Wanna see $100k in damage???

PKRWUD · 08-12-2002, 05:32 PM

This engine was in a top fuel dragster of a friend of a friend. It kinda went boom at 600'. The total cost involved in completely replacing the engine was just under $100k.

Take care,
~Chris

08-12-2002, 05:39 PM

whoa dude thats crazy.

devilman · 08-12-2002, 06:03 PM

damn, that is pretty crazy. i wish i had a motor like that, but i wouldn't want to blow mine up becuase i couldn't afford to replace it.

7up · 08-12-2002, 07:02 PM

I couldn't afford to replace the head gaskets on that thing.

Coupe Devil · 08-12-2002, 08:46 PM

Hey Chris, What are some of the more specifics on that baby. What block base is that, piston and rod info... I I assume its totally aftermarket DUH.. but what are some of the more specifics? Cubic Inches, Stoke.

Bradley

joe4speed · 08-13-2002, 12:08 AM

Wow!! OMG that looks painful!!!

PKRWUD · 08-13-2002, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pony_power_90
Hey Chris, What are some of the more specifics on that baby. What block base is that, piston and rod info... I I assume its totally aftermarket DUH.. but what are some of the more specifics? Cubic Inches, Stoke.

Bradley

The basic costs are:

TXF block $8000.00
Heads $8,000.00 - $10,000.00
Crank $3,500.00 - $5,000.00
Blower $5,000.00
Injector (Hat) $5,000.00
Rods and Pistons $5,000.00

Thats just for the big stuff..

Some interesting Top Fuel dragster facts:

* One dragster's 500-inch Hemi makes more horsepower then the first 8 rows at Daytona

* Under full throttle, a dragster engine consumes 1 1/2 gallons of nitro per second, the same rate of fuel consumption as a fully loaded 747 but with 4 times the energy volume.

* The supercharger takes more power to drive then a stock hemi makes.

* Even with nearly 3000 CFM of air being rammed in by the supercharger on overdrive, the fuel mixture is compressed into nearly-solid form before ignition. Cylinders run on the verge of hydraulic lock.

* Dual magnetos apply 44 amps to each spark plug. This is the output of an arc welder in each cylinder.

* At stoichiometric (exact) 1.7:1 air/fuel mixture (for nitro), the flame front of nitromethane measures 7050 degrees F.

* Nitromethane burns yellow. The spectacular white flame seen above the stacks at night is raw burning hydrogen, dissociated from atmospheric water vapor by the searing exhaust gases.

* Spark plug electrodes are totally consumed during a pass. After 1/2 way, the engine is dieseling from compression-plus the glow of exhaust valves at 1400 degrees F. The engine can only be shut down by cutting of it's fuel
flow.

* if spark momentarily fails early in the run, unburned nitro builds up in those cylinders and then explodes with a force that can blow cylinder heads off the block in pieces or blow the block in half.

* Dragsters twist the crank (torsionally) so far (20 degrees in the big end of the track) that sometimes cam lobes are ground offset from front to rear to re-phase the valve timing somewhere closer to synchronization with the pistons.

* To exceed 300mph in 4.5 seconds dragsters must accelerate at an average of over 4G's. But in reaching 200 mph well before 1/2 track, launch acceleration is closer to 8G's.

* If all the equipment is paid off, the crew worked for free, and for once NOTHING BLOWS UP, each run costs $1000.00 per second.

* Dragsters reach over 300 miles per hour before you have read this sentence.

Take care,
~Chris

Crazy Horse GT · 08-13-2002, 01:20 AM

that better not be the 429 your going to stick in my gt is it?

, just kidding

cyberstang5.0 · 08-13-2002, 08:11 AM

wow

That's some pretty cool and amazing info about topfuel

DAN-MAN · 08-13-2002, 12:49 PM

Ah, put some JB weld on it. It'll be ready for another pass.

Dan.

Coupe Devil · 08-13-2002, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DAN-MAN
Ah, put some JB weld on it. It'll be ready for another pass.

Dan.

Well I was thinking Liquid Steel but im sure JB would do just as good.
Bradley

joe4speed · 08-13-2002, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DAN-MAN
Ah, put some JB weld on it. It'll be ready for another pass.

Dan.

Hey man, I swear by duct tape! OK Maybe duct tape AND JB weld....

Coupe Devil · 08-13-2002, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by joe4speed

Hey man, I swear by duct tape! OK Maybe duct tape AND JB weld....

Cant forget wires ties ( zip ties ) Man if this combo wont fix it nothing will.

But whats the new thing im hearing bout? Something called "Welding" sounds like a farce to me...I mean c'mon, metal fusion.. Sheesh

Bradley

1969Mach1 · 08-13-2002, 02:04 PM

Chris, you make it sound faster then it really is. lol j/k that is freaking crazy!! I think I crapped myself just reading those stats.

§am.

The Deuce · 08-13-2002, 02:07 PM

That is some interesting stuff man. I knew their fuel was pretty flamable and they changed plugs every run.

Burning h2 though, that's a whole different story. You think we could fit one of those in my car?

induction · 08-13-2002, 02:46 PM

Is that the same motor that came stock in the cogsworth vega?

95ragtop · 08-13-2002, 04:02 PM

And doesn't the motor only make something like 600 revolutions during a 4.5 second run? 8000rpm/60*4.5 I think it is fewer than that because the average RPM is higher.

Those motors are amazing, and the crazy SOBs that drive them are...well...CRAZY.

joe4speed · 08-13-2002, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pony_power_90

Cant forget wires ties ( zip ties ) Man if this combo wont fix it nothing will.

But whats the new thing im hearing bout? Something called "Welding" sounds like a farce to me...I mean c'mon, metal fusion.. Sheesh

Bradley

What is this "WELDING" you're talking about!?

cyberstang5.0 · 08-13-2002, 04:15 PM

You could always use Elmer's Glue, just make sure you don't eat it

PKRWUD · 08-13-2002, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by induction
Is that the same motor that came stock in the cogsworth vega?

NO!!!

Silly girl.

The Cosworth Option was an additional $260.

Take care,
~Chris

08-12-2002, 05:32 PM	#1
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	Wanna see $100k in damage??? This engine was in a top fuel dragster of a friend of a friend. It kinda went boom at 600'. The total cost involved in completely replacing the engine was just under $100k. Take care, ~Chris __________________ Webmaster: Rice Haters Club Jim Porter Racing Peckerwoods Pit Stop Support Your Local RED & WHITE!

08-12-2002, 06:03 PM	#3
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08-12-2002, 07:02 PM	#4
7up Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Greeley, Colorado Posts: 321	I couldn't afford to replace the head gaskets on that thing. __________________ 91 lx convertible, Vortech a-trim, 2.87 blower pulley. 30lb injectors, 80 mm mass air, 255 fuel pump, flowmaster cat back, bbk long tubes and h pipe 299.3 hp, 355.5 tq(before h-pipe, headers) Ricer Hater's Club-member #16

08-12-2002, 08:46 PM	#5
Coupe Devil Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Myrtle Beach SC Posts: 1,643	Hey Chris, What are some of the more specifics on that baby. What block base is that, piston and rod info... I I assume its totally aftermarket DUH.. but what are some of the more specifics? Cubic Inches, Stoke. Bradley __________________ 1990 GT, 347, TFS TW Heads, TFS Cam, TFS Track heat, Twin turbos, FMIC, T5. Built Ford Tough Moderator

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08-12-2002, 05:39 PM	#2
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08-13-2002, 01:20 AM	#8
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08-13-2002, 08:11 AM	#9
cyberstang5.0 347ci of HORSE POWER!!! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,416	wow That's some pretty cool and amazing info about topfuel

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08-13-2002, 02:04 PM	#14
1969Mach1 HEY I CAN SET A NAME NOW! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,556	Chris, you make it sound faster then it really is. lol j/k that is freaking crazy!! I think I crapped myself just reading those stats. §am. __________________ 1969 Mustang Mach 1Sold 351-4V Windsor, 4 Speed MACH 1 - Moving At The Speed Of Sound. 1979 Mustang Indianapolis 500 Pace Car For Sale - Email me for Info 302-2V, 3-Speed Auto One of 2,106 made One of 405 sent to Canada. Yes those are caution lights, and No you can't pass me when there on. Ricer Hater's Club - Member #4

08-13-2002, 02:07 PM	#15
The Deuce Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,325	That is some interesting stuff man. I knew their fuel was pretty flamable and they changed plugs every run. Burning h2 though, that's a whole different story. You think we could fit one of those in my car? __________________ 1997 Mustang GT "The Freak" - 13.80 @ 101.70, 2.07 60' 1995 Honda VFR750 - not much @ really fast (actual data pending.) 1964.5 Mustang 289 Rice Haters Club Member #13

08-13-2002, 02:46 PM	#16
induction The Brit! Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Across the Pond! Posts: 694	Is that the same motor that came stock in the cogsworth vega? __________________ *Restored 1965 Coupe* *April Mare of the Month* RiceHatersClub Member #27

08-13-2002, 04:02 PM	#17
95ragtop Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Palmdale, CA USA Posts: 59	And doesn't the motor only make something like 600 revolutions during a 4.5 second run? 8000rpm/60*4.5 I think it is fewer than that because the average RPM is higher. Those motors are amazing, and the crazy SOBs that drive them are...well...CRAZY. __________________ Take Care, Dave 95 Mustang GT Convertible - SOLD 2000 Buick Regal GS (3.4 pulley, gutted airbox w K&N, U-bend, DHP PCM, TOG Headers. Pre-headers PB 14.81 @ 2700ft elevationw 2.25 60 ft) 1967 Electra 225 convertible (360hp)

08-13-2002, 04:15 PM	#19
cyberstang5.0 347ci of HORSE POWER!!! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,416	You could always use Elmer's Glue, just make sure you don't eat it

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