Kids at school are diss'n my STANG!!!

pxcr_600 · 11-09-2001, 09:38 PM

Hey guys,
I got a 5.0 stang. Its all stock and the kids at school think that they can beat my stang with their Jap imports. There is even this kid who clames his '91 Crown Vic can beat my 5.0. Well i want to make sure this ain't going to happen. I just got a job and its time for some upgrades. I want all the input i can get for engine upgrades. Im thinking to spending about 1000$. Now remember, i have to drive this car in the Minnesota winters so... I don't car about sliping and sliding around, i just want it to be reliable and start up when i need it to. Thanks a ton!!!! And i don't want any NITROS because all the import cars have it and im sick of them, and their 4 cyl. nitros and superchargers.
Thanks a ton!!!

Pxcr_600

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Stang Runner · 11-09-2001, 10:11 PM

ok I will try to help. What year is it and the frist thing to do is headers and Muffers OO and a K&N and make sure the timming is set to about 12-16 or so and use 92-93 gas. Pulleys too so the K&N, Headers Pulleys will be about $305 and A nice set of Muffers $150 or so $450 next get a set of gears, about 180 if you do the work or about $400 or so. This should help out alot!!! Good Luck!!!!!

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Drive Train: 3.55, T-5z,

Real power STUFF I Have and will put some time: Mac cold intake, 70MM TB, Valve covers (COOL ONES)255 Fuel pump NOS Dry 75HP, AFR 165 58cc, GT-40 Intake.
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Unit 5302 · 11-10-2001, 12:27 AM

Well dude, you live about 15min away from me. Heh. What kinda 5.0 stang you got? There's a lot of difference as the 5.0 was made from 1968-1995.

Is it a stick, or a manual? That Crown Vic is gonna get thrashed by almost any 5.0 Mustang ever built.

dinomite · 11-10-2001, 12:28 AM

What year is your car? Hardtop? Auto or manual? It will definently beat that crown vic (unless its an auto vert), an will most likely beat any of that jap trash (what sort of stuff are you up against?)

3.73 gears ($250) + installation ($2-300)
Headers ($200)
high flow cat H-pipe ($300)
k&n ($50)
remove air silencer (free)

You should do the exhaust yourself, as it isn't to very hard, as well as the air silencer and filter. The gears need to be installed by a professional. If you do it yourself, you not only save the money, but you get to tell those fools who don't know sh1t that you do.

GreeceLightning · 11-10-2001, 01:04 AM

"Is it a stick, or a manual? "

Lol, is that a yes or no question? Just messin' with ya. And $250 for some 373's sounds really high. I've seen them on-line and in my Summit catalog for $180.

abesmith69 · 11-10-2001, 01:32 AM

Hey sorry to butt in, but I saw you guys were talking about removing an air silencer, can anyone give me some directions on how to do that ?

Thanks guys,
Abe

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1990 Mustang GT Convertible, Blue with Grey ground effects and white top. Black Leather interior pw,pl,ps,pm, premium sound system. All stock =(

jimberg · 11-10-2001, 11:05 AM

You live just up the road from me, too. Have you ever seen this Mustang?

That would be me.

The first thing you should do is give it a complete tune-up. I'd stay away from gears if it's your winter driver. In fact, I'd recommend you invest in some Blizzak snow tires. Mustangs are not known for winter traction, but it can be done. I did it for several years.

We do need to know what year your car is to give you better advice.

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351W 89 Mustang GT Convertible

Unit 5302 · 11-10-2001, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimberg:
You live just up the road from me, too. Have you ever seen this Mustang?

That would be me.

The first thing you should do is give it a complete tune-up. I'd stay away from gears if it's your winter driver. In fact, I'd recommend you invest in some Blizzak snow tires. Mustangs are not known for winter traction, but it can be done. I did it for several years.

We do need to know what year your car is to give you better advice.

I think I thrashed that car a little while back. Somethin like 20 carlengths to 100? I could be mistaken.

Hehe.

As for the stick or manual, obviously I meant auto or manual. I was doing some last minute editing, whoops. Brain fart!

[This message has been edited by Unit 5302 (edited 11-10-2001).]

2FastLX · 11-10-2001, 12:51 PM

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jimberg · 11-11-2001, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Unit 5302 wrote: I think I thrashed that car a little while back. Somethin like 20 carlengths to 100? I could be mistaken.

Yeah, I think I remember that race, Unit. I was waiting in the left turn lane with some wild-eyed lunatic next to me driving a Mustang. When the green arrow and green light came on I turned left and he took off in a big puff of blue smoke.

That was you!!??

Unit 5302 · 11-11-2001, 11:43 AM

Yeah!!! How'd you guess? Anyway, I kicked your ***. Now quit making fun of my blue smoke! I do have 155k now, lol

dinomite · 11-11-2001, 11:59 AM

The air silencer is in the pasenger side fenderwall, opposite the airbox (where the air filter is). It was put on to quiet the air intake (hence the name) but doesn't do much except for restricting the intake. To remove it, you take out the air filter to begin with, as well as the top of the air box, you can just separate it from the MAF and set it aside. Then, using a 10mm wrench (I think), remove the 3 or 4 bolts holding the rest of the airbox on and the air silcencer will fall off into the fender. now you have to wrestle it out of there and you're done.

pxcr_600 · 11-11-2001, 05:27 PM

Ok, its a '85 mustang GT, manual, I already got a set of mac headers for it, im just going to put straight pipes on it and turbo tubes. Then after the exaust im going to put a big cam in it and that should be good. How much HP ya think it would have then? Thanks for the help!!

Unit 5302 · 11-11-2001, 08:07 PM

Alrighty. Run down time.

1985 Ford Mustang GT
Power
210hp
260lb/ft.

The 1985 car will benefit greatly from the exhuast modifications, and probably more from a good intake than a cam. I don't know how much clearance there is in that engine for bigger cams, quite frankly, you really don't want a "big cam". You should have the rest of your setup optimized before going for the cam swap. I know the 1983-1984 4bbl intakes were a joke. Your heads are worse than your cam, probably, but all in all you should have no problems waxxing ricers and that sorry *** 91 Crown Vic.

The 91 Crown Vic
Power
302 Single Exhaust 160hp
302 Dual Exhaust 170hp
351 VV Carbed. 180hp
Torque
302 Single Exhaust 260lb/ft
302 Dual Exhaust 270lb/ft
351 VV Carbed. 280lb/ft.

Add on the fact the Vic has 1000lbs more than your car and an AOD and you'll destroy him.

RED92LX50 · 11-11-2001, 08:59 PM

Hey jimberg - I hope it's just bad lighting...your hood isn't white is it... :-)

jimberg · 11-11-2001, 09:06 PM

My hood is white. I'm in dire need of an entire paint job and some body repair, but I am waiting until I get all of the mechanical stuff done. I tend to get grease all over when I'm working.

I'm sure it won't be any different when I do my brakes.

RED92LX50 · 11-11-2001, 09:10 PM

Yeah, I was just kidding...I still have the stupid luggage rack on the back of my vert. Who the hell ever actually used that stupid thing!

Coupe5oh · 11-11-2001, 09:38 PM

Unit, blue smoke at 155k? i have 180k, hmmm, maybe mine has been rebuilt in its day? no history of it on carfax, oh well.

Unit 5302 · 11-11-2001, 10:22 PM

Well, you do have a car that had TONS of what were probably highway miles put on. The blue smoke deal was a little joke, but I'm sure it has to smoke a little. It's using some oil now.

Coupe5oh · 11-12-2001, 12:33 AM

Thats a good point unit, my car also lived all of its life with an oil cooler, as it still does.

11-09-2001, 09:38 PM	#1
pxcr_600 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Elk River, MN Posts: 44	Kids at school are diss'n my STANG!!! Hey guys, I got a 5.0 stang. Its all stock and the kids at school think that they can beat my stang with their Jap imports. There is even this kid who clames his '91 Crown Vic can beat my 5.0. Well i want to make sure this ain't going to happen. I just got a job and its time for some upgrades. I want all the input i can get for engine upgrades. Im thinking to spending about 1000$. Now remember, i have to drive this car in the Minnesota winters so... I don't car about sliping and sliding around, i just want it to be reliable and start up when i need it to. Thanks a ton!!!! And i don't want any NITROS because all the import cars have it and im sick of them, and their 4 cyl. nitros and superchargers. Thanks a ton!!! Pxcr_600 ------------------ Balls to the Walls

11-11-2001, 11:59 AM	#12
dinomite The Dude Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 1,262	Air silencer The air silencer is in the pasenger side fenderwall, opposite the airbox (where the air filter is). It was put on to quiet the air intake (hence the name) but doesn't do much except for restricting the intake. To remove it, you take out the air filter to begin with, as well as the top of the air box, you can just separate it from the MAF and set it aside. Then, using a 10mm wrench (I think), remove the 3 or 4 bolts holding the rest of the airbox on and the air silcencer will fall off into the fender. now you have to wrestle it out of there and you're done. __________________ AIM: dinomite1, roadracestang http://dinomite.net

11-11-2001, 05:27 PM	#13
pxcr_600 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Elk River, MN Posts: 44	Ok dude i got more info for ya Ok, its a '85 mustang GT, manual, I already got a set of mac headers for it, im just going to put straight pipes on it and turbo tubes. Then after the exaust im going to put a big cam in it and that should be good. How much HP ya think it would have then? Thanks for the help!! __________________ Balls to the Walls

11-11-2001, 08:59 PM	#15
RED92LX50 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: Fairfax, VA Posts: 220	Hey jimberg - I hope it's just bad lighting...your hood isn't white is it... :-) __________________ 1992 LX 5.0 Convertible Red/Blk Gears, Exhaust, bolt-ons... R.H.C. #51

11-11-2001, 09:06 PM	#16
jimberg Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Rogers, MN Posts: 2,089	My hood is white. I'm in dire need of an entire paint job and some body repair, but I am waiting until I get all of the mechanical stuff done. I tend to get grease all over when I'm working. I'm sure it won't be any different when I do my brakes. __________________ 351W 89 Mustang GT Convertible

11-09-2001, 10:11 PM	#2
Stang Runner Registered Member Join Date: Jun 1999 Location: Walker, MI, USA Posts: 1,202	ok I will try to help. What year is it and the frist thing to do is headers and Muffers OO and a K&N and make sure the timming is set to about 12-16 or so and use 92-93 gas. Pulleys too so the K&N, Headers Pulleys will be about $305 and A nice set of Muffers $150 or so $450 next get a set of gears, about 180 if you do the work or about $400 or so. This should help out alot!!! Good Luck!!!!! ------------------ Engine: steel mounts, Under drive pulleys, K&N, Home ported Lower Intake, No power steering, No A/C Drive Train: 3.55, T-5z, Real power STUFF I Have and will put some time: Mac cold intake, 70MM TB, Valve covers (COOL ONES)255 Fuel pump NOS Dry 75HP, AFR 165 58cc, GT-40 Intake. Next to get: Rocker Arms,Cam,Injectors 24, What might I need???See It at www.computerconquest.com

11-10-2001, 12:27 AM	#3
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	Well dude, you live about 15min away from me. Heh. What kinda 5.0 stang you got? There's a lot of difference as the 5.0 was made from 1968-1995. Is it a stick, or a manual? That Crown Vic is gonna get thrashed by almost any 5.0 Mustang ever built.

11-10-2001, 12:28 AM	#4
dinomite The Dude Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 1,262	What year is your car? Hardtop? Auto or manual? It will definently beat that crown vic (unless its an auto vert), an will most likely beat any of that jap trash (what sort of stuff are you up against?) 3.73 gears ($250) + installation ($2-300) Headers ($200) high flow cat H-pipe ($300) k&n ($50) remove air silencer (free) You should do the exhaust yourself, as it isn't to very hard, as well as the air silencer and filter. The gears need to be installed by a professional. If you do it yourself, you not only save the money, but you get to tell those fools who don't know sh1t that you do.

11-10-2001, 01:04 AM	#5
GreeceLightning Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Casselberry, FL USA Posts: 28	"Is it a stick, or a manual? " Lol, is that a yes or no question? Just messin' with ya. And $250 for some 373's sounds really high. I've seen them on-line and in my Summit catalog for $180.

11-10-2001, 01:32 AM	#6
abesmith69 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Ocala, FL, USA Posts: 62	Hey sorry to butt in, but I saw you guys were talking about removing an air silencer, can anyone give me some directions on how to do that ? Thanks guys, Abe ------------------ 1990 Mustang GT Convertible, Blue with Grey ground effects and white top. Black Leather interior pw,pl,ps,pm, premium sound system. All stock =(

11-10-2001, 11:05 AM	#7
jimberg Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Rogers, MN Posts: 2,089	You live just up the road from me, too. Have you ever seen this Mustang? That would be me. The first thing you should do is give it a complete tune-up. I'd stay away from gears if it's your winter driver. In fact, I'd recommend you invest in some Blizzak snow tires. Mustangs are not known for winter traction, but it can be done. I did it for several years. We do need to know what year your car is to give you better advice. ------------------ 351W 89 Mustang GT Convertible

11-10-2001, 12:51 PM	#9
2FastLX The Photoshop Guru Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Mecca, Indiana Posts: 1,419	gears, pulleys, exhaust, advance timing, drag radials. ------------------ Gunning for 12's! Buy your parts here ICQ# 42269241

11-11-2001, 11:43 AM	#11
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	Yeah!!! How'd you guess? Anyway, I kicked your ***. Now quit making fun of my blue smoke! I do have 155k now, lol

11-11-2001, 08:07 PM	#14
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	Alrighty. Run down time. 1985 Ford Mustang GT Power 210hp 260lb/ft. The 1985 car will benefit greatly from the exhuast modifications, and probably more from a good intake than a cam. I don't know how much clearance there is in that engine for bigger cams, quite frankly, you really don't want a "big cam". You should have the rest of your setup optimized before going for the cam swap. I know the 1983-1984 4bbl intakes were a joke. Your heads are worse than your cam, probably, but all in all you should have no problems waxxing ricers and that sorry *** 91 Crown Vic. The 91 Crown Vic Power 302 Single Exhaust 160hp 302 Dual Exhaust 170hp 351 VV Carbed. 180hp Torque 302 Single Exhaust 260lb/ft 302 Dual Exhaust 270lb/ft 351 VV Carbed. 280lb/ft. Add on the fact the Vic has 1000lbs more than your car and an AOD and you'll destroy him.

11-11-2001, 09:10 PM	#17
RED92LX50 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: Fairfax, VA Posts: 220	Yeah, I was just kidding...I still have the stupid luggage rack on the back of my vert. Who the hell ever actually used that stupid thing! __________________ 1992 LX 5.0 Convertible Red/Blk Gears, Exhaust, bolt-ons... R.H.C. #51

11-11-2001, 09:38 PM	#18
Coupe5oh Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SanAntonio, Tx Posts: 734	Unit, blue smoke at 155k? i have 180k, hmmm, maybe mine has been rebuilt in its day? no history of it on carfax, oh well. __________________ Police package 5spd 90 Lx, Stock original motor, 3.27grs, BM fan, fms 10.5 clutch, D&D quadrant, and adjuster, ADS chip, 180 stat, mac cai, mac h-pipe, mac subframe connectors, ASP crank pulley, ripper shifter, 26x10.5 M/T sport pros welds. 246 hp according to analyzer Race weight: 3,120 E.t-13.57 with 26x10.50's e.t. streets. 1.88 60' mph- 99.92 mph

11-11-2001, 10:22 PM	#19
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	Good Lord!!! Blue Smoke Well, you do have a car that had TONS of what were probably highway miles put on. The blue smoke deal was a little joke, but I'm sure it has to smoke a little. It's using some oil now.

11-12-2001, 12:33 AM	#20
Coupe5oh Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SanAntonio, Tx Posts: 734	Thats a good point unit, my car also lived all of its life with an oil cooler, as it still does. __________________ Police package 5spd 90 Lx, Stock original motor, 3.27grs, BM fan, fms 10.5 clutch, D&D quadrant, and adjuster, ADS chip, 180 stat, mac cai, mac h-pipe, mac subframe connectors, ASP crank pulley, ripper shifter, 26x10.5 M/T sport pros welds. 246 hp according to analyzer Race weight: 3,120 E.t-13.57 with 26x10.50's e.t. streets. 1.88 60' mph- 99.92 mph

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