[Mr 5 0]

Kevin:

I checked that thread and you're right; it was going nowhere and was just a protracted argument, although not quite into the flame stage. Fair call.

SedanMan:

Sorry you didn't get to keep debating but we have to look at the whole thread, not just one person's position on it.

Once you've made your point(s) you should be able to simply stand on your position. The endless "Yes, but..." arguments are tedious and can lead to flaming when no one wants to be wrong and of course everyone wants to be right. Let it go.