 · 09-23-2001, 03:48 AM

holy **** !

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My Mustang
91 LX Conv. 52,000 orig mi. Hurst shifter,King Cobra clutch, 3.55 grs, NOS 150 kit, MSD 6al, MSD timing control, malory coil, pullies, adj fuel reg, BBK 70mm tb, Pro-m 75mm maf, battery in trunk, JBA: shorties,subs,strut tower brc, Comp eng. 6 point cage, dynomax 2 1/2" exhaust, Hotchkis lower cntrl arms, MAC cold air kit, off road h pipe. BFG 275/50/15 Drag radials

Kevin Price · 09-23-2001, 10:49 AM

Nathan - I will play with it on the street, but not too much as I won't have an air cleaner and it will probably only get .5 miles per gallon with th 1150 carb I will now be running.

lx mike

Believe me, I wish there were a way but I think it would be one persons word against another. I will spread the word about this idiot, hopefully that will make a difference. At least that will make me feel better.

Skyman

Actually, this made peak horsepower at 8000 rpm but carried well all the way up to 8400. I will have the dyno figures Monday but it carried its torque and about 750 hp from 6400 to 7500. Looking forward to seeing the actual numbers.

1BAD89

I will send you the P.M. with the guys business. Sure I will give you a ride and no you won't need to pay me. Actually my sister lives in Tulsa and I plan to go down some time and run my car. Will hook up and go for a spin. And no, won't have to strap you to the roll cage as I still have the full interior in the car, even the heater. I have a feeling I will be dumping the heater soon though.

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SVO siamesed 351 stroked to 417ci,Yates heads, solid roller,Trans King glide and a little blue bottle
of giggle gas. My Car

Unit 5302 · 09-23-2001, 12:03 PM

Kevin, was that the same shop we were talking about that did my uncle's Boss 302 engine? His Boss took out an oil pump early on, and generally never did perform the way he thought it should.

Makes me wonder.

Kell

Kevin Price · 09-23-2001, 01:27 PM

Kell - I remember that now and yes it is the same guy. So you're saying the 302 has had problems also? Totally torques me off. I know what you mean about not performing the way it should. My motor dynoed at his place with 658hp. Bennett got the 815hp by changing the cam and intake, nothing else to significant. That is a difference of 157.

Sorry to hear about that Kell.

PGkelly · 09-23-2001, 05:02 PM

dudes—take some legal action.

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If it ain't broke, make it go faster

AOL: MCVillain45

Unit 5302 · 09-23-2001, 05:15 PM

I'll let my Uncle know about this. He actually sold the Boss because he wasn't happy with the engines performance, so there isn't much left for him to do. I will pass the information along to him though.

He had been searching for a Boss for years, probably about 15 years to be exact, and seriously looking for at least 5. I really hope he didn't sell his dream because of an engine builder making it not live up to expectations.

Thanks for the info Kevin.

My dad has also had terrible luck with engine builders, he had his (now my) 427 rebuilt by a pro who put the cam bearings in backwards. You can imagine what the sudden loss of all oil pressure led to. Yep burnt rods. I myself have had very poor luck with "the pros" on stuff as simple as a clutch job some years ago.

Stang Runner · 09-30-2001, 06:24 PM

Was that on the giggle gas? if so How much?

Kevin Price · 10-01-2001, 08:08 AM

Stang Runner

No, that is the motor only. I won't put any nitrous on until next year, if any at all. The motor will be here today and I will try and get some pictures posted in a day or two

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SVO siamesed 351 stroked to 417ci,Yates heads, solid roller,Trans King glide and a little blue bottle
of giggle gas. My Car

10-01-2001, 08:22 AM

whoa that's wicked & full interior good lord iwould like to hear that bad boy rumble,can't wait to mod my own ride, but i don't think i will be knocking off those number's good luck. i would like to see it scream down the track.
unit5302 pm me a guy i work with has 2 70 boss car's he is selling one uugghh itold him to let me knowif he ever decided to but he may have some things laying around i saw 4 or 5 engine's in his garage did not get to ck them out though but he is a parts pack rat.
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[This message has been edited by mustang marty gt (edited 10-01-2001).]

09-22-2001, 02:58 PM	#1
Kevin Price Registered Member Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Oxford, KS Posts: 935	ON CLOUD 9!!!!! 815 HORSEPOWER! Well, as some of you may recall last June I finally got my motor back after 2 years of anticipation. The day I was set to go to the track I was testing my line lock when noises erupted from the new engine. Further exploring I found a broken pushrod as a result of the motor not oiling at the top of the motor, negligence of the engine builder. Further inspection and disassambly it was found that: 1) Head gaskets were installed upside down 2) Connecting rods were on BACKWARDS 3) Oil line to the top of the motor was not connected to the right port 4) Incorrect intake was used for my application. 5) Oiling hole was not drilled at the back of the block thus not letting oil reach the cylinder heads All of this money and all of these problems from a ???PROFESSIONAL??? engine builder (whos name I won't disclose unless someone is considering having any work done in Oklahoma City). Anyway, I sent it all off to Bennett Racing in Alabama. Talked to John Bennett this morning and he just completed the dyno session that yielded: 815 hp and 600 lbs. of torque Can you believe it?? This horsepower is the most they have seen out of a set-up such as mine by 40hp!!! I don't know, I'm just happy that FINALLY this thing has come together and with the power levels it has. This should put me at the brink of 8's naturally aspirated in a 3000lb car, hope I can get it down the track!! (Good problem to have) Anyway, hats off to John Bennett of Bennett Racing. Sorry so long folks but I'm really happy right now and wanted to share my experiences with you. Time to upgrade my sig. now! ------------------ SVO siamesed 351 stroked to 417ci,Yates heads, solid roller,Trans King glide and a little blue bottle of giggle gas. My Car [This message has been edited by Kevin Price (edited 09-22-2001).]

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09-22-2001, 06:23 PM	#2
silver_pilate DURKA DURKA!! Join Date: Sep 1997 Location: Lubbock, TX...(TX panhandle) Posts: 1,418	HOLY ****! Congrats on that new motor, Kevin. We know you've been waiting a long time on it. I hope you told that first engine builder what he could do with himself. Anyway, that car is going to be insane. You gonna try it on the street for fun? I've got plans in the works for a 4-cyl. - 393 conversion with a little help from a turbo. 'Course, that's still a few years off(gotta get the masters and get a job first). Anyway, good luck, and keep us posted. --nathan ------------------ --silver_pilate '91 GT, Built 306, Wolverine 1087 cam, ported Windsor Jr. Irons, and all the goodies...click the link to the left to see a full list of my mods... Tried and True 302 Being Built to Outrun You! heh heh heh... --Texas Panhandle-- Check out my site

09-22-2001, 07:02 PM	#3
lx mike Undescribable Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Ft Myers Fla Posts: 1,539	HOLY COW! that sux!! after 2 years and to have that happen. is there anything you can do to recover your losses from there shoddy work? Looks like Dan has some competition now! ------------------ 93-LX: 5 Speed, Flow's with H-Pipe, 3.73's, C&L 76MM Kit, Sub's and K&N. 14.722@ 98.24

09-22-2001, 07:03 PM	#4
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	NICE NUMBERS! What rpm was that at? 7500 or so? Glad you finally got someone competant working on that car! Skyler ------------------ -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS TW Heads, E-303, Edelbrock intake, 70mm TB, 73mm MAF, 24lb injectors, 1 5/8 shorties, Off Road H, 3 Chamber flows, Jaz Race seats, Back seat removed, sub-frames, Roll Cage, and a 80 shot of N20. 12.54@107.4 Motor *332RWHP, 350rwtq*

09-23-2001, 12:35 AM	#5
Fox Body Mustang Maniac Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: GA, U.S.A Posts: 2,266	CRAP!!!!! 815 hp, 600 ft/lbs torque!! That's just plain scary dude. Right now, I don't think I could handle a car like that. Even if I were just to crank it up, I'd probably get a heart attack from its response. ----------------------------------------- 351W-powered 1979 Ford Mustang notchback Stock 5.8L under custom made 4" cowl, C4 w/ shift kit Holley 750 cfm, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake 1 5/8" MAC shorty headers, Al driveshaft 2.5" Off road H-pipe, 2-chamber Flowmasters Front: 225/60/15, Rear: 255/60/15 Eagle GT II Weld wheels (15x6;15x8), 8.8" Rear w/ 3.55s 14 x 4” K&N air filter. Only a couple of weeks b4 Project FOX* begins!!!* "Red, thou art my companion. Hasten now your quickened metamorphosis to Green that I may conquer all who dare abide there beside me. May they be left thither behind burnt black." ---Fox Body

09-23-2001, 03:19 AM	#6
1BAD89 Tubbed and Juiced Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma Posts: 1,861	Kevin those are Awesome #'s!!! Congrats! If you could send me a private message with that place in OKC, I would like to just be aware, because I could possibly have then do motorwork. Hey if I give you sum cash money, will you pleaaaassssse give me a ride in it? LoL You can strap me to the roll cage, since you probaly only have one seat? Anyway I'm really really IMPRESSED, good luck with your car. Justin ------------------ 1989 GT, 3:55's, full exhaust, 4 in. hood, Pro 5.0, Have many other parts 4 sale. All parts for sale now. 2000 Camaro SS-A4, 13.7's bone stock. 1989 Chevy S-10, EX. Cab-383(500+hp on motor), trick flow heads, trick flow pistons, etc... autometer phantom gauges, "built" 700R4, roll cage, lexan back window, corbeau seats, R.H.S. 5 harnesses, Fuel cell, convo pro wheels, 15x14's with 29x18.5 M/T'S on back, 15x4's on front, nitrous, and so much more!

09-23-2001, 03:48 AM	#7
ed1371 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2000 Posts: 469	holy **** ! ------------------ My Mustang 91 LX Conv. 52,000 orig mi. Hurst shifter,King Cobra clutch, 3.55 grs, NOS 150 kit, MSD 6al, MSD timing control, malory coil, pullies, adj fuel reg, BBK 70mm tb, Pro-m 75mm maf, battery in trunk, JBA: shorties,subs,strut tower brc, Comp eng. 6 point cage, dynomax 2 1/2" exhaust, Hotchkis lower cntrl arms, MAC cold air kit, off road h pipe. BFG 275/50/15 Drag radials

09-23-2001, 10:49 AM	#8
Kevin Price Registered Member Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Oxford, KS Posts: 935	Nathan - I will play with it on the street, but not too much as I won't have an air cleaner and it will probably only get .5 miles per gallon with th 1150 carb I will now be running. lx mike Believe me, I wish there were a way but I think it would be one persons word against another. I will spread the word about this idiot, hopefully that will make a difference. At least that will make me feel better. Skyman Actually, this made peak horsepower at 8000 rpm but carried well all the way up to 8400. I will have the dyno figures Monday but it carried its torque and about 750 hp from 6400 to 7500. Looking forward to seeing the actual numbers. 1BAD89 I will send you the P.M. with the guys business. Sure I will give you a ride and no you won't need to pay me. Actually my sister lives in Tulsa and I plan to go down some time and run my car. Will hook up and go for a spin. And no, won't have to strap you to the roll cage as I still have the full interior in the car, even the heater. I have a feeling I will be dumping the heater soon though. ------------------ SVO siamesed 351 stroked to 417ci,Yates heads, solid roller,Trans King glide and a little blue bottle of giggle gas. My Car

09-23-2001, 12:03 PM	#9
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	Kevin, was that the same shop we were talking about that did my uncle's Boss 302 engine? His Boss took out an oil pump early on, and generally never did perform the way he thought it should. Makes me wonder. Kell

09-23-2001, 01:27 PM	#10
Kevin Price Registered Member Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Oxford, KS Posts: 935	Kell - I remember that now and yes it is the same guy. So you're saying the 302 has had problems also? Totally torques me off. I know what you mean about not performing the way it should. My motor dynoed at his place with 658hp. Bennett got the 815hp by changing the cam and intake, nothing else to significant. That is a difference of 157. Sorry to hear about that Kell.

09-23-2001, 05:02 PM	#11
PGkelly Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 274	dudes—take some legal action. ------------------ If it ain't broke, make it go faster AOL: MCVillain45

09-23-2001, 05:15 PM	#12
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	I'll let my Uncle know about this. He actually sold the Boss because he wasn't happy with the engines performance, so there isn't much left for him to do. I will pass the information along to him though. He had been searching for a Boss for years, probably about 15 years to be exact, and seriously looking for at least 5. I really hope he didn't sell his dream because of an engine builder making it not live up to expectations. Thanks for the info Kevin. My dad has also had terrible luck with engine builders, he had his (now my) 427 rebuilt by a pro who put the cam bearings in backwards. You can imagine what the sudden loss of all oil pressure led to. Yep burnt rods. I myself have had very poor luck with "the pros" on stuff as simple as a clutch job some years ago.

09-30-2001, 06:24 PM	#13
Stang Runner Registered Member Join Date: Jun 1999 Location: Walker, MI, USA Posts: 1,202	Was that on the giggle gas? if so How much?

10-01-2001, 08:08 AM	#14
Kevin Price Registered Member Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Oxford, KS Posts: 935	Stang Runner No, that is the motor only. I won't put any nitrous on until next year, if any at all. The motor will be here today and I will try and get some pictures posted in a day or two ------------------ SVO siamesed 351 stroked to 417ci,Yates heads, solid roller,Trans King glide and a little blue bottle of giggle gas. My Car

10-01-2001, 08:22 AM	#15
mustang marty gt Guest Posts: n/a	whoa that's wicked & full interior good lord iwould like to hear that bad boy rumble,can't wait to mod my own ride, but i don't think i will be knocking off those number's good luck. i would like to see it scream down the track. unit5302 pm me a guy i work with has 2 70 boss car's he is selling one uugghh itold him to let me knowif he ever decided to but he may have some things laying around i saw 4 or 5 engine's in his garage did not get to ck them out though but he is a parts pack rat. ------------------ [This message has been edited by mustang marty gt (edited 10-01-2001).]