what's with all the new cars now?

DaTank · 09-06-2001, 11:01 PM

I just got my Motor Trend mag. and it has a new buyer's guide list of cars for 2002/2003.

Example:
*Buik Regal - Opt engine 3.8L/240HP
*Chrysler Concorde-opt engine 3.5L/234HP
*Infiniti I35 - 3.5L/260HP
*Infiniti Q45 - 4.5L/340HP
*All Lexus's were listed over 200HP
*Nissan Altima - opt engine 3.5L/240HP
*Nissan Maxima - 3.5L/260HP
*Olds. Intrigue - 3.5L/215HP
*Subaru Impreza - 2.0L/227HP

Not to mention all the other Makes/Models that are Mom and Pop's cars, like some of these listed.
Most of the curb weights were between 3000 and 3500lb's with the Subaru Impreza at 2730lb's.
I think the standard/base GT Mustang should be over 300HP.

Just my thoughts.
Brad

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1991 Mustang GT Conv.
Removed silencer, K&N air filter, Cobra manifold, 65mm TB,
Adjustable fuel pressure regulator, 180 thermo., Mac headers,
High flow H-pipe, Force II W/2 chamber Flowmaster,
Hurst Shifter, 3.55 gears, subframes

StoplightWarrior · 09-07-2001, 02:15 AM

I could not agree with you more!!! When I bought my GT, I always pictured myself just leaving cars on the freeway, but with the latest trend of giving everyone and their moms 240+ horsepower in their sedans, a lot of cars can give me a run for my money.

If I was driving this mustang in the 80's there would be next to NO competition. Now, though, many cars are just SO quick. What's going on???

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Black 2000 GT
Bassani X-pipe, Magnaflow Mufflers, Steeda Pulleys, K&N Filter. Steeda Weld in Subframes, Strut Tower brace, Sport Springs, Caster/Camber Plates.

Red 1994 Mustang Cobra #4343
Pulleys, Shorty Headers, K&N filter, short throw shifter.

69fastback · 09-07-2001, 02:55 AM

I agree mustangs should have lots more power. Lots of these other cars are getting lots of power i don't know what is up. Maybe more ppl just wanna go fast. Who knows it is obviously what is seling cars are they wouldn't do it.

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69 428 cobra jet: tons of mods.
97 f-150 5.4 xlt mark III
BUCKLE UP. SUCK IT IN.
Objects in the mirror are about to disappear...
QUICKLY!!!!!!

RAGE_5.0 · 09-07-2001, 05:55 PM

when i become president of ford within the next 10 yrs u will see a big difference.....
for example...get rid of the 6cyl and the base engine then becomes the 302.....moderate engine being the 351 and the big one being a 429scj
all these come with a c4 or a 6spd tremec????? remember vote for JAMES
oh and did i mention the 429 will come with a drag pak option which will also give u the option for a paxton novi

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Black 1990 gt cobra bonestock
not for long

Rev · 09-07-2001, 07:54 PM

Well, a BMW M5 (5.0) produces 394 HP. A Ford 4.6 Cobra produces 320 HP (?). Maybe we could learn something from the Germans?

Rev

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'66 Coupe, 306, 300 HP, C-4, 13.97 e.t., 100.3 mph
1/4 mi.

Unit 5302 · 09-07-2001, 09:59 PM

Really with some very simple mods a new Cobra can run 12's, and a GT deep into the 13's. Even though a lot of the cars you see out there have major hp, they often have another 400-1000lbs of heft to go along with it.

Any way you look at it, 12's are just about as quick as you can get on a street tired vehicle.

Sometimes I see people bringing up the price of new cars, I do it myself. When you look at inflation though, there isn't much argument. If my 87GT fully loaded went for $13k in a 1987 model, today at 3.5% inflation it would sell for $21k. There are some things that have been added to the GT since my fox body, too. 4 wheel disc, ABS (Don't like it), Airbags (don't like em), traction control, more powerful engine, a better sound system too. When you say a Mustang should be cheap performance, I look at the base model. About $16k entry. About $9,500 back in the day (87). The entry level car is priced cheaper than almost ALL of it's competitors, and compared to other cars, it's an excellent deal. What else can you get for that? Some very entry level cars. The Mustang has a lot to offer at that price. 190hp V-6 when equipped with a manual that can run low/mid 15's. All for about the same price as a Civic.

95mustanggt · 09-08-2001, 09:27 PM

The one thing you forget is the handling of the mustang too. I mean a stock GT will hand one of those big boats it's *** .

Besides, for the price the mustang is an awsome deal for the $$$.

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1995 Mustang GT

09-06-2001, 11:01 PM	#1
DaTank Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: washington state Posts: 78	what's with all the new cars now? I just got my Motor Trend mag. and it has a new buyer's guide list of cars for 2002/2003. Example: Buik Regal - Opt engine 3.8L/240HP Chrysler Concorde-opt engine 3.5L/234HP Infiniti I35 - 3.5L/260HP Infiniti Q45 - 4.5L/340HP All Lexus's were listed over 200HP Nissan Altima - opt engine 3.5L/240HP Nissan Maxima - 3.5L/260HP Olds. Intrigue - 3.5L/215HP *Subaru Impreza - 2.0L/227HP Not to mention all the other Makes/Models that are Mom and Pop's cars, like some of these listed. Most of the curb weights were between 3000 and 3500lb's with the Subaru Impreza at 2730lb's. I think the standard/base GT Mustang should be over 300HP. Just my thoughts. Brad ------------------ 1991 Mustang GT Conv. Removed silencer, K&N air filter, Cobra manifold, 65mm TB, Adjustable fuel pressure regulator, 180 thermo., Mac headers, High flow H-pipe, Force II W/2 chamber Flowmaster, Hurst Shifter, 3.55 gears, subframes

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09-07-2001, 02:15 AM	#2
StoplightWarrior Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Nor-Cal Posts: 1,311	I could not agree with you more!!! When I bought my GT, I always pictured myself just leaving cars on the freeway, but with the latest trend of giving everyone and their moms 240+ horsepower in their sedans, a lot of cars can give me a run for my money. If I was driving this mustang in the 80's there would be next to NO competition. Now, though, many cars are just SO quick. What's going on??? ------------------ Black 2000 GT Bassani X-pipe, Magnaflow Mufflers, Steeda Pulleys, K&N Filter. Steeda Weld in Subframes, Strut Tower brace, Sport Springs, Caster/Camber Plates. Red 1994 Mustang Cobra #4343 Pulleys, Shorty Headers, K&N filter, short throw shifter.

09-07-2001, 02:55 AM	#3
69fastback IRAQ VET Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: high desert California Posts: 1,480	I agree mustangs should have lots more power. Lots of these other cars are getting lots of power i don't know what is up. Maybe more ppl just wanna go fast. Who knows it is obviously what is seling cars are they wouldn't do it. ------------------ 69 428 cobra jet: tons of mods. 97 f-150 5.4 xlt mark III BUCKLE UP. SUCK IT IN. Objects in the mirror are about to disappear... QUICKLY!!!!!!

09-07-2001, 05:55 PM	#4
RAGE_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Leamington, Ontario, Canada Posts: 767	when i become president of ford within the next 10 yrs u will see a big difference..... for example...get rid of the 6cyl and the base engine then becomes the 302.....moderate engine being the 351 and the big one being a 429scj all these come with a c4 or a 6spd tremec????? remember vote for JAMES oh and did i mention the 429 will come with a drag pak option which will also give u the option for a paxton novi ------------------ Black 1990 gt cobra bonestock not for long

09-07-2001, 07:54 PM	#5
Rev Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Houston, Tx. Posts: 3,887	Well, a BMW M5 (5.0) produces 394 HP. A Ford 4.6 Cobra produces 320 HP (?). Maybe we could learn something from the Germans? Rev ------------------ '66 Coupe, 306, 300 HP, C-4, 13.97 e.t., 100.3 mph 1/4 mi.

09-07-2001, 09:59 PM	#6
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	Really with some very simple mods a new Cobra can run 12's, and a GT deep into the 13's. Even though a lot of the cars you see out there have major hp, they often have another 400-1000lbs of heft to go along with it. Any way you look at it, 12's are just about as quick as you can get on a street tired vehicle. Sometimes I see people bringing up the price of new cars, I do it myself. When you look at inflation though, there isn't much argument. If my 87GT fully loaded went for $13k in a 1987 model, today at 3.5% inflation it would sell for $21k. There are some things that have been added to the GT since my fox body, too. 4 wheel disc, ABS (Don't like it), Airbags (don't like em), traction control, more powerful engine, a better sound system too. When you say a Mustang should be cheap performance, I look at the base model. About $16k entry. About $9,500 back in the day (87). The entry level car is priced cheaper than almost ALL of it's competitors, and compared to other cars, it's an excellent deal. What else can you get for that? Some very entry level cars. The Mustang has a lot to offer at that price. 190hp V-6 when equipped with a manual that can run low/mid 15's. All for about the same price as a Civic.

09-08-2001, 09:27 PM	#7
95mustanggt Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Kamloops, BC Posts: 2,875	The one thing you forget is the handling of the mustang too. I mean a stock GT will hand one of those big boats it's *** . Besides, for the price the mustang is an awsome deal for the $$$. ------------------ 1995 Mustang GT