Why do V6 Mustang owners rice up...
 

I don't know if it's just here in Ottawa, but it seems that all the 4ft high wings, the sin full altezzas, and billion stickers go on V6 Mustangs. Seems to me as well that the riced up ones are driven by the pimping 18 year old with cap on backwards ... It's like they are trying to compensate for something...

Have you ever seen this? A notch type mustang with the single exaust pipe 5.0 style. You gotta be kidding!

Why I ask WHY????

Yes they are. lack of power. They aren't fast so they want to "look" fast.

Re: Why do V6 Mustang owners rice up...
 

They are deprived children, there parents didn't educate them on them. If I come home and had a Mustang or any car riced out my dad would kick me in the head and crush my car into a little cube. It's pretty funny cause I have acouple rice boy friends and he'll come home to find a riced out Honda parked in my driveway and be like what the hell is that in my driveway. Although he still respects there own opinion of there style he still enjoys making fun of them like the rest of us. :D

I bought my V6 with my own money, i'm 21 now and i didnt do anything rice to it. I even had it blown for a period of time until i needed to help pay bills. It was running low 14's and even had a 13 second pass.

Hell, what do i really know though. I should go buy a 4 foot S351 wing and put GT badges on it now :rolleyes: :D

not all 6 bangers are riced out, i have seen riced out gt's & even a few cobras :eek: :eek: :eek: , so not all of our fellow stangers with 6's are rice. that is all, over & out.:D ;)

Well, you have to look at it this way: There aren't a whole lot of otions that V6's have like the 5.0 and 4.6's of the world. Moddin your car is an instinct, so they search for anything to make their car stand out.

Hey, if it's ugly as **** and makes you wince, at least you are LOOKING at them. Usually, you see a Mustang, get interested, then notice that it's a little 6 banger and stop paying attention.

No, It is even down here in Texas. If they are going to spend that much money on the car, go ahead and buy a GT. And Stop looking like a wantabe street racer.

i just got the new california mustang catalog, there is a few pages devouted to the 3.8 stang's, sorry guy's just because i have a gt, im not going to knock the v-6's chop's, unless they are riced out :rolleyes: :D :D

not all V6 owners are f'n rich and could afford 1) the price tag on the GT or 2) the crazy insurance.

Until i get older, i'll keep my 3.8, and non riced either.

and the people that talk **** about them too are usually the ones that pick on them when they are minding their buisiness driving down the street.

i hate GT owners and Cobra owners that do that sh*t.

Back up the carriage there buddy. I don't think anyone is knocking V6's per se..... I think we are complaining about some of the rediculous mods some V6 owners do to their cars. Like a triple stacked wing or bright lime green and pink decals....etc

I love caifornia mustang...its like 20min. from my house...unless I'm driving then its like 5...j/k...I made it in like 15 once...but I didn't speed and got all green lights...anyways it is a good place but if you ever go there in person go like 15min. early because they get busy and are kinda slow...lol

I see where you are coming from, but i dont like being put in the category of being a "ricer" V6 driver. There are some v8's out there too that are like it...

prime example-

http://www.mustangworld.com/ourpics/...3/chrisfd2.jpg

Its a GT dressed up to be a "saleen" with GAY altezzas.

V6 owners arent all bad...but yes, some of them should be wiped from the genepool

I have to say, I hate v6 mustangs. I swear, if I speed up cause I see a stang in the distance, then get there only to find out it's a v6 mustang one more time!!!! Why do they even make v6 stangs? A mustang is supposed to be quick. When Johnny Ricer beats a v6 stang, and doesnt know any better, he goes and tells all his friends how slow mustangs are. I know, I know, v6'ers say, "Maybe I cant afford a Gt." or "I don't want to pay the insurance on a GT." BS!!! I had a v6 stang, and I sold it for $9600 and then bought a NEWER GT for $10,000, and it had fewer miles!! My insurance only went up $400 a year. So, all in all, I got a newer car, with less miles, and a freaking GT at that, for all of $800. Plus, that 800 is nominal, cause I had easily put that much into my v6 stang (pulleys, chip, dual exhaust) before I sold it. Cmon, v6ers, see the light!! Don't have false pride!! There are better options out there!! I thank the lord everyday for my v8 mustangs.


Disclaimer: I don't really hate v6's, haha, they are always good to make me feel better about myself. :D

Sinister - Why are you a moderator at modernmusclecars.net when you don't seem to have a muscle car? :eek:

Well, up until maybe a month ago my stang was blown and it was running low 14's and even an upper 13 second pass. I did have a fast one, but had to sell all of my parts to help pay for college. And i became a rather respected member over there so he let me be one of the moderators. AND, it seems as if they were MUCH more open minded over there about what constitutes a "muscle car" seeing as REAL muscle cars died back in the early 70's IMO.

But seeing as i don't have a V8, i might as well just shutup and mind my buisiness. :rolleyes: The key word is being open minded about people who own V6's. At least we are driving Mustangs, narrow minded mustang owners who think that Mustangs live and die according to the V8 are pretty damn stupid. I'm happy with my V6, and i bought it and paid for everything on it all by myself, and i'm putting myself through college with no parent help.

Just be more open-minded and dont think that your masculinity goes down when someone in a V6 Mustang comes up one day and blows your doors off :)

Thats all. :D (not all directed to you blue)

I respect you and the fact that you made your v6 really nice. Still, I PROMISE I will never lose to a v6 stang.

Why are we bashing on each other? If someone can't aford a GT and they get even an old 4 banger notch at least it's not a Honda. I think this is really pointless.

Hey, I own a Honda and I'm really offended....blah, blah.....whine, whine....you hurt my feelings and all that good stuff. :D


(course.....my Honda's got wings on the side.....hehe)

In case anyone missed my point.....it's as follows. Don't be so freakin sensitive about your car. If you are THAT easily offended by comments made by others, then maybe the problem lies WITHIN, and not externally. People will says things to get a rise out of you all your life. If you can't handle it on a website, how are you gonna survive in the real world???? Soooo....if you have a V6, enjoy it, do what you want, and don't let what others say bother you. Because if you do, then you wind up irritating others with your stupid complaining.

I perfectly agree!

You almost lost me on that wings on the side thing. I'm over here going they make planes too??? Oh yeah the tank emblem DUH!!! Man I need sleep.

I didnt plan on this turning out to what it happened. I just was saying how not all V6 guys rice out their cars. The post made it sound to me that all of us did it. I just defended them.

Most intelligent line ever posted in a Mustang forum :rolleyes:



I love all Mustangs...i'd love a 67 Fastback :) I think that Mustang owners should respect the fact that at least they are driving a Mustang instead of falling into that Import bulls**t that is the "cool" thing to do now. I'm not here for a flame war :D

I have to disagree with Sinister...THIS is the most ignorant thing ever posted on a Mustang forum:rolleyes:

Your lack of education in newer techiques of hooking up a V6 Mustang will hopefully lead to your eventual embarassment in a race...not because you lost, but because of your attitude...Unless of course, you won't lose because you'll refuse to race ;)

Grow up-its very possible to have a VERY quick V6, and there's nothing wrong with that-his car, HIS CHOICE.

I agree...I love my SN95, but no "modern mustang" can rival the beauty of the "true" muscle car era :).

I, too had a "hooked up" V6 back in 98', but it was mostly appearance and slow as hell. Which, should give me even more reason to have a stick up my *** when it comes to teasing...However, I choose not to.

I've gotten angry at people who cram their opinion down my throat about it, but you know--I was 17, and I thought it was the coolest thing on earth! END OF STORY. **** what everyone else thinks, its not THEIR car. You really shouldn't worry yourself about that kind of ****..this isn't high school all over again! Of course I'd never choose a V6 over a V8 for all obvious reasons, but if you're happy with your car, I'm happy for you! :D You just don't sound too happy about it yourself, since you are busy arguing with others about it--I think its about time you took yer girl for a spin around the block ;)

Man, I'm being ignorant all around today. :rolleyes: But seriously, I'm not saying I will never lose to a car with a V6, just a mustang with one. The 232 is a terrible platform to work with. Youd have to dump SO much cash into one to beat my GT. I remember an article a while back with a 2000 v6 stang, with all the bolt on's and a Blower. It ran a 13.97. Wow. that is pretty quick. :rolleyes: And I know so many people in my area with blown V6's too. They're really common around here.

Bottom line: No one buys a V6 with the intent on making a fast drag car. It's not feasible. If someone gets stuck with a v6, they can make the best of it. You get my respect if you work on your ride. Period, I don't care what it is, if you take pride in it, and it looks/runs good, then that's cool with me. I don't think hating V6's makes me ignorant? Hating blacks, or chinese might, but I have good reason for hating v6 stangs. :D

man your too touchy if your car isnt riced out then cool, didnt i say 2 times i have nothing against a 6 cyl stang, if it's not rice, i also said i have seen rice gt's & cobras, i laugh at them too, if your ride isnt rice then it's cool, there are more 6 cyl stangs in my area than gt;s & cobras , i dont knock them, it's all good.;) :D

my ride now is a 00 v6 auto. i gues the auto kinda goes with the v6, its more for crusing and it gets pretty ok miles. when i got it i was concerned about mpg and it wasnt to pricey either with full electric. i was also 16 so i couldnt exactly work full time. i was comparing it to a 00 eclips, but i was already bias to domesic and the base eclips a 4cyl with fwd so that clinched it.

now that i have more free time though id like to get a v8 though, and try and get it into the high 11's. nowadays im comparing high 2#k cars instead of high 1#k cars though as something ill be "happy" with as a platform for atleast 5 years.

but there are some fast 4 cyls out there also.

im a sleeper kinda person, i like clean lines on the outside and one solid color, and dark windows.

Just read an article on the FT470. A Twin Turbo V6 mustang with 470HP! I hope you don't pull next to that car Stoplight!

In my Opinion all us V8 guys owe our lively hood to the V6 cars. If Ford stopped making V6's they wouldn't make enough money and would stop making mustangs period!

I think that is what happened to the F-bodies.

...But don't kid yourself, real performance comes from V8's :)

http://www.supersixmotorsports.com

they make some major products for V6 Mustangs. They are expensive, but there are some kits that could get them abover 300 horsepower, and thats without a blower or juice.



Someday i hope i can afford a GT, but till then, i'm damn proud of my 6. I still wish she was blown :(

You gotta look at it this way. It's actually cheaper to add a supercharger to a V6 than do a 5.0 or 4.6 swap. With a few other mods, they could easily catch you.

Also, keep in mind that just because your car is CAPABLE of running low 13's, does NOT mean you actually have the experience, talent or skill to do so yourself. My 929 is capable of low 10's. That doesn't mean I'll ever run them with my fat as on it.:D

Actually, I just put my foot down and go (it's auto) doesnt take too much skill or experience. Toughest part was figuring out how to launch it, but I think I have that down now.


As far as 95mustanggt said, I'm pretty sure I won't run into that twin turbo'd v6 stang running around here in my 24000 person town. That's a sick car, and would most certainly hand me my *** like no other, but the fact is, I will NEVER pull up to a stoplight next to it. The chances of me running into a v6 stang in my town with enough power to beat me has got to be astronomical. I'll make another promise though: If I ever do get beat by a v6, I'll post about it here. :D Until then...

Yuck! "I'll never get beaten by a car with a auto tranny! It's 5/6 speed or nuthin!" :D (See the rediculousness of this sort of a statement??)

Sorry, it had to be done:p

Honestly, I gotta tell you, I don't even laugh at these little civics anymore, becuase you just never know. Last time I was at Atco, I saw SEVERAL stock "looking" civics pull 12's and 11's.

You just.......never know

To be honest with you, I'm a lot more scared of civics than v6 stangs. I know way more people with turbo'ed or nitroused civics than blown v6 stangs. Also, the civics weigh so little, they can be fast with less hp.

I don't think that is a rediculous statement at all. If you've never been beat by a car with an auto, then you've never been beat by a car with an auto. I've never been beat by a stang with a v6. That's the god's honest truth. How can I phrase that better? It's the truth, that's what I said. You guys are reading way too much into this. V6 stangs are not performance machines. They CAN be, but it's pretty tough, so I typically don't give them a second look on the street. If they mess with me, I hand them their *** on a silver platter....every time.

Look, I am just trying to be difficult....:D I know exactly where you are coming from. All the weight of the GT, without the added hp and torque. I agree with you almost completely....and yes, I am afraid of civics more than V6 stangs as well. Relax..I'm just playing the devils advocate:)

v6's are kinda a tricky domain. forever the've been associated with looks: the ponycar image/name at an affordable price. but not true performance. it took ford a couple of years to finally get some respectable hp/tq outa the v6. but they've (V6) however been the flagship CARRYING THE MUSTANG for so long. Ford can't price the 8's cheap enoughto justify an ultra mass production and an overall lower dealer price. the exorbornant price of the new gt's(**'in forget about the cobras), makes insurance rates insane for males; the majorty performance buyers of most 8 cylinder cars. the v6 scene is kinda a wakeup call to a gearhead culture starved for power, that was weigned on import 4's an 6's, but forced to deal wth the idiotic actions of a few, halting the possibility of performance car ownership for responsible, talented drivers. With a smaller history than the v8's, aftermarket dealers realizing the majority of mustangs sold are stripped down 6's, they looked at the what was workin using what is learned from 8's poweradders an reapplied it to 6's and they're jus kinda now bein looked at for true performance. I applaud them, thats what america is about. creativity, an doin somthin different. I'd love to watch a a turboed/nitrosed stang 6 leavefoot prints all over a riced out civic!! what I wanna know is what took em so damn long? hell, the import scene spend god knows what pourin cash into 4's an 6's to get them into v8 timeslips. why not a pureblood pony car? its creativeness show the possible future of an unfortunate possible overall lower gasoline consuption, but nice power outputs from a smaller engine and the general creativity of AM designers to use whats avaliable to increase power. but i know for a fact the 3.8 is weaker in overall strength than the v8's, so for their reliability and strength to be equaled, theirs got to be a way to get higher hp/tq numbers from a slightly bigger 6.

on a side note, what is "riced out for a mustang"? better wheels,(those pos /12/15's/16's?) tires, poweradders? cosmetic differrences? if the idea is to do somthin different and to have a nice car, where to you draw the line? I beleive its a waste of money to dump cash into a 6, but I have an 8. but while I was lookin for mine, I ran across a several ultra clean, low milaged 5 spd 6's, an had dreams of makin them into a nasty 6 with head turnin looks. i found my 8 and i'm happy with it. but man, if you tune yer car to a fever pitch an walk all over my 8, i'll give you my respect, cause you are a true gearhead, workin at a dissadvantage an overcoming the adverse majority. but we should all unite:

2.3's, 3.8's, 5.0's, 5.'4's, 5.8's, 7.5's an god knows what else against the common enemy...rice:cool:

AMEN GOOD NIGHT!
:D

the only car that ford has made in the last 20 years. That I like with a v-6 is the Ford Thunderbird SC...I think thats it...But a lot of cars with v-6 can and do haul...well you know...I.E...Grand Prix, Thunderbird SC, Nissan Skyline(never seen one in person), and 300ZX TT...and thats all I can think off right now...So not all V-6s suck...And having an automatic isn't that bad...let you and me drive on some L.A. Freeway you in your mustang with a stick...me in my automatic...then lets talk...just saying it to everyone...not just one person...but sticks are great...but you can fix up an automatic to be better then a stick anyday...Torque converter...and stuff...anyways...some civics are kinda scary...with the b16 engine...turbo'd...N20(nitrous oxide)..and everything else you can think up...or even the 71 I think 240zx...or what ever it is...the really only datsun...My friend drives...has a FORD 351 in it...it gets up and moves...and then the Monster Miatas....yeeeeeesssssssssssss...nothing can beat a nice american made v-8 though..imo...v-6 arent bad though...and btw the only engine besides ford engines I would own...would be a HEMI...And I will leave on that note...

Dont worry, I dont take things personally. I know my GT and I are the ****, nothing can phase me. :cool:

The worst is when a V6 owner says, "wait till I put my 302 in there...".

1. aha... sure buddy. Engine swap eh? This is not a honda buddy... Too much money, not enough brains?
2. "Wait till..." --> Isn't that the most anoying comment? Respond with shut your dill hole, and bring what you have.
3. 302? Why not choose the DOHC 4.6 (281)? Loads more power, and with a few bolt-ons will run big numbers reliably!

Bwahahahhahahaahah! :)

I never knew people could be such a**holes just because they have two more pistons than someone else who has the same love for the Mustang. It's really sad.:(

Are you referring to my comments?

I am not dissing V6 Mustangs. For the price... it is pretty hard to go faster. If you look carefully at my comments, I am dissing the ones that either rice up there car (untastefully), or the people that talk about senseless mods (like an engine swap to a pushrod 302 in a new mustang - WTF!!!!!!!).

True I am frustrated when I see a V6 riding on 18in... perhaps it's because I don't have em on my car, or perhaps I feel mad that the guy is spending xtra cash on mods, when it could have been put forth to a GT to start with. But in general, V6s are fine by me.

I got my girdfriend to call em "fakers" though... it's a game we play, basically the first one to call it wins.

I know, I had a v6 mustang for over 2years. I did stuff to it, and thought it was fast and cool, but after race after race having explorers, civics, integra's, minivans, etc etc killing me at the stoplights, I finally said, "this is rediculous. This isnt a performance car by any means." I got smart and sold it. Like I said earlier, I sold it for 9600 and bought a GT, with less miles, for 10k even!!! It just frustrates me that people with v6's don't seem to realize everything they are missing out on by driving them. You know deep down that you're not respected unless you're driving a stang with an 8, and that keeps the fun level at a minimum. I know, because I went through it. Do it for yourself!! Sell that stang and pick up a used GT!!! Trust me, you will NEVER look back!!! Please!! I'm not trying to be mean, I'm trying to help my fellow (legitimate) stangers.

I was talking to anyone that puts down another person, and their Mustang because they don't have a V8. As far as I see it if you have a Mustang you're cool with me. Even if it's something like a 74 Ghia with a four cylinder. The only time I don't like a stang is when someone has riced it out, but on the bright side it is a Mustang and not some Civic. Speaking of riced out Mustangs. Where I'm from you cannot go out on the road without seeing a V6 Mustang, because so many people own them. ONLY ONE OF THEM IS A RICE STANG!!!! I don't know why some people "hate V6 Mustangs", because that's the car that's keeping the Mustang alive. If the V6 goes we're gonna end up like the Camaro fans, because the V6 is the best selling Mustang out there. So if we don't have the V6 we don't have the V8. Think about that awhile.;)

StopLight, I have to disagree with you on that one. Every mustang doesnt have to be a race car. Some people would kill them selves in a v8, especially the younger crowd. Why do they even make a six? Gas mileage, insurance, and some people just dont care what their quarter mile time is, they just want to get to work, and still have a nice car. Hence, i have my 85 Gt and my wife has her 97 v6 convertible. Whats wrong with that? Its america and freedom of choice is what we are supposed to be all about. I hate the ricer look myself, thats why my cars are stock looking. But if someone wants to put a 6 foot wing on their car, hey, I am not driving it so who cares.

Listen, I love my V6. A V8 would only get me in trouble. The Mustang is an awesome looking car whether it is the V6 or the V8. Not everyone wants to Race...

Wow!!!! Excellent looking ride lsyacat:D

I have to say that I appreciate all the people that buy stangs. I think people buy these guys for their own reasons. Some people simply can't afford the cost (insurance / sticker) of a v8. Some don't want v8's because they other priorities. I like all stangs. When my son gets old enough to drive I am going to try and get him to buy a stang. They are dependable and very sporty.

I believe their are more v6 stangs then v8's. Look what happened to the the F-bodies. No sales. I would hate to see that happen to the stang.....

Thanks elliotness. She's my baby.:)

ricey v8 or attack of the 4.6 Saleen s281 Shinoda 99 Bullitt GT
 

i ran a ground of a peculiar type pony today leavin work; a sexually confused 96-(but not 99)GT one might call it. you tell me: stock body,(96-98) hood and ride height,(i.e ugly wheel gap)
huge silver stallion outline design on rear quarters and doors, silver thrust GT bullitt wheels,
black 96 vertical rear brake lights,
stock exhaust,
BOSS shinoda wing,(with BOSS impressioned on the wing's surface)
white"S281" decals on both sides of rear bumper,
99 "GT" stick on emblem on right side of trunk lid,
and painted red stock calipers)

:eek::confused::eek:

too much money is a dangerous thing, if it was legit an had somethin goin under there, i might see the reason for the wild eye candy, but jus felt like rice.:eek: (rice, its contagious). i saw it and stopped jus cause i was astonished to look at somthin of that much attention that wasn't at a car show. and i've been seein a lot of cool mustangs around here (i saw a nice clean lookin red 96 with 18's cobra r's yesterday lowered but nice an simple) but this was trip for me.

i thought ya couldn't buy shinoda parts from retail and that you had to go build one from their specs?

oh well, once again the system fails
:D

LOL. This whole topic has spawned off a totally new aspect. Not ricer bashing, but V6 Mustang bashing.

Here's something to make you open your eyes. I'd rather have a V6 than my GT. Truthfully. That way I can have a fox body for a fun car.

The idea there are no mods out there for the V-6 cars is asinine or that engine swaps don't take place is misinformed. I went to a little site called www.v6power.net. I found that several members made were VERY well informed. Questions on that board are getting answered that I wonder if the technical knowledge exists on this board to answer for our cars. They know their stuff, and I learned a great deal about the performance potential of those little engines. Powerhouses they may not be in stock form, but the new V6's will give a Gen 1 4.6L a run for it's money.

As far as the 302 vs the 281 SOHC or DOHC, with what I've found, I'd rather have a 302 for high performance. I don't have to worry about whipping rods through a multi-thousand dollar aluminum block. Not to mention you can have a 302 that will rape a DOHC 281 for less money. 320hp is under $2500 brand new, fully assembled. 340 is just a little more. For what it costs to get a built 281 DOHC engine, you could have a 400rwhp blown 302, and the car would be lighter, and it would be easier to work on.

Bottom line is the V6 is inexpensive, looks cool, and is a very respectable sporty little car. Sorry if I fully disagree with all the BS hating on it. Maybe you'd prefer not to have a Mustang at all? That's what the scenerio would be if not for the V6, which makes the money and pays for all the R&D on the GT and Cobra. The inaccurate statements, failure to see the big picture, and ego's here are out of place.