High 12's ??

edsb17g · 12-10-2002, 07:32 PM

Is there any way a 99 gt can get in to the high 12's N/A with just bolt on performance mods or am I hopeing for to much? what do you guys think?

MiracleMax · 12-10-2002, 08:01 PM

Well if your real real good with an M5 car and no slicks, you will need to knock off .71 of a second to break the 12 second barrier. If your me then you'll need to knock off 1.51 seconds.

Isn't the rule of thumb 10 hp for every .10 of a second?

If thats the case, then your looking for 80 to 100 hp.

I'm guessing that the best you'll get with pulleys, ignition, cold-air, full exhaust (long tubes), spacer, and a tbody is 30 or 40 hp.

a tbody, no air silencer, and after cat exhaust seems to be worth a whopping 6 hp.

If you mean bolt including heads and cams, then I think you might be able to squeeze some more out of it.

mustanggt_50 · 12-10-2002, 08:46 PM

a set of gears will help alot, 3.73's or 4.10's depending on what you want of course.
take some weight out of the car, or even add slicks.

Ares · 12-10-2002, 10:38 PM

Look in my sig. Nothing but bolt on parts.

Hammer · 12-11-2002, 12:37 AM

What tires were you running to get the 1.76 60 foot?

Its all in the launch...

Mustang92 · 12-11-2002, 11:52 AM

Yes it is possible. See sig...

Bill

Ares · 12-11-2002, 06:34 PM

Hammer - I'm using Hoosier QuickTimes currently at track and that 1.76 was spinning hard off line.

I only launch at 3000rpm and shallow stage.

Hammer · 12-11-2002, 06:47 PM

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I'm using Hoosier QuickTimes currently at track

Well that explains it!

You're running about similar ETs at 106 mph as I am at 113-115...

Gotta love stock sized street tires and stock control arms...

My 60 ft is whenever I damn well get there...

stangt00 · 12-16-2002, 06:02 PM

I ran low 13's without slicks. Well, when I had my car dyno'd, they said it was one of the highest HP they seen with the mods I have done to it. That just goes to show that the same identical setups can result in different horsepower. Reason for this is because the manufacturer has tolerances for the engine parts. The closer to ideal # that the tolerance is, the more it will produce over one not as close. With slicks I might be able to break into the 12's, on a nice COOL day in ideal conditions, but probably not on a regular basis. One other thing that I noticed. I dropped 1.6 off my time the same night when I took the right headlight assembly off the car. With the C&L setup, its forced cold air to the intake.

Hammer · 12-16-2002, 06:37 PM

Quote:

I dropped 1.6 off my time the same night when I took the right headlight assembly off the car. With the C&L setup, its forced cold air to the intake.

Considering the HP difference it would take to reduce an ET by 1.6 seconds on identical runs, I'm thinking a good launch had more to do with it then removing a headlight....

stangt00 · 12-16-2002, 09:48 PM

Sure, just take away my thunder why dont you.

It did help in the high end though. I think my 60ft was about .3 better, so all in all it did help. Like the pic of that one guy's car who replied with his 12 sec run on add ons. He had the same headlight out using the same mass air I use. Ask him what he thinks.

12-10-2002, 07:32 PM	#1
edsb17g Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: ohio Posts: 3	High 12's ?? Is there any way a 99 gt can get in to the high 12's N/A with just bolt on performance mods or am I hopeing for to much? what do you guys think?

12-10-2002, 08:01 PM	#2
MiracleMax Registered Member Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: Hayes, Va, USA Posts: 798	Well if your real real good with an M5 car and no slicks, you will need to knock off .71 of a second to break the 12 second barrier. If your me then you'll need to knock off 1.51 seconds. Isn't the rule of thumb 10 hp for every .10 of a second? If thats the case, then your looking for 80 to 100 hp. I'm guessing that the best you'll get with pulleys, ignition, cold-air, full exhaust (long tubes), spacer, and a tbody is 30 or 40 hp. a tbody, no air silencer, and after cat exhaust seems to be worth a whopping 6 hp. If you mean bolt including heads and cams, then I think you might be able to squeeze some more out of it. __________________ 2002 5M GT (99% stock) 1991 5M LX (30% stock) patiently awaiting my satin silver 07 Mach 1, and don't forget the shaker

12-10-2002, 08:46 PM	#3
mustanggt_50 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 91	a set of gears will help alot, 3.73's or 4.10's depending on what you want of course. take some weight out of the car, or even add slicks. __________________ 87 GT T-roof (needs paint) lol, rebuilt motor and trans, AOD - stage 2 shift kit, 3.73 gears - auburn posi, Dynomax Super Turbo Cat Back, FRPP 155lph fuel pump, K&N filter - air silencer removed, subframe connectors, strut tower brace. 88 GT T-roof 1989 LX Coupe 5.0 - 5spd Rice Haters Club member#105

12-10-2002, 10:38 PM	#4
Ares Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Saxonburg, PA, USA Posts: 236	Look in my sig. Nothing but bolt on parts. __________________ Ed.. My Mustangs webpage NMRA M/M 7222 2000 Mustang GT - 5 speed Race weight w/o driver 3086lbs, 3250 w/ driver Best 1/4mile run to date: 12.79@105.96, 60' 1.76sec.(10-27-02) Best MPH 106.03(10-27-02)4.10gears

12-11-2002, 12:37 AM	#5
Hammer AKA "Dr. Evil" Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: South Fork Ranch Posts: 1,721	What tires were you running to get the 1.76 60 foot? Its all in the launch... __________________ Uncle Sam "What the hell is up with all the gauges? Calling Captain Kirk, your ride awaits... Phasers on stun...."

12-11-2002, 11:52 AM	#6
Mustang92 Drag Racer! Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Lake Worth, FL USA Posts: 757	Yes it is possible. See sig... Bill __________________ 2000 GT VRS O/R X, Dynomax Bullets, Steeda Pulleys, Pro-M 80MM, 4.30s, UPR Pro Series Suspension, UPR Tubular K-member, MAC Longtubes, Bullitt Intake, TKO, VT Engine Stage 1 NA Cams, SCT Tune. 285 RWHP/296 RWTQ 11.97 @ 113.20 M/M 100, 7085 www.uprproducts.com www.ponyexpressperformance.com www.modulardepot.com

12-11-2002, 06:34 PM	#7
Ares Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Saxonburg, PA, USA Posts: 236	Hammer - I'm using Hoosier QuickTimes currently at track and that 1.76 was spinning hard off line. I only launch at 3000rpm and shallow stage. __________________ Ed.. My Mustangs webpage NMRA M/M 7222 2000 Mustang GT - 5 speed Race weight w/o driver 3086lbs, 3250 w/ driver Best 1/4mile run to date: 12.79@105.96, 60' 1.76sec.(10-27-02) Best MPH 106.03(10-27-02)4.10gears

12-16-2002, 06:02 PM	#9
stangt00 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Philadelphia PA Posts: 143	Look at me I ran low 13's without slicks. Well, when I had my car dyno'd, they said it was one of the highest HP they seen with the mods I have done to it. That just goes to show that the same identical setups can result in different horsepower. Reason for this is because the manufacturer has tolerances for the engine parts. The closer to ideal # that the tolerance is, the more it will produce over one not as close. With slicks I might be able to break into the 12's, on a nice COOL day in ideal conditions, but probably not on a regular basis. One other thing that I noticed. I dropped 1.6 off my time the same night when I took the right headlight assembly off the car. With the C&L setup, its forced cold air to the intake. __________________ 2000 GT 80mm Pro-M mass air, 24lb injectors, 75mm BBK T/B, K&N Filter Cold Air, 1/2" Phenolic intake spacer, Underdrive Pulleys, Dyno Tuned Autologic Chip, FMS Shorty Headers, Mac Prochamber 2 1/2" Off Road H pipe, 2 Chamber Flowmasters, Steeda lowering springs. Steeda Tri-Ax Short Throw shifter, Steeda Power slot rotors w/ Hawk Pro pads, 3.73 FRP Gears. Headwork and Comp cams install in progress.

12-16-2002, 09:48 PM	#11
stangt00 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Philadelphia PA Posts: 143	Sure, just take away my thunder why dont you. It did help in the high end though. I think my 60ft was about .3 better, so all in all it did help. Like the pic of that one guy's car who replied with his 12 sec run on add ons. He had the same headlight out using the same mass air I use. Ask him what he thinks. __________________ 2000 GT 80mm Pro-M mass air, 24lb injectors, 75mm BBK T/B, K&N Filter Cold Air, 1/2" Phenolic intake spacer, Underdrive Pulleys, Dyno Tuned Autologic Chip, FMS Shorty Headers, Mac Prochamber 2 1/2" Off Road H pipe, 2 Chamber Flowmasters, Steeda lowering springs. Steeda Tri-Ax Short Throw shifter, Steeda Power slot rotors w/ Hawk Pro pads, 3.73 FRP Gears. Headwork and Comp cams install in progress.

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