next?

mustangman7777 · 02-04-2001, 12:25 AM

i need some help on what to buy next. i have about 1300 to spend on the parts and install. i have control arms, cold air, and my subframes are in the mail. However i dont where to go from here. i was thinking computer, or maybe some suspension. any ideas?

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black 94 cobra 5spd; 33,000 miles; 3.73 gears; flowmaster catback; bassani x-pipe w/cats steeda tri-ax shifter; K&N air filter; 14.2@97; 220.6 rwhp
(To buy next: subframe connectors, underdrive pullies, and cold air)

02-04-2001, 02:14 AM

Next thing you could do is,replace those restrictive factory "headers" to compliment the rest of your exhaust set-up that you have

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Paxton Blown 87GT

MDM · 02-04-2001, 03:38 AM

Sounds like chassis mods are coming along nicely. How about a set of machined heads+cam, a shot of nitrous with fuel system upgrade or a used blower kit to bring some more on the power side?

NoSlow5.0 · 02-04-2001, 11:57 AM

I agree. If I had $1300, AFR would be geting a little order for a set af heads right now'

Light Em Up!!!

93CobraR · 02-04-2001, 01:28 PM

I would either get a new set of heads or have your heads and intake fully ported with a cam. The GT-40 heads you have are great cast iron heads with some port work. I at least think a cam should be on the agenda.

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87 GT, 4 inch cowl hood,17x9 Cobra R's/255/45's,GT-40 heads,long tubes headers,h-pipe,Flows,BBK cold air, Mass air,70mm MAF, 1.7's, 1" spacer,underdrive pulleys,Pro 5.0, King Cobra, Adj. fuel Reg., Lakewood Lift Bars,50/50's,subframes, 4.10's.
Best time 13.012
Best MPH 104
Best 60' 1.816

Visit my site at:
http://www.geocities.com/cobrar93_2000/MyPage.html

mustangman7777 · 02-09-2001, 11:05 PM

i was trying to focus away from the power mods because of winter, but now that the worst is over and by the time i get the parts and have them installed it will be spring i am opne to them. what kind of cam or computer should i go for? what kind of heads? brands, web adresses, specs?

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black 94 cobra 5spd; 33,000 miles; 3.73 gears; flowmaster catback; bassani x-pipe w/cats steeda tri-ax shifter; K&N air filter; 14.2@97; 220.6 rwhp
(To buy next: subframe connectors, underdrive pullies, and cold air)

02-11-2001, 12:26 AM

If I had your setup I'd put some headers on there asap, I'd just want to see the difference. They'd have to help.. it seems to be the bottle neck at this time.

I have to wonder if a cam will make the 1.72s tap the valve covers. I'd probably get a cam but make sure I had enough $ left after all mods to get valve covers if they are needed.

Hmm.. a bigger maf would probably help as would porting the heads and intake. I agree with the others, those heads and intake still have alot of miles left in them.

Oh and a blower would be nice, of course.(maybe down the road?)

mustangman7777 · 02-11-2001, 01:11 PM

ok, you've convinced me...where can i get a set of ported heads that are resonably priced and what brands do you suggest.

DemonGT · 02-11-2001, 08:12 PM

i suggest AFR heads.....

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1991 GT,T-5,air silencer removed,racing clutch(previous owner put in so dont know what kind),K&N air filter,Aiwa deck,power acoustic amp,2 12" pianeers,UPDATE: Just got my Mac long tube headers and Cat-back

By the time summer comes ill have full Mac exhaust,new shifter knob and what ever else i can afford

Chris_H · 02-11-2001, 08:39 PM

Well since you are set on getting a set of heads, I personaly would go with the Trick Flows. I think I have seen a set for just under $800. If ou want me to see if I can find where they are just let me know.

Chris

Unit 5302 · 02-11-2001, 08:46 PM

I'd start with getting rid of the nasty Cobra computer system you've got. Go with a Pro-M 75mm MAF calibrated for 24lb injectors along with a GT computer to give you more aggressive fuel delivery and timing, along with a quicker open loop response time.

Then I'd focus in on a better cam, and porting the GT-40's.

Then save whatever was left for a supercharger.

02-11-2001, 11:46 PM

I agree with Unit, why spend money when you don't have to? You have good parts and you won't see the full benefit from new heads without spending more money on the other parts(maf, headers, cam, computer).

I'd get the other parts, port what you have and then maybe get a custom chip. I think that would be money much better spent.

But hey.. its your money.

Chris_H · 02-12-2001, 02:32 AM

Mustangman777

I tried to respond to your email, and use the one from here too and no such luck. So I'll just give you the link on here for those Trick Flow heads. You can get them at Hawaiiracing for $879. Lemme know if thats what you were looking for.

Chris
http://www.hawaiiracing.com/ford.htm

Stang_Crazy · 02-12-2001, 02:04 PM

Matt, I heard the computer in the 94 & 95 Cobra's are crap. Maybe you should try replacing that first before the heads...If you do go with the heads, wait till Bryan puts his AFR's on so you can get some input on them. Also, if you haven't already done so, you might want to try and posting this over in the Modular Board.

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91 GT AOD
Ultra Blue Metallic
3.73's, flows,
PI Converter, 14.71@91.78mph
2.11 60'

Unit 5302 · 02-12-2001, 05:04 PM

Why would he post in modular? He's got a 5.0. Not to sound harsh, but many pushrod guys "like myself" don't really know a bunch about the internals of the 4.6 mod motors, and many of them don't know the 5.0 well either.

dinomite · 02-12-2001, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mustangman7777:
i need some help on what to buy next. i have about 1300 to spend on the parts and install. i have control arms, cold air, and my subframes are in the mail. However i dont where to go from here. i was thinking computer, or maybe some suspension. any ideas?

I would say grab a strut tower brace to finish of your chassis, they are cheap (100). Also, get some headers to complete your exaust stuff. maybe an intake too

Stang_Crazy · 02-12-2001, 08:18 PM

Sorry about the brainfart UNIT. I just wasn't thinking when I posted earlier. Just a stupid mistake, thats all

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91 GT AOD
Ultra Blue Metallic
3.73's, flows,
PI Converter, 14.71@91.78mph
2.11 60'

Unit 5302 · 02-12-2001, 10:35 PM

Don't apologize to me, I've had enough brain farts lately myself. Like thinking the stock heads could make 310RWHP. I don't know where that came from. Whoops!

I was really rough on a couple of members just backing up my posts with info, but not really thinking about it. That's about 375hp, to get that on stock heads would take me a week of calculus equations and a tub of JB Weld!!!

Stang_Crazy · 02-13-2001, 01:45 AM

UUUHHHH!!! Calculus!!! Anyway, I found an old article from 5.0 mag that installed a Pro-M computer and 77mm mass air sensor. Granted it was on a Cobra that already ran a 12.51, but it got the car down to a 12.27. I wonder how much it would help a basically stock Cobra??

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91 GT AOD
Ultra Blue Metallic
3.73's, flows,
PI Converter, 14.71@91.78mph
2.11 60'

mustangman7777 · 02-14-2001, 12:30 PM

i cant find any junk yards or anythign like that to find a gt computer, does anyone know of a website i can goto to buy one? Also i dont know of any good places to have stuff installed/worked on...like getting stuff ported etc. anyone know of any near pittsburgh pa?

02-04-2001, 12:25 AM	#1
mustangman7777 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 1999 Posts: 541	next? i need some help on what to buy next. i have about 1300 to spend on the parts and install. i have control arms, cold air, and my subframes are in the mail. However i dont where to go from here. i was thinking computer, or maybe some suspension. any ideas? ------------------ black 94 cobra 5spd; 33,000 miles; 3.73 gears; flowmaster catback; bassani x-pipe w/cats steeda tri-ax shifter; K&N air filter; 14.2@97; 220.6 rwhp (To buy next: subframe connectors, underdrive pullies, and cold air)

02-04-2001, 02:14 AM	#2
Mustanguy Guest Posts: n/a	Next thing you could do is,replace those restrictive factory "headers" to compliment the rest of your exhaust set-up that you have ------------------ Paxton Blown 87GT

02-04-2001, 03:38 AM	#3
MDM Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Flemington, NJ USA Posts: 166	Sounds like chassis mods are coming along nicely. How about a set of machined heads+cam, a shot of nitrous with fuel system upgrade or a used blower kit to bring some more on the power side?

02-04-2001, 11:57 AM	#4
NoSlow5.0 YOU HAVE NO MARBLES!!!!!! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Jonesboro,Georgia,USA (Providence, Ri) Posts: 868	I agree. If I had $1300, AFR would be geting a little order for a set af heads right now' Light Em Up!!!

02-04-2001, 01:28 PM	#5
93CobraR Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 1,575	I would either get a new set of heads or have your heads and intake fully ported with a cam. The GT-40 heads you have are great cast iron heads with some port work. I at least think a cam should be on the agenda. ------------------ 87 GT, 4 inch cowl hood,17x9 Cobra R's/255/45's,GT-40 heads,long tubes headers,h-pipe,Flows,BBK cold air, Mass air,70mm MAF, 1.7's, 1" spacer,underdrive pulleys,Pro 5.0, King Cobra, Adj. fuel Reg., Lakewood Lift Bars,50/50's,subframes, 4.10's. Best time 13.012 Best MPH 104 Best 60' 1.816 Visit my site at: http://www.geocities.com/cobrar93_2000/MyPage.html

02-09-2001, 11:05 PM	#6
mustangman7777 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 1999 Posts: 541	i was trying to focus away from the power mods because of winter, but now that the worst is over and by the time i get the parts and have them installed it will be spring i am opne to them. what kind of cam or computer should i go for? what kind of heads? brands, web adresses, specs? ------------------ black 94 cobra 5spd; 33,000 miles; 3.73 gears; flowmaster catback; bassani x-pipe w/cats steeda tri-ax shifter; K&N air filter; 14.2@97; 220.6 rwhp (To buy next: subframe connectors, underdrive pullies, and cold air)

02-11-2001, 12:26 AM	#7
rbatson Guest Posts: n/a	If I had your setup I'd put some headers on there asap, I'd just want to see the difference. They'd have to help.. it seems to be the bottle neck at this time. I have to wonder if a cam will make the 1.72s tap the valve covers. I'd probably get a cam but make sure I had enough $ left after all mods to get valve covers if they are needed. Hmm.. a bigger maf would probably help as would porting the heads and intake. I agree with the others, those heads and intake still have alot of miles left in them. Oh and a blower would be nice, of course.(maybe down the road?)

02-11-2001, 01:11 PM	#8
mustangman7777 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 1999 Posts: 541	ok, you've convinced me...where can i get a set of ported heads that are resonably priced and what brands do you suggest.

02-11-2001, 08:12 PM	#9
DemonGT Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 879	i suggest AFR heads..... ------------------ 1991 GT,T-5,air silencer removed,racing clutch(previous owner put in so dont know what kind),K&N air filter,Aiwa deck,power acoustic amp,2 12" pianeers,UPDATE: Just got my Mac long tube headers and Cat-back By the time summer comes ill have full Mac exhaust,new shifter knob and what ever else i can afford

02-11-2001, 08:39 PM	#10
Chris_H Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: New Mexico Posts: 488	Well since you are set on getting a set of heads, I personaly would go with the Trick Flows. I think I have seen a set for just under $800. If ou want me to see if I can find where they are just let me know. Chris

02-11-2001, 08:46 PM	#11
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	I'd start with getting rid of the nasty Cobra computer system you've got. Go with a Pro-M 75mm MAF calibrated for 24lb injectors along with a GT computer to give you more aggressive fuel delivery and timing, along with a quicker open loop response time. Then I'd focus in on a better cam, and porting the GT-40's. Then save whatever was left for a supercharger.

02-11-2001, 11:46 PM	#12
rbatson Guest Posts: n/a	I agree with Unit, why spend money when you don't have to? You have good parts and you won't see the full benefit from new heads without spending more money on the other parts(maf, headers, cam, computer). I'd get the other parts, port what you have and then maybe get a custom chip. I think that would be money much better spent. But hey.. its your money.

02-12-2001, 02:32 AM	#13
Chris_H Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: New Mexico Posts: 488	Mustangman777 I tried to respond to your email, and use the one from here too and no such luck. So I'll just give you the link on here for those Trick Flow heads. You can get them at Hawaiiracing for $879. Lemme know if thats what you were looking for. Chris http://www.hawaiiracing.com/ford.htm

02-12-2001, 02:04 PM	#14
Stang_Crazy It's never clean enough! Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Shaler, PA Posts: 1,542	Matt, I heard the computer in the 94 & 95 Cobra's are crap. Maybe you should try replacing that first before the heads...If you do go with the heads, wait till Bryan puts his AFR's on so you can get some input on them. Also, if you haven't already done so, you might want to try and posting this over in the Modular Board. ------------------ 91 GT AOD Ultra Blue Metallic 3.73's, flows, PI Converter, 14.71@91.78mph 2.11 60'

02-12-2001, 05:04 PM	#15
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	Why would he post in modular? He's got a 5.0. Not to sound harsh, but many pushrod guys "like myself" don't really know a bunch about the internals of the 4.6 mod motors, and many of them don't know the 5.0 well either.

02-12-2001, 08:18 PM	#17
Stang_Crazy It's never clean enough! Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Shaler, PA Posts: 1,542	Sorry about the brainfart UNIT. I just wasn't thinking when I posted earlier. Just a stupid mistake, thats all ------------------ 91 GT AOD Ultra Blue Metallic 3.73's, flows, PI Converter, 14.71@91.78mph 2.11 60'

02-12-2001, 10:35 PM	#18
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	Don't apologize to me, I've had enough brain farts lately myself. Like thinking the stock heads could make 310RWHP. I don't know where that came from. Whoops! I was really rough on a couple of members just backing up my posts with info, but not really thinking about it. That's about 375hp, to get that on stock heads would take me a week of calculus equations and a tub of JB Weld!!!

02-13-2001, 01:45 AM	#19
Stang_Crazy It's never clean enough! Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Shaler, PA Posts: 1,542	UUUHHHH!!! Calculus!!! Anyway, I found an old article from 5.0 mag that installed a Pro-M computer and 77mm mass air sensor. Granted it was on a Cobra that already ran a 12.51, but it got the car down to a 12.27. I wonder how much it would help a basically stock Cobra?? ------------------ 91 GT AOD Ultra Blue Metallic 3.73's, flows, PI Converter, 14.71@91.78mph 2.11 60'

02-14-2001, 12:30 PM	#20
mustangman7777 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 1999 Posts: 541	i cant find any junk yards or anythign like that to find a gt computer, does anyone know of a website i can goto to buy one? Also i dont know of any good places to have stuff installed/worked on...like getting stuff ported etc. anyone know of any near pittsburgh pa?