2V intake manifold spacer
 

I saw an intake manifold spacer for the 4.6-2V in MM&FF made by Paul's High Performance. They claimed 7 hp on an otherwise stock motor. Does anyone have any experience with a spacer on these cars? I called and they said $200, which is a bit much for a spacer but not so bad compared to other mods if you actually get 7 hp out of it.

Instead of a spacer, save the money for a Bullit intake...

I guess the spacer is just for stock intakes. You wouldn't know if they have spacers for SVO intakes, would you?

If you think that a 1/4" piece of aluminum will give you ANY horsepower gains then you've got too much space between the ears.

Just another useless piece of hardware pushed on the unknowing by the unscrupulous.

Amen Wheeler! $200 for a spacer is ridiculous! They don't really do anything but if you must have a spacer make your own.

200 spacer ,,, can we say scam !!!!
 

I think many people will say the same ,,,, sounds like a SCAM !! That seems to be the wrost thing about haveing a 4.6L , they are always trying to sell some scam !! But when the after market opens up more for the 4.6l ,, them 5.0 will be put to rest by a far better engine !!!!!!

Spacers have been proven work on some combos and not on others. If anyone had one and could tell me that they gained 7 rwhp, then regardless of the fact that $200 is way overpriced for a spacer, compared to some other mods that give that much horsepower for the same or more money it would be worth it.
Anyone know where to find a Bullitt intake for a decent price?

I know where you can get a fully ported Bullitt intake kit with all the specific hardware you need for the swap. $1500.

:D

Hmmmmm SD, where's that?:D

I will like to see how that spacer would do if combined with a Bullit intake.

I do agree with "BLUE0GT" unless someone here have use this particular spacer we should not jump the gun and say that it does not work.

Yesterday I called the a Ford dealer and they are selling me the Bullit intake for $328 they said that it also includes the convertion kit.

I tried to get the dealer to install it for me but they refuse, the guy at the parts dpto told me to talk to the manager and maybe he will make an exception. Basically I just want to know how much they will charge me for it.

I wish we could have some facts if this spacer works, if it wasn't so much money I would give it a tried ...... after all the intake will already be out for a replacement anyway.

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Mustang 99GT
Under drive pulleys, subframes, 3.73, sport Lowering springs, strut tower brace, caster/camber plates, rear sway bar, tokiko illumina adjustable shocks/struts, upper&lower rear control arms, timing adjuster, 245x17 Michelin pilot, high performance brake pads,k&n filter (no silencer, no spare tire).

Was that price a typo? That 'conversion kit' surely doesn't come with the twin throttle body, does it?

Not to shoot you down but you are not going to get a complete bullitt intake with everything for the conversion for $328.

Bill

I will like to see how that spacer would do if combined with a Bullit intake.

Guess you haven't really looked at that "spacer". It sits between the plastic intake and the throttle body elbow. It won't work anywhere on the Bullitt intake.

Yesterday I called the a Ford dealer and they are selling me the Bullit intake for $328 they said that it also includes the convertion kit.

Hope you like that lower intake and the two gaskets you're gonna get. What are you going to pay for the rest of the parts you need???????? I offer the fully ported Bullitt Intake Package and I can tell you right now, you're only getting the lower section.

Too bad it's not only $328 for the Bullitt intake. I'd have one on order right know. Is it true that you need to swap alternators (To a 4G I think?) when switching to Bullitt since it the stocker won't mount correctly after the swap. I read this somewhere but I don't remember where. Is this true or am I just imagining I read this?

Yes you do need a Cobra, Mark VIII or Bullitt alternator with the intake swap. Bascially the stock alternator is too thick, these others are thinner for clearance.

Bill

"SLOW 97"

I know that there are few sites that have the bullit intake for less than $400, when I am not busy I will look for this websites for you.

I called my dealership again yesterday and they said that they will not install the intake for me because it will avoid my warranty:confused:

I remember that Mustang and fast Ford installed the bullit intake and I don't remember anything about changing the alternator, I might be wrong in this one but I will look for the magazine this weekend.

Yup, that's what I thought. I guess I'm not crazy. SD, does the alternator and the necessary hardware come with your Bullitt kit?

Have you installed one yet?...didn't think so. You do need a new alternator unless you feel like grinding the crap out of the stock one and that isn't even a guarenteed thing. How do I know this because I've done the install it's on my car and did the work myself.

You will not get the upper and lower intake and all the associated parts for under $400 I don't care who you are I've seen the cost from Ford on all the parts. The upper and lower alone are a hair over $400 at cost so even if you were a dealer you couldn't get better than that.

Bill

There's no way you'll find even close to the stuff you need to do the swap for $400. Like Mustang92 said, even at cost, it's over $400. The 'real' Bullitt intake is usually around $1500. You'll definitley need the alternator to do it right due to clearence issues.

Yup. Everything you need including the alternator and the mount. Only thing you'll need outside of the kit is the jumper harness for the alternator. Performance Automotive has it. It basically adapts the stock plug to the Cobra/Mark VIII/Bullitt alternator.

Rocket99,
Good luck with that low buck kit. I'd love to see the look on your face when you try to install it. By the way..........did that "reliable dealer source" inform you that the rest of the components will push the price over $1300?????? If you don't have a clue about the kit then why do you keep insisting that it is "less than $400"? I'm doing the kits, Bill has installed one on his car..........what more proof do you require?

YOU DO NOY NEED AN ALTERNATOR.

I checked the Mustang and fast frod magazine (JAN-FEB ) there is a 4 page article regarding a bullit intake installed in a 99GT.

This is what the magazine says;
" ON A NORMALLY ASPIRATED ENGINE THIS INTAKE IS VIRTUAL BOLT-ON, IF YOU HAVE A BLOWER SOME MODIFICATIONS WILL HAVE TO BE MADE FOR THIS YOU WILL NEED TO USE LONGER AFTREMARKET HOSE.

THE SECONF PROBLEM IS WITH THE ALTERNATOR BRACKET. AGAIN, WITH THE BLOWER, THE BELT DID NOT WANT TO LINE UP CORRECTLY WITH THE PULLEY, BUT THE SIMPLE FIX WAS TO JUST SHIM THE BRACKET WITH WASHERS :D
ON A NORMALLY ENGINE THIS WOULD NOT BE A PROBLEM, BUT THE BLOWER CAUSES THE BRACKET TO HAVE TO BE SHIMMED SLIGHTLY IN ORDER FOR THE BELT TO LINE UP PROPERLY.


"SD Wheeler"
if you don't believe what I am writting send me $1300 and I will send you the magazine

:D

I don't work for a ford dealer I am just a simple computer analyst, I do think that $1300 is a "rip of" but hey if someone wants to pay that much by all means go ahead. This is a forum where we tried helping each, the fact is that ford is salliing the kit for $328 and according to the magazine you do not need an alternator.

Just in case some here thought I was laying, someone in this forum also that that the bullit intake goes for less than $400

http://forums.mustangworks.com/showt...ghlight=bullit

Rocket and everyone else...

As some of you know, I moonlight on the weekends as a sales rep for Dallas Mustang. I just called work and had them look up the price in our system for the complete intake (minus the install kit and throttle body)

Retail Price: $1295

Anything from Ford\Ford Motorsport is expensive, so I sincerely doubt you can get that entire assembly for 328 dollars.

Now you might get the upper or lower... I don't know.

Also, retail price for the Bullit throttle body: $319
Could this be what they're advertising?

But as the entire assembly goes, retail price: $1295.

Now if there are some parts suppliers willing to take a HUGE loss on these parts, let me know, cause I want to get in on some of the action... ;)

Rocket99GT,
Simple computer analyst eh? Well......analyze this. You think I'm out in left field about this? Call Randy Stinchcomb at Universal Ford in Baltimore, MD. He has the complete Bullitt parts list.

I'm not going to argue with you anymore about this. You're wrong. I'm right.

Hammer,
Good luck with this one, Bud!

RocketGT, please do us all a favor and go buy this incredibly cheap intake and prove us all wrong. It's obvious that we don't know our heads from our ***$es when it comes to parts we've installed on our cars. I mean you read MM&FF and they always tell you every last detail that goes into the install. We must all be a bunch of crazies that enjoy pissing money away for no reason other than to make the rest of you buy useless parts. So please go out and buy this intake and try the install but whatever you do you must come back in here so we can all make fun of you for the next year when you wake up to reality!

P.S. The 99 GT the install was done on was Jimmy V's car and he does not have a stock GT alternator in the car.

After hearing your ignorance I'm nearly embarrased to call myself an analyst.

Bill

Well, I am sorry some of you guys are taking this a bit personal to a point of insulting me.....anyhow I am not going to get into a match of words with anyone here.

But once again I am not just talk but instead I have proof of what I saying. Here is the number for you to call 301-424-5000
the name of the dealership is Century Ford and they are located in Rockville MD (once again I don't work for them).

Once again I am apologizing if I offended anyone who is trying to make a business in this forum, better luck next time in case I spoil it:D

What's funny is you don't even realize that some of us have nothing to gain by telling you the truth think about it what am I trying to sell or would I gain? Nothing! Instead it's you that are not listening to people that have been there and done that and your claiming that you know what you are talking about because you read a magazine and talked to an idiot at Ford? Do you realize how many people called up Ford asking for the bullitt intake and the dope at the parts counter said $328 or $400? About a hundred and every time reality crashed in when they brought the parts list with them to get everything needed and they then realized that they only got the price on the lower or the upper because they wouldn't listen to those that knew. How do I know because I've gotten so many emails saying the same thing it's not funny.

You call up your parts guy and get prices on the following parts and post the prices. You'll see that you can't put the intake on for under $400. If you think that your right then prove it otherwise please stop trying to BS those that know.

Intake Manifold (Main) 2R3Z-9424-AA
Intake Manifold (Upper) 2R3Z-9A589-BA
Throttle Body 2R3Z-9E926-AB
Throttle Cable 1R3Z-9A758-BA
Throttle Control Bracket 1R3Z-9728-BA
T/B Gasket F7LZ-9E936-AA
Air Inlet Tube 1R3Z-9B659-CA
Cruise Control Cable 1R3Z-9A825-DA
Alternator Bracket 2R3Z-10153-AA
Alternator 7R3Z-10346-AARM
Fuel Rails 2R3Z-9F792-BA
Spacer Gasket 2R3Z-9E930-AA
"L" Bracket 2R3Z-9J444-AA
EGR Tube 1R3Z-9D477-CA
T-Stat Housing 1W7Z-8592-AA
Upper Radiator Hose 1R3Z-8260-DA
Crankcase Vent Tube 1R3Z-6C324-AA
IAC Valve Inlet Tube 2R3Z-9H308-BA
Intake Gasket YL3Z-9439-BA
Valve Cover(98 GT) F6AZ-6582-JA
Valve Cover(98 GT) F6AZ-6582-HA
Under Intake Hose 2R3Z-18663-CA
Jumper for rear cross over 1R3Z-18472-DA

Bill

Trust me Rocket, if things had gotten dicey, the thread would have been flattened "Hammer" style... ;)

I REALLY hope you're correct, a full Bullit intake kit for under 400 dollars is a steal. But to be honest, I have contacts who do this for a living. And none of them have heard of such a thing...

I called them, and sure enough: they're selling a Bullit Intake kit for 306.25.... isn't this a different price that was quoted before.

The parts dude wasn't too knowkedgeable and couldn't tell me what came in the "kit", or but he was "pretty sure" it included the whole intake.

To be honest, I wasn't instilled with very much confidence he knew what the heck he was talking about....

Its Ford Part #2R3Z9424AB, Hey SD, just for giggles, can you reference what that part # actually is?

I can tell you that it's the main intake only and $306 for just the main is about right. Far from the complete kit.

Bill

Mustang92 - Was there a noticeable improvement in your ET after swapping over to the Bullitt intake? Have you had your car dyno'd with your mods?

Bill's right. That is simply the "lower" manifold assembly. It's not even complete enough to bolt on the throttle body (which is on backorder). You have to have the upper inlet to do that. My parts list for the complete Bullitt package is 30 line items.

Let me tell you something about the "average" parts counter guy. He/she is simply someone who shows up and sells whatever is asked for. A vast majority aren't concerned with you or I going fast or saving any money to do it. The do their job and go home. I don't really have a problem with that. There are others, however, who are very performance oriented and will take the time to do the research and gather the necessary part numbers for you. Randy Stinchcomb is one of those people. Joe Charles is another. These are two people who run Modular Mustangs and are very attuned to the aftermarket. I value their help and their friendship. Between the two of them, I have been able to do good things for my customers. Here's an example:

I can buy a brand new GT block from Joe Charles and have it shipped from Georgia to my shop in Texas for less money than what Tommie Vaughn Motors (here in Houston!) will sell me the block for. A lot less. Tommie Vaughn is one of the biggest FRPP dealers in the country but Joe can beat them every time. Why? Because he wants to see the modular cars prosper. Tommie Vaughn simply won't work with engine builders and shop owners the way that Joe and Randy will.

Rocket,
You're not offending me with that price or the information about where to get it. To be honest.......I don't even pay that much for that particular part. You're offending me with your blanket trust in some ding-dong behind a Ford counter who can't figure out whether to scratch his watch or wind his butt. Since you seem to believe him then please, by all means, go get after it. I will warn you about something though..............both Bill and I are people who will rattle off "I told you so" every chance we get. :D

Basically what I expected was a tenth ET improvement and I've gotten that so far. I say so far because my MPH is up 1.5 - 2 MPH on average so I know there is more ET to be gained yet. I'm switching tires and have some adjustments to make still.

Last dyno was with old exhaust set up and without bullitt intake at 253RWHP and 292RWTQ. I'd like to get it dynoed again but I've been really busy lately.

Bill