Who believes..

RAINSTANG · 03-16-2002, 09:29 PM

Ford will actually produce a 390HP 2003 Cobra? After the much anticipated and extremely disappointing release of the Bullit does Ford really get it. The Bullit was touted to be a solid 275HP 4.6 yet barely hits 265HP. Why did big blue wait until the Camaro and Firebird are being put out to pasture to release a "real" production 390HP Mustang. Still scared of the LS1? I think it will be the same old crap, just like the Bullit. Oh and let's not forget the 1999 Cobra and all of it's recalls required just to get it to it's factory stated 320HP rating. Ford should have pulled thier head out of thier (.) years ago. What do we do with a 390HP stang in 2003 when the bowties & birds are gone? Go out and humiliate a bunch of slammed Civics? Woo Hoo!

bigwhitecobra · 03-16-2002, 09:43 PM

Wow, no more Camaro's or Firebird's? Kick azz. Where did they all go?

Yes, they are producing the 390 horse Cobra. Too bad that it will be compared to the Vette, and of course, Car and Driver, Road and Track, MotorTrend, etc. will all say that the 'Vette is soo much more of a car.

Later.

91GTturbo · 03-16-2002, 10:21 PM

Why compare every new mustang against one bad year? The 2001's cobras are making their advertised hp, what makes you think the 2003's want?

As far as where are all the lS1 powered cars, what, you think just because they've quit making them, their suddenly going to disappear from the face of the earth.

Mr 5 0 · 03-17-2002, 12:19 AM

Originally posted by RAINSTANG

Who really believes Ford will actually produce a 390HP 2003 Cobra?

I do.

After the much anticipated and extremely disappointing release of the Bullit does Ford really get it. The Bullit was touted to be a solid 275HP 4.6 yet barely hits 265HP.

Apples and Oranges comparison.
The Bullit is a special project, limited production car; the Cobra is a regular production model, although with somewhat limited production. A 10 HP difference is no huge deal.

Why did big blue wait until the Camaro and Firebird are being put out to pasture to release a "real" production 390HP Mustang.

Who cares?

Still scared of the LS1?

No.

I think it will be the same old crap, just like the Bullit.

Stop whining about what you don't even know yet. If you don't like the '03 Cobra, don't buy one. Problem solved.

Oh and let's not forget the 1999 Cobra and all of it's recalls required just to get it to it's factory stated 320HP rating.

Yeah, I'll sure never forget it. Keeps me awake nights, just remembering that terrible period in our lives.

Ford should have pulled thier head out of thier (.) years ago.

It spelled 'their' and what does that inane statement mean?

What do we do with a 390HP stang in 2003 when the bowties & birds are gone? Go out and humiliate a bunch of slammed Civics? Woo Hoo!

Gee, I dunno...enjoy driving it, maybe? Get real. You can't enjoy a 390 HP blown Cobra if you can't find a GM car to race? Please...spare me.

This is one big whine with almost no basis in fact. Lighten up.

Jeb_Bush_2000 · 03-17-2002, 12:35 AM

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What do we do with a 390HP stang in 2003 when the bowties & birds are gone?

Holy crap! You're right! Because, as we all know, YOU NEVER SEE ANY CARS MORE THAN A YEAR OLD ON THE ROAD.

Tony Frank · 03-17-2002, 02:07 PM

Stop whining about what you don't even know yet. If you don't like the '03 Cobra, don't buy one. Problem solved.

----i didnt think he was whining. just askin if they are actually gonna make a 390hp cobra.

It's spelled 'their' and what does that inane statement mean?

----this means that ford has always been under powered in comparrison to the bird.

This is one big whine with almost no basis in fact. Lighten up.

----Lighten up?????? your the one who is jumping all over him.

1969Mach1 · 03-17-2002, 03:49 PM

I got your back on this one Mr 5 0, I couldn't of said it better.
I still think the Z06 will be able to take us, obviously for it being smaller and 15 more hp. But who cares, I'm sure acouple mods will put up a good fight agaist it. Also there is a huge price difference. If you buy a car just for racing you mind as well buy a civic, strap on a whole lotta stickers, big *** wing, and let other cars try to race you.
I'm looking forward to the 2003 390Hp Cobra, I know I have no chance of affording it but I'm proud to say it's part of my cars family.

Mr 5 0 · 03-17-2002, 05:11 PM

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Originally posted by Tony Frank

Lighten up?????? your the one who is jumping all over him.

I responded to his comments - that I disagree with. That's how it works, Tony. He posts, then others reply. Simple as that.

'RAINSTANG' sounds like a guy who is p.o.'ed at Ford for not giving him the car he wants and now, when they finally do, all he does is complain...before the car has even been sold or tested!

Invalid complaints as far as I'm concerned, based on shaky evidence from past years and a generally anti-Ford bias- which he is entitled to - but others, you and me included, are just as entitled to dispute or at least disagree with.

Mustangbelle306 · 03-17-2002, 07:31 PM

Mr 5.0:

Despite your usually helpful responses and advice to those on this board, myself included, I feel that you were out of line in your response to Rainstang, especially as a staff member.

Sure, you are entitled to think he is a complete moron, and that his post is a waste of space...but like the rest of us, you are bound by rules that you YOURSELF enforce concerning flaming, etc. Despite your obvious stance of NOT agreeing with his predictions, I really don't see the need to tear him a new one, and in the same sentence play grammar checker.

I also don't think the mispelling of a word has anything to do with his views on Ford. Judging from your usual manner, I don't think you intended on coming off as harsh as you did--I just know my feelings would be hurt if you had responded in that attitude to a thread I started, especially since you are the one in charge of curbing arguments on the board, not starting them.

Belle.

RAINSTANG · 03-17-2002, 08:09 PM

I'm not "whining" about anything and hey Mr. 5.0.. why dont you pull the board out of your butt (gee, I wonder if he'll let me post that?) and look at Ford's claims from the past and how they've not lived up to them. I'm willing to bet that I've been building and driving Fords since before you were a twinkle in your daddy's eye. You all want to get po'ed at my question? Fine, I'm just looking for some good feedback not a bunch of BS from some hack that just happens to drive a Mustang. Thanks Tony, you seem to be the only one that got it. And, oh by the way MR. 5.0, dont worry, if I don't like the 03 Cobra I won't buy it. I leave that up to guys like you.

RAINSTANG · 03-17-2002, 09:12 PM

Oh yeah.. one other thing MR. numb nuts 5.0: 10Hp is nothing?

Tony Frank · 03-17-2002, 10:34 PM

lmfao
THATS WHAT IM TALKIN ABOUT

6T9PONY · 03-17-2002, 10:39 PM

1BAD89 · 03-17-2002, 11:05 PM

Hey man, why don't we just tone it down a little? That was un-called for no matter who it was to. I would think that it would be your best interest to go back and edit that post...I'm just trying to help you out.

Come on guys? Enough already. I see all your point of views, but let's just mellow out a bit.

srv1 · 03-17-2002, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1BAD89

Hey man, why don't we just tone it down a little? That was un-called for no matter who it was to. I would think that it would be your best interest to go back and edit that post...I'm just trying to help you out.

Come on guys? Enough already. I see all your point of views, but let's just mellow out a bit.

you know what Bad? your right! it did get a little out of hand. but i wont edit it, i will let Mr. 5.0 do it. it makes him feel like he has control, like a god. but yeah bad, your right, over did it.

go ahead puppet master, do your thing!

tireburner163 · 03-17-2002, 11:27 PM

Now we know why SRV1 got voted Biggest pain in the ***

Rainstang came on here basicly bashing Ford. Mr 5.0 responded in the same manner as I would have done. If you don't like Ford's don't buy them. But don't come on here and bash them.

RainStang: What's your problem? You base you arguement on the Bullit and the 99 Cobra. The Bullit was designed to look good and get PR, not go fast. True the 99 Cobra was over rated, but the 01's are better than ever and under rated(from what I've seen).

". What do we do with a 390HP stang in 2003 when the bowties & birds are gone? Go out and humiliate a bunch of slammed Civics? "

Yea, all LS-1's dissapeared the day Chevy stoped making them. We'll never seen another one again

10Hp is nothing?

If you can feel a 10hp difference on the ole' butt dyno, you've got one sensitive ***. You won't be able to tell between 265 and 275.

And, oh by the way MR. 5.0, dont worry, if I don't like the 03 Cobra I won't buy it. I leave that up to guys like you.

What, they guys that actully desearve to own a stang?

You all want to get po'ed at my question?

I can't speak for Mr 5.0, but I'm not PO'd about your question. I'm PO'd about the load of crap that came after.

Belle: I see no post where Mr. 5.0 flamed. He simply stated his opinon(in a manner that I have seen countless other members do before). SRV1 and RainStang, however, have flamed.

srv1 · 03-17-2002, 11:35 PM

why would RAINSTANG bashem if he owns one? besides, cars are alot of money these days and maybe he wants to be sure he gets his moneys worth!

besides Tireburner, you voted for me on PITA! what did you expect? im just shocked that i didnt get 13 as well

oh well, life goes on.......

tireburner163 · 03-17-2002, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by srv1
you know what Bad? your right! it did get a little out of hand. but i wont edit it, i will let Mr. 5.0 do it. it makes him feel like he has control, like a god. but yeah bad, your right, over did it.

go ahead puppet master, do your thing!

Gezz, what crawled up your butt and died?

srv1 · 03-17-2002, 11:40 PM

nothing at all. most people think that im a raging lunatic. why, i dont know. im not mad at all.

1969Mach1 · 03-17-2002, 11:48 PM

Wow I agreed with some of what Mr 5 0 was saying but geese I wasn't willing to start a arguement on it. I do agree he was alitte rough but I seen how he got the impression that RAINSTANG was being negative. Wow I am going to step down now and just watch. This is a fight for the tough ones, but honestly remember guys we're all friends here no need to call names.

If you don't like it find a nice way of disagreeing. A opinion is based on what you feel, there is no right or wrong answer.

03-16-2002, 09:29 PM	#1
RAINSTANG Registered Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Portland, OR, USA Posts: 98	Who believes.. Ford will actually produce a 390HP 2003 Cobra? After the much anticipated and extremely disappointing release of the Bullit does Ford really get it. The Bullit was touted to be a solid 275HP 4.6 yet barely hits 265HP. Why did big blue wait until the Camaro and Firebird are being put out to pasture to release a "real" production 390HP Mustang. Still scared of the LS1? I think it will be the same old crap, just like the Bullit. Oh and let's not forget the 1999 Cobra and all of it's recalls required just to get it to it's factory stated 320HP rating. Ford should have pulled thier head out of thier (.) years ago. What do we do with a 390HP stang in 2003 when the bowties & birds are gone? Go out and humiliate a bunch of slammed Civics? Woo Hoo! __________________ 92GT,K&N, air silencer removed, MAC equal length shorty headers,9mm FMS wires, 2 chamber Flowmasters, Hurst Billet Plus,King Cobra clutch,FMS aluminum drive shaft,FMS 3:55's, KYB struts, shocks & quads.

03-16-2002, 10:21 PM	#3
91GTturbo Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Valdese, NC Posts: 361	Why compare every new mustang against one bad year? The 2001's cobras are making their advertised hp, what makes you think the 2003's want? As far as where are all the lS1 powered cars, what, you think just because they've quit making them, their suddenly going to disappear from the face of the earth. __________________ 91 single turbo vert

03-17-2002, 12:19 AM	#4
Mr 5 0 Conservative Individualist Join Date: May 1997 Location: Wherever I need to be Posts: 7,487	Re: Who believes.. Originally posted by RAINSTANG Who really believes Ford will actually produce a 390HP 2003 Cobra? I do. After the much anticipated and extremely disappointing release of the Bullit does Ford really get it. The Bullit was touted to be a solid 275HP 4.6 yet barely hits 265HP. Apples and Oranges comparison. The Bullit is a special project, limited production car; the Cobra is a regular production model, although with somewhat limited production. A 10 HP difference is no huge deal. Why did big blue wait until the Camaro and Firebird are being put out to pasture to release a "real" production 390HP Mustang. Who cares? Still scared of the LS1? No. I think it will be the same old crap, just like the Bullit. Stop whining about what you don't even know yet. If you don't like the '03 Cobra, don't buy one. Problem solved. Oh and let's not forget the 1999 Cobra and all of it's recalls required just to get it to it's factory stated 320HP rating. Yeah, I'll sure never forget it. Keeps me awake nights, just remembering that terrible period in our lives. Ford should have pulled thier head out of thier (.) years ago. It spelled 'their' and what does that inane statement mean? What do we do with a 390HP stang in 2003 when the bowties & birds are gone? Go out and humiliate a bunch of slammed Civics? Woo Hoo! Gee, I dunno...enjoy driving it, maybe? Get real. You can't enjoy a 390 HP blown Cobra if you can't find a GM car to race? Please...spare me. This is one big whine with almost no basis in fact. Lighten up.

03-17-2002, 02:07 PM	#6
Tony Frank Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Brooklyn originally, but Grand Rapids now Posts: 309	Stop whining about what you don't even know yet. If you don't like the '03 Cobra, don't buy one. Problem solved. ----i didnt think he was whining. just askin if they are actually gonna make a 390hp cobra. It's spelled 'their' and what does that inane statement mean? ----this means that ford has always been under powered in comparrison to the bird. This is one big whine with almost no basis in fact. Lighten up. ----Lighten up?????? your the one who is jumping all over him. __________________ Grand Valley State University Senior Accounting and Finance Major 1985 Mustang GT 19,000 ORIGINAL miles, E-303 cam, edelbrock performer RPM intake, holley 600 cfm carb, MAC headers, windage tray, 8.8 rear end with 4.10 gears, 4"cowl hood, 5lug conversion, 04 Mach1 wheels. http://www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/moi-display.cgi?1501

03-17-2002, 03:49 PM	#7
1969Mach1 HEY I CAN SET A NAME NOW! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,556	I got your back on this one Mr 5 0, I couldn't of said it better. I still think the Z06 will be able to take us, obviously for it being smaller and 15 more hp. But who cares, I'm sure acouple mods will put up a good fight agaist it. Also there is a huge price difference. If you buy a car just for racing you mind as well buy a civic, strap on a whole lotta stickers, big * wing, and let other cars try to race you. I'm looking forward to the 2003 390Hp Cobra, I know I have no chance of affording it but I'm proud to say it's part of my cars family. __________________ 1969 Mustang Mach 1**Sold 351-4V Windsor, 4 Speed MACH 1 - Moving At The Speed Of Sound. 1979 Mustang Indianapolis 500 Pace Car For Sale - Email me for Info 302-2V, 3-Speed Auto One of 2,106 made One of 405 sent to Canada. Yes those are caution lights, and No you can't pass me when there on. Ricer Hater's Club - Member #4

03-16-2002, 09:43 PM	#2
bigwhitecobra Huh? Whatcha said? Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 1,073	Wow, no more Camaro's or Firebird's? Kick azz. Where did they all go? Yes, they are producing the 390 horse Cobra. Too bad that it will be compared to the Vette, and of course, Car and Driver, Road and Track, MotorTrend, etc. will all say that the 'Vette is soo much more of a car. Later.

03-17-2002, 07:31 PM	#9
Mustangbelle306 Yay for Chickys Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,532	Mr 5.0: Despite your usually helpful responses and advice to those on this board, myself included, I feel that you were out of line in your response to Rainstang, especially as a staff member. Sure, you are entitled to think he is a complete moron, and that his post is a waste of space...but like the rest of us, you are bound by rules that you YOURSELF enforce concerning flaming, etc. Despite your obvious stance of NOT agreeing with his predictions, I really don't see the need to tear him a new one, and in the same sentence play grammar checker. I also don't think the mispelling of a word has anything to do with his views on Ford. Judging from your usual manner, I don't think you intended on coming off as harsh as you did--I just know my feelings would be hurt if you had responded in that attitude to a thread I started, especially since you are the one in charge of curbing arguments on the board, not starting them. Belle.

03-17-2002, 08:09 PM	#10
RAINSTANG Registered Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Portland, OR, USA Posts: 98	I'm not "whining" about anything and hey Mr. 5.0.. why dont you pull the board out of your butt (gee, I wonder if he'll let me post that?) and look at Ford's claims from the past and how they've not lived up to them. I'm willing to bet that I've been building and driving Fords since before you were a twinkle in your daddy's eye. You all want to get po'ed at my question? Fine, I'm just looking for some good feedback not a bunch of BS from some hack that just happens to drive a Mustang. Thanks Tony, you seem to be the only one that got it. And, oh by the way MR. 5.0, dont worry, if I don't like the 03 Cobra I won't buy it. I leave that up to guys like you. __________________ 92GT,K&N, air silencer removed, MAC equal length shorty headers,9mm FMS wires, 2 chamber Flowmasters, Hurst Billet Plus,King Cobra clutch,FMS aluminum drive shaft,FMS 3:55's, KYB struts, shocks & quads.

03-17-2002, 09:12 PM	#11
RAINSTANG Registered Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Portland, OR, USA Posts: 98	Oh yeah.. one other thing MR. numb nuts 5.0: 10Hp is nothing? __________________ 92GT,K&N, air silencer removed, MAC equal length shorty headers,9mm FMS wires, 2 chamber Flowmasters, Hurst Billet Plus,King Cobra clutch,FMS aluminum drive shaft,FMS 3:55's, KYB struts, shocks & quads.

03-17-2002, 10:34 PM	#12
Tony Frank Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Brooklyn originally, but Grand Rapids now Posts: 309	lmfao THATS WHAT IM TALKIN ABOUT __________________ Grand Valley State University Senior Accounting and Finance Major 1985 Mustang GT 19,000 ORIGINAL miles, E-303 cam, edelbrock performer RPM intake, holley 600 cfm carb, MAC headers, windage tray, 8.8 rear end with 4.10 gears, 4"cowl hood, 5lug conversion, 04 Mach1 wheels. http://www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/moi-display.cgi?1501

03-17-2002, 10:39 PM	#13
6T9PONY All about the Windsor. Join Date: Feb 2000 Posts: 2,052

03-17-2002, 11:05 PM	#14
1BAD89 Tubbed and Juiced Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma Posts: 1,861	Hey man, why don't we just tone it down a little? That was un-called for no matter who it was to. I would think that it would be your best interest to go back and edit that post...I'm just trying to help you out. Come on guys? Enough already. I see all your point of views, but let's just mellow out a bit.

03-17-2002, 11:27 PM	#16
tireburner163 It's a lot like a race car Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Meridian, MS Posts: 4,130	Now we know why SRV1 got voted Biggest pain in the * Rainstang came on here basicly bashing Ford. Mr 5.0 responded in the same manner as I would have done. If you don't like Ford's don't buy them. But don't come on here and bash them. RainStang*: What's your problem? You base you arguement on the Bullit and the 99 Cobra. The Bullit was designed to look good and get PR, not go fast. True the 99 Cobra was over rated, but the 01's are better than ever and under rated(from what I've seen). ". What do we do with a 390HP stang in 2003 when the bowties & birds are gone? Go out and humiliate a bunch of slammed Civics? "* Yea, all LS-1's dissapeared the day Chevy stoped making them. We'll never seen another one again 10Hp is nothing? If you can feel a 10hp difference on the ole' butt dyno, you've got one sensitive **. You won't be able to tell between 265 and 275. And, oh by the way MR. 5.0, dont worry, if I don't like the 03 Cobra I won't buy it. I leave that up to guys like you.* What, they guys that actully desearve to own a stang? You all want to get po'ed at my question? I can't speak for Mr 5.0, but I'm not PO'd about your question. I'm PO'd about the load of crap that came after. Belle: I see no post where Mr. 5.0 flamed. He simply stated his opinon(in a manner that I have seen countless other members do before). SRV1 and RainStang, however, have flamed. __________________ 1987 Buick T-type 1998 HD Electra Elide

03-17-2002, 11:35 PM	#17
srv1 Get down..... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Room 103 Posts: 2,095	why would RAINSTANG bashem if he owns one? besides, cars are alot of money these days and maybe he wants to be sure he gets his moneys worth! besides Tireburner, you voted for me on PITA! what did you expect? im just shocked that i didnt get 13 as well oh well, life goes on....... __________________ Cobra brakes are on! Finally..... ------------------------------------------------

03-17-2002, 11:40 PM	#19
srv1 Get down..... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Room 103 Posts: 2,095	nothing at all. most people think that im a raging lunatic. why, i dont know. im not mad at all. __________________ Cobra brakes are on! Finally..... ------------------------------------------------

03-17-2002, 11:48 PM	#20
1969Mach1 HEY I CAN SET A NAME NOW! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,556	Wow I agreed with some of what Mr 5 0 was saying but geese I wasn't willing to start a arguement on it. I do agree he was alitte rough but I seen how he got the impression that RAINSTANG was being negative. Wow I am going to step down now and just watch. This is a fight for the tough ones, but honestly remember guys we're all friends here no need to call names. If you don't like it find a nice way of disagreeing. A opinion is based on what you feel, there is no right or wrong answer. __________________ 1969 Mustang Mach 1Sold 351-4V Windsor, 4 Speed MACH 1 - Moving At The Speed Of Sound. 1979 Mustang Indianapolis 500 Pace Car For Sale - Email me for Info 302-2V, 3-Speed Auto One of 2,106 made One of 405 sent to Canada. Yes those are caution lights, and No you can't pass me when there on. Ricer Hater's Club - Member #4