Need help quick, easy question I'm just stupid

Agent_4573 · 07-31-2002, 06:22 PM

Dumb question time. I'm replacing the throttle body and mass air. I got the mass air out and the throttle body off, but i can't seem to remove the egr plate. How do you do it? I have to be missing bolts somewhere and the suns going down, I'm running outta light! Also, I didn't buy a bigger egr plate, so would it be wiser to bore out the stock one, or leave it the same size? I'm probably gonna have the intake port matched to 65mm throttle body in the spring, but how much performance am I gonna lose if i just leave the egr plate the same size?

jason 95gts · 07-31-2002, 06:51 PM

I'm not 100% sure but I think if you look at the face of the egr where the T-BODY mounts to you might see 2 screws or bolts I think they are in the corners, I once saw a buddy take his off mine is different on the 95

HiFlow5 0 · 07-31-2002, 07:24 PM

The TB is more then likely just stuck on there pretty good. I had to use a hammer to lightly tap mine off when I swapped it out. If I were you I would get and egr plat that matches you TB. There's really no point in getting your intake port matched to you TB if your egr plate is still the stock size. Its just gonna restrict air flow and make the in coming air more turbulent.

LX5liter · 07-31-2002, 07:50 PM

HiFlow is right, its just stuck on. I found when I took mine off the studs had actually warped and I had to beat it back on too.

Agent_4573 · 07-31-2002, 09:06 PM

SOrry, I meant the when i port matched the intake i was gonna have them match up the egr plate also. And the throttle body came off easily, its the egr plate i can figure out how to get off. Does it just slide off the studs too?

HiFlow5 0 · 08-01-2002, 01:45 AM

I'm sorry, I meant to say the egr plate should come right off as well. Its probably just stuck on from years of heat and such. You might be able to bore out the egr plate, but coolant runs through the egr plate to cool in coming air. I'm not sure how close the coolant flows to the opening on the egr plate. Meaning if you bore the egr plate you might hit the water passage, but not totally sure on that.

chris91LX · 08-01-2002, 08:15 AM

It's just stuck, the eger plate comes off the same as the tb. IMO your better off getting the matching egr plate.

1hot5.0 · 08-01-2002, 11:52 PM

Sorry I can not help you out. Just remember that no question is stupid.

silver_pilate · 08-02-2002, 10:07 AM

I agree that it is simply stuck on.

However, you need to get a matching EGR spacer for the new throttle body. Simply putting on a larger TB without the correct size EGR isn't going to do jack for you as you still retain the restriction. Given, it is restricted now over a smaller area, but your intake only flows as good as the most restricted part. Port matching the intake to the throttle body is a good idea, but you're not going to be able to bore the EGR plate much past 55-57 mm if I were guessing. Maybe you can get it to 60mm without hitting the water passages, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Go ahead and spring for the EGR plate.

--nathan

07-31-2002, 06:22 PM	#1
Agent_4573 Registered Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 375	Need help quick, easy question I'm just stupid Dumb question time. I'm replacing the throttle body and mass air. I got the mass air out and the throttle body off, but i can't seem to remove the egr plate. How do you do it? I have to be missing bolts somewhere and the suns going down, I'm running outta light! Also, I didn't buy a bigger egr plate, so would it be wiser to bore out the stock one, or leave it the same size? I'm probably gonna have the intake port matched to 65mm throttle body in the spring, but how much performance am I gonna lose if i just leave the egr plate the same size? __________________ '89 LX 5.0, off-road h pipe, flowmaster muffs, underdrive pulleys, rebuilt WC T-5, King Cobra Clutch, 65mm throttle body, Explorer Upper/GT40 lower, Lakewood Rear Lift Bars. 76mm C&L Mass air w/ inlet pipe, Twisted wedge heads w/ stage 2 port,polish, MAC equal length shorties, Billet AFPR, 255LPH fuel pump, fresh low end w/ 10.5:1 compression. If anyone ever wants to go to Raceway Park in Englishtown New Jersey, give me a shout. RICER HATERS CLUB MEMBER 87! www.ricehatersclub.com

07-31-2002, 06:51 PM	#2
jason 95gts Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: belle chasse La. Posts: 47	I'm not 100% sure but I think if you look at the face of the egr where the T-BODY mounts to you might see 2 screws or bolts I think they are in the corners, I once saw a buddy take his off mine is different on the 95 __________________ DSS306 SHORTBLOCK,STAGE2 VICTOR JR. HEADS,AEROMOTIVE FUEL SYSTEM,TFS INTAKE,50# INJECTORS,MSD6AL,D-1 PROCHARGER,TKO TRANS.,CENTERFORCE CLUTCH,MAC LONGTUBE HEADERS,FLOWMASTERS,OFF-ROAD H-PIPE,3.73 GEARS, 6 POINT ROLL CAGE, ALL IN A 1995 GTS

07-31-2002, 07:24 PM	#3
HiFlow5 0 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Springfield, Ma, usa Posts: 706	The TB is more then likely just stuck on there pretty good. I had to use a hammer to lightly tap mine off when I swapped it out. If I were you I would get and egr plat that matches you TB. There's really no point in getting your intake port matched to you TB if your egr plate is still the stock size. Its just gonna restrict air flow and make the in coming air more turbulent. __________________ NewEngland Auto www.baystategearheads.com -91 Mustang Coupe, ex 4cyl (sold) -99 F150, 3" lift, 35" Procomps, Magnaflow exhaust

07-31-2002, 07:50 PM	#4
LX5liter dude5l Join Date: May 2001 Location: Grande Prairie, Alberta, Canada Posts: 603	HiFlow is right, its just stuck on. I found when I took mine off the studs had actually warped and I had to beat it back on too. __________________ Good luck! Brad R. 1992 L.X. 5.0 coupe MODS: A few little bolt ons New Best time ...11.60 @ 128 mph @ 2000+ ft altitude. Rice Haters Club member #39 Users rides #2542

07-31-2002, 09:06 PM	#5
Agent_4573 Registered Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 375	SOrry, I meant the when i port matched the intake i was gonna have them match up the egr plate also. And the throttle body came off easily, its the egr plate i can figure out how to get off. Does it just slide off the studs too? __________________ '89 LX 5.0, off-road h pipe, flowmaster muffs, underdrive pulleys, rebuilt WC T-5, King Cobra Clutch, 65mm throttle body, Explorer Upper/GT40 lower, Lakewood Rear Lift Bars. 76mm C&L Mass air w/ inlet pipe, Twisted wedge heads w/ stage 2 port,polish, MAC equal length shorties, Billet AFPR, 255LPH fuel pump, fresh low end w/ 10.5:1 compression. If anyone ever wants to go to Raceway Park in Englishtown New Jersey, give me a shout. RICER HATERS CLUB MEMBER 87! www.ricehatersclub.com

08-01-2002, 01:45 AM	#6
HiFlow5 0 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Springfield, Ma, usa Posts: 706	I'm sorry, I meant to say the egr plate should come right off as well. Its probably just stuck on from years of heat and such. You might be able to bore out the egr plate, but coolant runs through the egr plate to cool in coming air. I'm not sure how close the coolant flows to the opening on the egr plate. Meaning if you bore the egr plate you might hit the water passage, but not totally sure on that. __________________ NewEngland Auto www.baystategearheads.com -91 Mustang Coupe, ex 4cyl (sold) -99 F150, 3" lift, 35" Procomps, Magnaflow exhaust

08-01-2002, 08:15 AM	#7
chris91LX Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Suburban Chicago, Hanover Park Posts: 695	It's just stuck, the eger plate comes off the same as the tb. IMO your better off getting the matching egr plate. __________________ My Ford Club http://www.midwestfords.org/ Best time N/A 12.9 @ 107 1.711 60' 125 shot - 12.04 @ 113 1.59 60'

08-01-2002, 11:52 PM	#8
1hot5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Arizona Posts: 172	Sorry I can not help you out. Just remember that no question is stupid. __________________ 91 Mustang LX 5.0 Convertible AOD Mdifications: K&N filter, Mac Catback, BBK aluminum u/d pulleys.

08-02-2002, 10:07 AM	#9
silver_pilate DURKA DURKA!! Join Date: Sep 1997 Location: Lubbock, TX...(TX panhandle) Posts: 1,418	I agree that it is simply stuck on. However, you need to get a matching EGR spacer for the new throttle body. Simply putting on a larger TB without the correct size EGR isn't going to do jack for you as you still retain the restriction. Given, it is restricted now over a smaller area, but your intake only flows as good as the most restricted part. Port matching the intake to the throttle body is a good idea, but you're not going to be able to bore the EGR plate much past 55-57 mm if I were guessing. Maybe you can get it to 60mm without hitting the water passages, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Go ahead and spring for the EGR plate. --nathan __________________ '91 GT, Coast 347, 9.5:1 compression, full intake, Wolverine 1087 cam, exhaust, Keith Craft ported Windsor Jr. Irons (235 cfm intake, 195 cfm exhaust), AOD, PI 3500 converter, Lentech valve body, 3.73's (4.10's in the works), and Yokohama ES100's out back. Daily Car: '04 Infiniti G35 Sedan 6MT

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