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Are their any new supplements out there that actually works besides creatine?? I'm getting back into weightlifting/powerlifting again. I use to be able to bench 336 9 times and squat close to 560. Now i want to be get back into it again and get bulked up. Any workout suggestions?? thanks.

geez, if you were benching 339 and squating 560 I'd say that whatever you were doing before was working good enough. I'm an advocate of bulking up through a healthy diet and hard work, there's no need for supplements if you're eating right. But then again, when I stopped lifting in january my squat max was 300 lbs, and I'm not even going to mention my bench numbers. You could probably curl that much. To answer your question I haven't heard of any new supplements.

Yea bro just do what you were doing before. Unless you want to be looking like arnold.

I've heard a lot of good things about POS (Performance Optimizer System) 5.

ever herd of steroids? i hear they work pretty well.. haha. jk

just eat good, no need for supplements, there just a waste of money imo.

anyone tryd hydroxy cut?

later

Well i'm the same size now that i was back then. I just need the definition back. I started a pretty good diet a while back but didn't stay with it. But now i'm gonna try it again and see how i do. I used hydroxycut with pretty good results. But it makes you hungry all the time. I'm gonna get back into the gym sometime soon and start working out again.

My personal advice is to stay away from the suppliments. Simply eat more smaller high-carb meals and try to avoid the fattier choices of carbs.

You never really know the long-term effects of different "natural" products sold at GNC. For example, you might wind up with large calcium deposits or only god knows what 15 years later.....

How long ago was "back then"? How old are you now? Muscles have memory and it doesn't take long to get back to where you were unless you are significantly older. If you're over 35 and back then was mid-20's, it is a good bet that your testosterone levels have dropped quite a bit. Back when I was 23 or so,
I started lifting again and went from benching a pathetic 225 to benching 385 in about 6 months. My max in high school was 240 which was the last time I seriously lifted.

I'm 31 now, and "back then" was when i was 27. So it's been 4 years.

You'll be fine then. Screw the supplements.

I am not the biggest guy and I dont work out as much as I use to but, I max 300 on bench and 400+ sqaut.

I need to start working out again too. I was 6ft 215 lbs solid just 2 years ago.

Now I am starting to get a gut and weigh almost 230 lbs. I am 26 yrs old getting old sux.

I liked the results I got with Creatine.

Later,

WTF kind of hydroxycut were YOU taking??? :confused: Its supposed to curb your appetite, and it worked for me...

Sounds like it was rolled into a J. ;) Actually all that stuff has speed in it (well not really) but it should speed up your metablosism, and make you not hungry. Were you cutting back the caloric intake too far while taking it?

Yes i cut my calorie intake wayy back. But the hydroxcut that i was taking made me hungry all the time. I know that it's not suppose to but it did.

Actually it does. Ephedrine is the main ingredient in Methamphetamines. Taking too much Ma Huang and not eating over long periods of time is a sure fire recipe for a premature heart attack, stroke, or even pyschosis in some cases. You know what they say...everything in moderation! :)

You're one smart(arse) cookie, eh Belle?

They don't buy speed off the street and put it in there though. Most suppliments are just a legal manipulation of an illegal drug anyway. Well, except maybe asprin. You know what the street value of that stuff is?

I would personally suggest to stay away from the creatine. It does wonders while you are working out. But, there is always a but, when you stop working out, even if you discontinue the creatine, the weight and mass you gained will turn to mush. Trust me. If you could see me now compared to in high school, you wouldn't think I was the same person. Do it the old fashion way, eat right, run alot- at a track not the street concrete causes shin splints- and work out.
Caymon

Its always interesting how either side of the debate can skew the facts to push their cause...Check out the difference in tone between these two sites:

http://www.ephedrafacts.com/

http://ephedrainjury.com/


Isn't debating among humans wonderful? :rolleyes:

I'm still playing college football up here in Canada and I've tried many supplements along the way. There really isn't anything new that is as effective as creatine. Methoxy-7-isoflavine was thought to be the next best thing but it is too expensive for most of us and the gains are only modest. My main staples are creatine and glutamine. I also use a lot of whey proteins and Prolab's Nlarge2.
When taking creatine, I heat up a kettle of water and put the creatine powder and a scoop of gatorade in a plastic bottle, shake them up and then pour it over a glass filled with ice. That way the creatine is fully dissolved and the gatorade spikes your insulin levels to increase the uptake of the creatine and cold liquid are absorbed faster than warm ones. I also take creatine on an empty stomache.
I mostly use the Prolab Nlarge2 as a post workout shake because it has an ideal ratio of carbs to protein and a liquid meal after a workout will absorb quicker than solid foods.
Other than that, make sure you are eating quality sources of protein, they're not all created equally.
Tribulus terrestitis can give good gains and is quite safe because it just helps the raw materials that you already have combine to make up testosterone. HMB has helped a little but the cost was too much for me.
If your looking for strength, stay away from the hydroxycut, trimming and building should be done at different stages, almost everyone who tries to do both at the same time fails. Also people who blame supplement that they took in the past for their present state need to look in the mirror to find the true source of their present physical condition.
Sorry a little long winded but I do know this subject pretty well and I try to keep up on the current info to stay competitive.

Why would creatine be the cause of your muscles turning to mush if you stop working out. It's a naturally occuring substance in the body. If you stop working out you're going to lose muscle mass no matter how you gained it, with or without supplements. You lose muscle mass three times faster than you can gain it(something like that)

forget all that. just get some needles and some deca dorabilin, winstrol, and clenbuterol. you will be all set. go to steroids101.com and you should see how to do your cycle.

stay away from oral pills they kill your liver.

when you inject the steroids put it in your thigh and when you stick the needle in your leg pull some fluid out. if you see blood you have a vien and thats bad news. re poke and if you have no blood just inject.

diet is 90% of it all. get on a good diet, stick to eating lots and lots of protien and you will bulk the hell up.

you dont see all the side effects of steroids as many people think. your gonna get pimples on your back and on your face a very little bit. you might get a little chubby in the face only.

I hate supplements i just think they are one big money pit. You eat the right foods and you don't need them at all. I got pretty big while playing college football and never used a thing just worked out hard. Then the damn army said i can only weight 212 so i don't eat so much any more and seem to be tired all the damn time.

People that make speed do go to the store and buy ephedra though. Most of the stay awake pills have it in it. They extract the ephdra and add a couple more easy to get chemicals. Most of the so called hydroxy cut stuff has it too. All those things are are herbal forms of speed.

Hydroxycut made me feel sick, but it worked. Probably because I had a upset stomach and didn't feel like eating. Note that you are supposed to take them before meal time.

If one motivates himself they can do anything with there body structure. There are some exceptions. I myself used to be quite the body builder type until I broke my shoulder and severd every nerve and ligament in it. I still do workout but I am so weak in my shoulder it is hard. The doctor put me on testosterone (sp) to builsb back my muscles but it made me mean. Going to but pics up but don.t laugh at how ugly I am ok :)

before I hurt myself

my stitches all 300 of them

Damn Dude you made me hurt on that last one!! Ouch !!! OOO And can we please get some more pictures of buffed men on this thread!!!!;) ;) ;) :p

See Ya,
Karen

The only supplements I am interested in are weight gainers. I take serious mass a few times a week. 50g protein and 1250calories.

It sounds like your guys are big and are trying to loose weight and have no problem gaining it. How much do you weight? I can't gain weight if my life depended on it, but I just got over a broken wrist for the past 3 months and am just getting lifting again.

I am 6'1" 170lbs right now. Im trying MYO-BLAST. Research it a bit, the idea behind it is 100% correct, weather the supplement their selling will really block or inhibit the myostatin protein is something thats yet to be proven, but Im giving it a try, so we'll see what happens. Creatine is water weight, and soon as you get off you loose it again.

Now I really dont care about strength anymore, I just want to look bigger, and the strength will come. The most I've ever done was 225x7 and I was 160lbs and 5% body fat.

Heres a pic where Im starting at right now. My spring I hope to be 190. So we'll see what happens.

Btw thats my g/f behind.

Skyler

Just to clear up some things about creatine. It will not turn into fat once u get off it. After u stop taking creatine it is almost all out of your body in 3 weeks or so. The muscle gained from it will be the exact same as muscle gained from eating normal food and working out. The intial gain from creatine is water weight, however, if you stay on it long enough your muscles will be stretched from the extra water weight and will stay that size even when you aren't taking it.

more than likely a moot observation given the depth that the thread has taken, but I was on Hydroxycut for a while, and I did like the fat loss, but I dropped it after i found out what it was doing to my BP. Spiked my bp from the mid-Normal range to the low-High range. My pulse was also elevated but not all that much. (I used the monitor [at a local store] frequently, and there was never any significant variation, this time I had dosed about an hour earlier) I have read that it is the Mau Huang{sp?} that does it.

mau hung(sp?) is a precurser to ephederine so your right.

Well Damn, Now I am just freaking blubber now after 4 operations in 4 yrs I can not even move my right arm now. I was looking back on how I used to look and it almost brought tears to my eyes. It will be another 12 monts before I will be able to even think about lifting any type of weights. Now I am on disability maybe for good. My wife whom I dotted over and always talked about left me for a man with money( Since I can only collect 400 a week). But now I have a woman whom Loves me for who I am and who understands that what matters is what is inside and not just looks. Bobbie Jo is my soulmate and I would not ever give her up for anything. Here is a pic of my fat ass now after my 4th operation. I just pray to God that I am still able to function. As some of you might know I had to sell my Stang because I needed money to fight for custody of my son and such. I do know what is most important in life. And that is your loved ones. With age many will figure this out. Here also is a pic of my new ride. Not very fast but it gets me around.

and a pic of me the day after my 4th surgery