I hate supplements i just think they are one big money pit. You eat the right foods and you don't need them at all. I got pretty big while playing college football and never used a thing just worked out hard. Then the damn army said i can only weight 212 so i don't eat so much any more and seem to be tired all the damn time.
People that make speed do go to the store and buy ephedra though. Most of the stay awake pills have it in it. They extract the ephdra and add a couple more easy to get chemicals. Most of the so called hydroxy cut stuff has it too. All those things are are herbal forms of speed.
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