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silverv6 06-02-2002 02:48 AM

wats the best year 5.0 car to get
 
Well in a couple of weeks im moving to Los Angeles and im selling my 00 Stang. and wen I get to L.A. I want to wait about 3 months or maibe 4 to buy a Stang I want to get a 5 speed 5.0 but I want to know wats the best one to get I like the Fox Body kind. And I want to fix it up real nice

RayC76 06-02-2002 03:17 AM

93 cobra is the only way if you want a fox body.
Ray

silverv6 06-02-2002 03:28 AM

How much HP do they have? and around what price range do I expect to pay?

Can I do lots of mods to it and can I expect big HP gains

RayC76 06-02-2002 03:38 AM

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Originally posted by silverv6
How much HP do they have? and around what price range do I expect to pay?Can I do lots of mods to it and can I expect big HP gains
Go to www.svtperformance.com and take a look at the 93 cobra section and read all you want. Theres alot of good info. As far as the price, theres alot of factors on that, so check autotrader or some other source.
Ray

rbatson 06-02-2002 04:02 AM

OOoohhh yeah, a 93 cobra would be nice but lets be realistic here... I'd look for an 89-92 mustang. What are you looking for???I like the notch cars. You can probably get a clean 92 for about $7k. That would be a very clean car..You could easily get one for less though.

1969Mach1 06-02-2002 11:24 AM

I'm thinkin' of also getting a 5.0L if my baby has to go. My dad had a chance to buy a 90 Cobra yesterday with about 60k miles, for $3000 Canadian but the guy ended up selling it just before he could get a hold of him. The guy needed the money quick that's why he sold it. I was so mad when he told me that, he said it had some stuff done to it. He knew it had the 5 star pony rims on it too. I would of driven that no problem at all. Ohh... well, hopefully another one comes by. :(

RayC76 06-02-2002 12:07 PM

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Originally posted by 1969Mach1
My dad had a chance to buy a 90 Cobra yesterday with about 60k miles, for $3000 Canadian but the guy ended up selling it just before he could get a hold of him. He knew it had the 5 star pony rims on it too.
They started the cobra's in 93 and they had 17" rims not pony's.
Ray

jimberg 06-02-2002 01:38 PM

Canadian Cobras are basically GTs.

If you want a tilt steering wheel, 140mph speedo, and no air bags, an 89 would be the best 5.0 to get.

929PhoenixSquid 06-03-2002 12:46 AM

Just make sure you get Mass air and forged pistons...Hyperutectic (sp) won't take as much abuse

mustangman65_79 06-03-2002 03:32 AM

The '89 I bought was pertty quick for stock. I found out something sick about it though. I was testing out the motor and I found out that it would rev to 7 grand. I don't know if the gov ever kicked in because I let off before it got any higher. Damn the motor was screeming.

jimberg 06-03-2002 07:58 AM

If you were able to rev to 7 grand you either have a chip installed or you tach is way off.

Try Me 06-03-2002 08:52 AM

I know someone who has an 89.. it has no rev limiter either.

jimberg 06-03-2002 09:28 AM

I never really tried it, but the rev limiter may only be active under load and not while sitting still in neutral.

tireburner163 06-03-2002 09:52 AM

IMO, the best years are the 89-92's. The 87 and 88's are a close second and I don't really like the 93's.

BTW, the 87-88's are faster stock or mildly modded.

lx mike 06-03-2002 05:44 PM

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and I don't really like the 93's.
why not? whats wrong with the 93's that you don't like???

Mach 1 06-03-2002 09:25 PM

The rev limiter works while in park or neutral, not just under load.

A lot of people dont like the 93's because they dont have the forged pistons, and they horsepower rating dropped that year for various reasons, none important enough to matter, as it was basically the same engine making the same power.

Ill point out some good points about the 93's that most people dont think about.

1- Hyper pistons are better for a naturaly aspirated setup, and even a mild power adder setup, as they have tighter clearances and less expansion and retraction, producing a 5.0 motor that doesnt start to burn oil after 100K like most of the forged piston variety, where you have to add a quart every 3K miles.

2- the 93's are supposed to have better engine mounts, the same as the convertible mounts.

1969Mach1 06-03-2002 09:38 PM

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Originally posted by jimberg
Canadian Cobras are basically GTs.

If you want a tilt steering wheel, 140mph speedo, and no air bags, an 89 would be the best 5.0 to get.

Yeh I believe the only difference was better suspension, and acouple other little things not really sure. Either way $3000 Canadian so like $2000 is a pretty sweet deal. So I believe. They go for around $6000-$7000 here. And some times more miles too.

lx mike 06-03-2002 11:24 PM

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the 93's are supposed to have better engine mounts, the same as the convertible mounts.
Me and my friends was looking under my hood one night and one asked if i added the vert mounts. I said i didn't and when i bought the car nothing was said so thats probly true.

tireburner163 06-04-2002 03:14 AM

well the 93's don't have forged pistons which is a minus for a N2O junkie like me.

They also have the worst computer of all fox bodies, short of the 93 Cobra.

Mach 1 06-04-2002 06:24 AM

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Originally posted by tireburner163
well the 93's don't have forged pistons which is a minus for a N2O junkie like me.

They also have the worst computer of all fox bodies, short of the 93 Cobra.

What kind of information do you have that you know the 93 computers are worse than the earlier ones?

I read in a book about mustang tuning where one builder actually recommended the 93 computer as the best one.

In my own experience, I swapped a 89 computer into my 93, and it did feel like it perked up some. Hard to tell for sure though.

95mustanggt 06-04-2002 10:35 AM

The 94/95 Cobra's computer sucked the most. Then the 94/95 GT's. I would swap a 93 Computer in my car in a heart beat.

Ever consider an SN95? You get the same powertrain, but better brakes, handling, and a nice comfortable interior.

Mach 1 06-04-2002 12:08 PM

I rode in a 2000 V-6 car the other day, and couldnt believe how much smaller the interior was. I think all those rounded panels sucks up interior space compared to the fox bodys

lx mike 06-04-2002 05:24 PM

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They also have the worst computer of all fox bodies, short of the 93 Cobra
I found out that my 93 lx has the a9l computer in it.

1969 Stang 06-04-2002 05:36 PM

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Originally posted by jimberg
I never really tried it, but the rev limiter may only be active under load and not while sitting still in neutral.
were you moving...cause in my moms grand prix if you put it in neutral and are going at least 5mph the car will rev high...well higher then if you were stopped, it will only go up to 4k that way. But you can take it up to 6k in the yellow...wont go past the yellow..never had...never will. and the governer kicks in at 105mph...just to let you know...btw 87-92 mustangs rule...I like the cobra in 93 but the mustangs lost power in 93 from what I hear. And a 87 mustang is rated at 225 hp...(autotrader), and the 93 cobra is only 235hp...and the cobra cost alot more...I think...

1969 Stang 06-04-2002 05:41 PM

get a 1969 Boss 302...no one will mess with you.
they are roomy in side...and if not one of those get a Mach 1. Most comfortable seats I have ever set in...I think...with a 351...you won't have to get it smoged ever and it looks nice...always get the thumbs up and stuff...and insurance MAY be cheaper....hope this helps.

rbatson 06-04-2002 08:25 PM

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Originally posted by Mach 1
1- Hyper pistons are better for a naturaly aspirated setup, and even a mild power adder setup, as they have tighter clearances and less expansion and retraction, producing a 5.0 motor that doesnt start to burn oil after 100K like most of the forged piston variety, where you have to add a quart every 3K miles.

Now I've heard this from a couple people before and believe it to be true but.. it kinda limits you to the amount of boost you run. I've heard that some folks run 12# of s-trim with no problems though. That seems pretty good but... I'd still get an 89-92(I'm crazy like that:D)

I've also heard folks say that putting a computer from an aod car into a stick car will make a difference. The aod computer is more aggressive, that's what I was told a long time ago. The 93 Cobra computer is supposed to suck... this is all hear say that I never personally tried myself(disclaimer).

My 89 speedo only goes to 85 but the build date on the door says Nov/88, that could be the difference.

Mach1, how's the kid?:)

Mach 1 06-04-2002 09:01 PM

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Originally posted by rbatson


My 89 speedo only goes to 85 but the build date on the door says Nov/88, that could be the difference.

Mach1, how's the kid?:)

If your car was built in NOV 88, it should be an 89. Mine was built in Oct 92, and its a 93.

Was 89 the first year for the 140 MPH speedo?

The kid is doing great, thanks..:)

rbatson 06-04-2002 09:16 PM

Absolutely, my car is an 89.. no doubt about that but I think they changed to the 140mph speedo mid year.

Its been alittle over a year since you had the kid, from what I remember.. why don't you post a pic??;)(bragging time bro) I was thinking today that that might be the reason we don't see you 'quite' as much as we did before.

Mach 1 06-04-2002 09:56 PM

I dont know when they changed the speedo..maybe it was mid year?

The kid is 5.5 months, and yes, between the baby and married life, that is why you dont see me here so much anymore. Ill try to post a pic or two....




http://www.urbiaclub.de/fc/121213/al...20977795NN.jpg


http://www.urbiaclub.de/fc/121213/al...16043370WV.jpg

rbatson 06-04-2002 10:07 PM

heeh, I don't know if you ever noticed this but I use "I think", "I believe" or "maybe" alot. I use these works referring to things I'm certain about, alot of times, but don't want to get involved in a big arguement .:) Anyhow, yes they changed the speedo mid year in 89. Some have the 85 some have the 140(I wish mine went to 140 but.. oh well):)

Cute kid you have there bro!! That dog looks alot like the mutt I have. Has it only been 5-6 monthes ago?? I thought it was last spring.. oh well. Post more when you can, that's one good looking kid there:)

Mach 1 06-04-2002 11:31 PM

Come on man, if you know your right about something, dont be so bashful and politically correct about stating it, just let that knowledge out to the rest of the world. If peoples feeling get hurt, so be it...:)

Seriously, from the way you were talking, I could not tell that you knew it was a mid year change and thought you were actually asking if it was, because you wondered why your car didnt have the 140 speedo when the 89s were supposed to have them.

I agree with your logic, state facts in the form of a question, to get people thinking, but its hard to tell when written, as the tone of voice can be helpful when using this technique.

Thanks for the compliments on the kid. She is really cool and a lot of fun. Yeah, she was born Dec. 19th, not even six months yet. The dog I could live without. If you know anybody who wants the dog, let me know.

gray ghost86 06-05-2002 03:01 PM

86's are cool too
 
I like the 86GT just because of the body style and interior. The downside is that they're speed density and have inferior cylinder heads and smaller brakes(and an 85mph speedo). Good luck.


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